Pokémon (Not-So) Griefing Thread - Scarlet and Violet Released with 10 Million Copies in First 3 Days in Buggy States

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Kurohige said:
The direct opposite would be guys with designs like Grusha. There's probably a couple artists who had to update their art when they finally knew he was a he. That scarf is doing a lot of work, look at the guy's lips!
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Still one of the funniest things to happen in the fandom ngl :story:
 
zyclonPD said:
Its possible the Pokémon company is trying to preempt social media backlash by incorporating the changes seen since Sun&Moon, no longer a primarily white cast, female rival, female elite four champion, large percentage of fat characters, ganes getting easier, body type 1&2 as opposed to the traditional boy & girl.
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Nigga we have had female elite 4 champions since diamond and pearl and if you count black 2 white 2 we have had a total of four female champions.

Edit: the B2W2 champion is a brown girl, fitting for the north america region.

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Niantic has been monetizing the game far more aggressively for the past few months and people are not happy, even more if you consider the stupid limitations put to remote raid passes ,which were bringing in a lot of money since 9 to 5 wagies can't leave the office in the middle of the day to sit around 15 mins waiting for people to show up and another 5 to wait in the lobby and kill the boss. They also increased the prices of bundles in the store (said bundles had premium items like incubators or raid passes, they were often a decent deals).

All of that contributed to decreased revenue which is honestly hilarious, they were doing well and some dumbass suggested focusing on tickets and increasing their output. Said tickets can only be bought once, have mediocre rewards and nowadays they expire after the event is over, most people don't find them worth it.
 
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Noxe said:
Pokemon Clover exists LOL
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To try and bring this topic from going into further discussion about waifus and which is woke or not(the inevitability of every Pokemon discussion), I'm curious if it's actually good. You see a lot of discussion about it on /vp/, but they're not exactly well known for their tastes. Since this is the memey imageboard romhacks, it could just be that people recommend it out of the "obligation" that you play it if you visit 4 or 8chan.
Since I'm going on something of a ride with Pokemon romhacks right now, do sell me on this one if anyone here played it. I know very little about it.
 
30+GameOvers said:
To try and bring this topic from going into further discussion about waifus and which is woke or not(the inevitability of every Pokemon discussion), I'm curious if it's actually good. You see a lot of discussion about it on /vp/, but they're not exactly well known for their tastes. Since this is the memey imageboard romhacks, it could just be that people recommend it out of the "obligation" that you play it if you visit 4 or 8chan.
Since I'm going on something of a ride with Pokemon romhacks right now, do sell me on this one if anyone here played it. I know very little about it.
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I haven't played many romhacks but this one stands out to me as the only one I've played that has a completely unique dex of mons. This is probably what will make or break the hack for you since they're all very reliant on 4chan related memes and culture but it worked out more than enough to build a team I liked. The region follows a similar progression in areas and gyms as the original Kanto and there is even a neat postgame with some legendaries where the act of tracking them down feels remarkably similar to how you'd do it in the old entries.
Not counting any self imposed reules I think this hack is moderatly demanding, most of the difficulty will come from not knowing what types the mons are (sometimes it will really not be obvious outside of gym leaders), their stats and what moves they use.
Its overall a deceptively competent hack I'd say and I definitely recommend it, just for the effort and creativity alone.
 
Sneak 'n' Snore said:
I haven't played many romhacks but this one stands out to me as the only one I've played that has a completely unique dex of mons. This is probably what will make or break the hack for you since they're all very reliant on 4chan related memes and culture but it worked out more than enough to build a team I liked. The region follows a similar progression in areas and gyms as the original Kanto and there is even a neat postgame with some legendaries where the act of tracking them down feels remarkably similar to how you'd do it in the old entries.
Not counting any self imposed reules I think this hack is moderatly demanding, most of the difficulty will come from not knowing what types the mons are (sometimes it will really not be obvious outside of gym leaders), their stats and what moves they use.
Its overall a deceptively competent hack I'd say and I definitely recommend it, just for the effort and creativity alone.
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What are some features the romhack has? Is there a battling facility like Battle Tower? Is the story overdosed on maymays to the point I will cringe?
Right now I want to play at least one Romhack of every mainline game up to Gen 7, but this might be something fun to play at a later date.
 
