Pokémon (Not-So) Griefing Thread - Scarlet and Violet Released with 10 Million Copies in First 3 Days in Buggy States

[MetokurGroomedMe]

We spend the entire game making friends with everyone else but the one dude that actually really wants to be. It’s a strange choice methinks. As is us suddenly caring about rules. As you say, we just disagree on this. And honestly, story is really good from either viewpoint.

it's more that we make friends with them over time. you spend the entire titan quest making friends with arven, and he warms up to you over time. nemona is always just battle obsessed and excited to groom you into a top tier ace trainer, and penny doesn't reveal who she really is (despite it being obvious) until the end of the entire team star questline. kieran's major dick moments are along the way of his questline, and by the end of it we are his friend, or at least, one day we probably will be.

Penny is pretty great all around. Not giving her a new Eeveelution was a crime.

she had the best theme in the whole game. that song goes fucking crazy.

That’s one thing I like about Gen 7 - Gen 9. The villains by and large are honestly relatable to children and acting as such.

team skull have a great encounter theme, too. it's just some kind of weird vocalizations about team skull.

 

[6MillionCoofs]

I tuned out after Johto but he does look annoying.

He is. I stand by what I thought back then. ‘He should have been Wally’

Max even straight up befriends a Ralts and promises to come back for it when he is an actual trainer.

 

[Caesar]

They ruined this little fella into a Pikachu clone... Never forgive ..

Plusle and Minun are the best pikaclones, they're not trying to pretend they're not and they are cute.

I wish they had slightly better stats though given they don't evolve. I know they're more for support but still.

I need to use one on my team one day.

Edit Morpeko is alright aswell but his gimmick is pretty useless. It's cool that his move changes type when he's in hangry mode, but it's not a great move lol

 

[6MillionCoofs]

Plusle and Minun are the best pikaclones, they're not trying to pretend they're not and they are cute.

No. Mimikyu. Because it realises it isn’t and says ‘fuck it, imma wear Pikachu as a skin’

 

[Caesar]

No. Mimikyu. Because it realises it isn’t and says ‘fuck it, imma wear Pikachu as a skin’

I don't really like Mimikyu. He's not an electric type or a rodent either so I don't fully count him as a pikaclone.

 

[Kari Kamiya]

Max was originally to be a second rival and their younger brother in ORAS

Lmao I can't believe they thought this was a good idea. Least they scrapped it.

 

[anliteralidiot]

Power plant pics found

There's a Mother 3/Earthbound 64 vibe to them...

 

[Caesar]

There's a Mother 3/Earthbound 64 vibe to them...
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Now you say it, true. I think it's mostly the mountain scape though.

 

[Bunny Tracks]

Haxorus has to have the most ridiculous size though, he's literally the height of a 12yo lol.
He's such a mean looking dragon too.

Grimmsnarl is even worse. Its design implies it would tower over things, but instead it's only 4'11.

 

[Caesar]

Grimmsnarl is even worse. Its design implies it would tower over things, but instead it's only 4'11.
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He looks alright in battle at least and he's meant to be humanoid, but yeah, 6ft or so would make a bit more sense wouldn't it




Speaking of sizes, why do substitutes keep getting more ridiculous in size lol.

Grafaiai needs a Grimmsnarl-ish evolution aswell. He looks like he's begging for a third stage like that. I don't think I'd hate him as much either if he was a mid ego

 

[McMitch]

The patrician opinion is that Pokémon are better when they’re child-sizes creatures rather than earth-shattering monsters. Really lends itself towards what is largely a childhood hobby, occasionally taken to its extremes by older enthusiasts, in-universe (which is objectively better than the franchise ended up IRL).

 

[Caesar]

The patrician opinion is that Pokémon are better when they’re child-sizes creatures rather than earth-shattering monsters. Really lends itself towards what is largely a childhood hobby, occasionally taken to its extremes by older enthusiasts, in-universe (which is objectively better than the franchise ended up IRL).

But then you have mons like Charizard and Dragonite who are still some of the most popular, and there's a childhood fantasy there of being able to ride them and fly around. I think being cute is more important than being pint sized to appeal to their market personally.

 

[6MillionCoofs]

The patrician opinion is that Pokémon are better when they’re child-sizes creatures rather than earth-shattering monsters. Really lends itself towards what is largely a childhood hobby, occasionally taken to its extremes by older enthusiasts, in-universe (which is objectively better than the franchise ended up IRL).