30+GameOvers said:
What are some features the romhack has? Is there a battling facility like Battle Tower? Is the story overdosed on maymays to the point I will cringe?
Right now I want to play at least one Romhack of every mainline game up to Gen 7, but this might be something fun to play at a later date.
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There is very little story and some of it is very dated like this semi reocurring character who I think is supposed to reference Know Your Meme.
Most of the features are quality of life stuff like infinite TMs and I think HMs were either optional or easier to unlearn. I don't remember there being a battle tower but there is an incredibly high leveled super boss in the postgame.

Edit: Might be worth mentioning that I played one of the earlier releases a couple years ago and they've occasionally updated it since but I haven't revisited it fully since my original playthrough.
 
I am aware there were changes and "censorship" through the years but Lenora's is one of the lesser known changes (and for some reason one I find somewhat amusing).

After the release of Pokémon Black and White, Lenora's artwork on the official website for the games was updated to have her apron slung over her shoulder. Also, in the dubbed versions of A Night at the Nacrene City Museum!, The Battle According to Lenora! and Rematch at the Nacrene Gym!, Lenora's apron was removed completely. This was due to concerns that she resembled the Mammy archetype
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When I was younger I thought the apron was due to her being a housewife, latter I found out she is an archeologist so I thought the apron must be because she's cleaning fossils. Recently read a snippet of an interview with one of the designers saying he wanted her to give out a motherly vibe and honestly I don't know what to think anymore.
Come think of it, there are very few gym leaders and E4 members who are mothers, think the only other one is the ice gym leader from shwsh
 
It should be noted that this was also the first race mixed couple in Pokemon, since she has a white husband. She was also the first legit girlboss in the franchise, as for the short time you meet her the game establishes that she wears the pants(or the apron) in the family.
Yeah, Gamefreak was really confused as to what the Westerners really wanted and you can tell they didn't really know what they were doing. They still don't, you can tell that they don't have the heart in following the new ESG guidelines and making everyone look ugly, they're just doing it because their superiors are telling them this is what Americans want. Nilantic have recently pozzed up Pokemon GO, but since they're from San Francisco this sort of thing is more natural to them.

For better or for worse, Gen 5 was the last time that Gamefreak put any sort of soul into the franchise. Gen 6 had that too to a degree, you could tell they had grand plans for their first 3D entry, but they tried backpedaling way too hard after the Gen 5 controversy by pandering to Kanto fans and their tech was simply not up to snuff. They couldn't do everything they wanted, awful performance during normal play and especially triple battles is the best example of their lack of optimization.
Gen 7 was a special case, I think it worked but you could tell that a different approach was taken. The good, and the bad, came from that new approach as you could still see the same atrophy that set in during Gen 6 if you looked deep enough. As of Gen 8, and now Gen 9, the decay is unquestionable. I wish Pokemon would go back to stupid controversies like this one with Lenora, rather than the likes of Dexit or the 70$ DLCs or the recent ugly trainers and DEI. At least back then, Gamefreak genuinely wanted to make a better product, even if they did stupid shit to get there, these days they can't even pretend to care.
 
30+GameOvers said:
It should be noted that this was also the first race mixed couple in Pokemon, since she has a white husband. She was also the first legit girlboss in the franchise, as for the short time you meet her the game establishes that she wears the pants(or the apron) in the family.
Yeah, Gamefreak was really confused as to what the Westerners really wanted and you can tell they didn't really know what they were doing. They still don't, you can tell that they don't have the heart in following the new ESG guidelines and making everyone look ugly, they're just doing it because their superiors are telling them this is what Americans want. Nilantic have recently pozzed up Pokemon GO, but since they're from San Francisco this sort of thing is more natural to them.

For better or for worse, Gen 5 was the last time that Gamefreak put any sort of soul into the franchise. Gen 6 had that too to a degree, you could tell they had grand plans for their first 3D entry, but they tried backpedaling way too hard after the Gen 5 controversy by pandering to Kanto fans and their tech was simply not up to snuff. They couldn't do everything they wanted, awful performance during normal play and especially triple battles is the best example of their lack of optimization.
Gen 7 was a special case, I think it worked but you could tell that a different approach was taken. The good, and the bad, came from that new approach as you could still see the same atrophy that set in during Gen 6 if you looked deep enough. As of Gen 8, and now Gen 9, the decay is unquestionable. I wish Pokemon would go back to stupid controversies like this one with Lenora, rather than the likes of Dexit or the 70$ DLCs or the recent ugly trainers and DEI. At least back then, Gamefreak genuinely wanted to make a better product, even if they did stupid shit to get there, these days they can't even pretend to care.
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Honestly I think they’ll be a few more gens before the people making the games find their grove again.

As I’ve said. You can tell they actually liked Legends and had a direction that would have worked with SV if not for the performance issues. I think if they can stop those from happening things will be.
 
6MillionCoofs said:
Honestly I think they’ll be a few more gens before the people making the games find their grove again.

As I’ve said. You can tell they actually liked Legends and had a direction that would have worked with SV if not for the performance issues. I think if they can stop those from happening things will be.
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Also since the next will be release next year they might have more time for it.

I think some of SV problems where also that it and LA where both made together at the same time that why some stuffs from LA where not carried over to SV (like shiny sparkles , frostbite and the PokeBall capture mechanic) since there trying to experiments some stuffs on both games.
 
30+GameOvers said:
To try and bring this topic from going into further discussion about waifus and which is woke or not(the inevitability of every Pokemon discussion), I'm curious if it's actually good. You see a lot of discussion about it on /vp/, but they're not exactly well known for their tastes. Since this is the memey imageboard romhacks, it could just be that people recommend it out of the "obligation" that you play it if you visit 4 or 8chan.
Since I'm going on something of a ride with Pokemon romhacks right now, do sell me on this one if anyone here played it. I know very little about it.
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It's really good imo. Not Kaizo level bullshit but you do actually have to have some kind of strategy. Like towards the end of the game and the post game you'll need semi comp / comp build pokemon.

It's got the obvious 4chan humor and stuff but there's a lot of soul in it. Idk what kind of stuff you like in a rom. My favorite is just collecting the nice fakemon. Alot of people do think it's probably one of the best romhacks just gameplay wise.
 
Noxe said:
It's got the obvious 4chan humor and stuff but there's a lot of soul in it. Idk what kind of stuff you like in a rom. My favorite is just collecting the nice fakemon. Alot of people do think it's probably one of the best romhacks just gameplay wise.
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I like competitive in Pokemon because it gives you a purpose to breed/train/collect Pokemon long after the main story. Pokemon single player was always underwhelming and too easy, it rarely even plays with the new gameplay mechanics introduced(how many double battles were there in Ruby/Sapphire again?). Once you're done with the game, that's when you put your skills to the test in either Battle Facilities or online. Kinda feels pointless to collect more Pokemon if there is nothing to do with them, that's one reason why I just don't enjoy first two gens as much(In FR/LG you can send the Pokemon you train to other games and HG/SS has a Battle Frontier so it fixes that problem. Crystal's Battle Tower is ass so I don't count it). Then again, if the game really does require a modicum of skill to play thru it, I guess that adds at least some nuance to the training and collection part of the game. It's one thing to use the most powerful Pokemon available, it's another(and often more fun) to try out less used ones and try to make them work. If I can create an interesting party and play around with the game's mechanics instead of just blindly pressing the "Super Effective" button all game like I do in most mainline single player campaigns, that would be great.
 
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30+GameOvers said:
(how many double battles were there in Ruby/Sapphire again?).
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So few that people are surprised when you have to double battle the twins and realise that their single player team is not prepped for it and get smashed.

I think less than 10 that you have to bother with.

(Bulbapedia never has the real important info on it lol)

I should know an exact number in a few days. Doing a run through.
 
@30+GameOvers
Honestly, I neve realy noticed the Africans in PLA... though you mentioning them... oh...

I get Unova, since the USA got he slave trade.
I get Kalos, since France got an influx of Arabs and took over a lot of Africa.
I get Alola, since Hawai'i was once Polynesian country.
I get Galar, sinc England got links to India, South Africa... and a lot of Africa, honestly.
I get Paldea, sinc Españ̃a got not only invaded by the Moors but also has a very strong Latino influence, which also got he slave trade.

...but Hisui and Sinnoh, based on Hokkaido, especially ancient Hokkaido..?
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That is not right.

On Penny being trans, that is mainly the Tumblr hair, the being targetted of bullying, and the traits that appear autistic. TVTropes also claim Eevee being popular with trannies, Sylveon having tranny colours, Penny being a shy computer geek (a field filled with trannies) and Penny's baggy clothes being relatable to trannies who do not feel commfortable showing their natural bodies. Honestly, all of those are big reaches to me.
 
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