I just assume ‘pokemon looks like it should be big’ is all because we are children and think they are huge. Pokemon are actually small but we are smaller.

We do get shrunk at the start of the games…

 

[anliteralidiot]

Now you say it, true. I think it's mostly the mountain scape though.

It's the colors, and the domed buildings, and Creatures Inc. being Ape Inc...

 

[Another Random]

Ok, but in this story some dude went:
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and that is more than enough to sully the family name and give the kid issues.
His mom even abandoned him, pretty rough upbringing.

I really don't wanna defend this too much... but mentioning the kitsune/tanuki thing like I did in the previous post now makes me wonder if the read the writer had in mind was that these Pokémon were in human shape. At that point you're supposed to imagine a mermaid or something, and while that's weird, I don't think 20 years ago there was that much of a stigma against mermaids.

I don't know. This isn't really porn the way people made a fuss about, it's written similar to religious text more than anything, and other than the mountain husband story the other stories are more focused on telling you that you really need to make sure you respect the goddamn rituals if you don't want your family to turn into bulls and trample your dad.

The entire idea they had in mind for Generation 4 was 'our version of the Pokémon world is more on the religious side, with humans and Pokémon and nature coexisting safely, let's make the next villains a capitalist venture led by an autistic fuck who tries to kill the Pokémon that represent emotions because they get in the way of his science boner, until he steals the power over time/space and becomes a living God with his machines, only to lose because he realizes he wanted friends all along and after he loses his Godly powers he fucks off to find himself'. In that context, the entire point of these myths and folklore was to emphasize that Sinnoh in particular was supposed to be more religious, in a nativist sense, and that means having folkloric stories where Pokémon and humans are no different because that's the lesson they wanted to teach. Treat Pokémon kindly or else God gets pissed off, breaks the goddamn planet, and then you have to find a dead bear whose eyes, heart, and mouth you sacrifice to summon three ghosts to save the world.

I'm not sure if Nintendo had to censor this because it was too offensive or because it was too stupid, to be honest.

 

[McMitch]

But then you have mons like Charizard and Dragonite who are still some of the most popular, and there's a childhood fantasy there of being able to ride them and fly around. I think being cute is more important than being pint sized to appeal to their market personally.

Right, but Charizard being 5”07’ great, it’s still a foot taller than a nine-year-old which would have been the target demographic for Pokémon, and the demographic that would historically collect and fight bugs. The idea of adults taking the hobby to an extreme past the practicality of it being a hobby is way more interesting than “fight big animal.”

 

[Caesar]

Right, but Charizard being 5”07’ great, it’s still a foot taller than a nine-year-old which would have been the target demographic for Pokémon, and the demographic that would historically collect and fight bugs. The idea of adults taking the hobby to an extreme past the practicality of it being a hobby is way more interesting than “fight big animal.”

Ashes was 6 ft 6 but yeah. To be honest I'm not fussed on the massive mons outside some legendaries like Rayquaza (Eternetis should be big too but 67ft or whatever he is, is a bit much, lol).

Still though for a fully evolved third stage, 6-6.5ft isn't that crazy I don't think.

 

[McMitch]

Still though for a fully evolved third stage, 6-6.5ft isn't that crazy I don't think.

Nah, most Pokémon should come up to an adult man’s shoulder, tops. They should operate on dog-scale, not elephant-scale.

 

[Caesar]

Nah, most Pokémon should come up to an adult man’s shoulder, tops. They should operate on dog-scale, not elephant-scale.

Yeah that's why I said third stages. Not all of them, but you've likely trained them for like, 30-40 levels most of the game by the time you get there, so it makes decent sense they'd be burly.

I agree your average pokemon should be animal sized.

 

[McMitch]

Yeah that's why I said third stages. Not all of them, but you've likely trained them for like, 30-40 levels most of the game by the time you get there, so it makes decent sense they'd be burly.

I agree your average pokemon should be animal sized.

No, even third stages. Breaching 6 feet should largely be the realm of legendaries. It’s one of the things gen 1 got absolutely right, beyond ‘mons thematically large (Venusaur, Kangaskhan, etc.) or are serpentine; but those should be exceptions rather than the rule.