Pokémon (Not-So) Griefing Thread - Scarlet and Violet Released with 10 Million Copies in First 3 Days in Buggy States

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Both sides are a bunch of retards. Thinking pokemon going woke or it's always woke is retarded . Like calling SV woke because of the NPC designs is stupid it just that the game 3D human models are just ugly not woke it's just ugly.
Yeah. And thing is I do not think it’s even ugly designs. Just Pokemon 3D moddeling does not work. I swear to god if you took the SV designs and put them into 2D they’d work great.
 
Yeah. And thing is I do not think it’s even ugly designs. Just Pokemon 3D moddeling does not work. I swear to god if you took the SV designs and put them into 2D they’d work great.
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Some dude posted this just to get clown for his 🗿. Had he posted about just how fucking ugly some of these designs are, he likely would've opened a door and moved the window for people.

However, he didn't, so he just looks like a retard, even to people who might laugh at the funny captions.
 
SV had pretty shitty character designs overall.
SV HAS and always will have shitty everything. At best it will always be a barely functional tech demo that makes the older launch titles that were borderline beta content advertising a third release(finished product) look respectable. The shitty character designs that some clowns are somehow defending is just the cherry on top.
 
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Some dude posted this just to get clown for his :politisperg:. Had he posted about just how fucking ugly some of these designs are, he likely would've opened a door and moved the window for people.

However, he didn't, so he just looks like a retard, even to people who might laugh at the funny captions.
The image still suckass.
The protagonist design still have subtle changes like the chest area they just fucking suckass now but there still difference.
Fucking safe horny who fucking coined that for pokemon designs of all things they don't make any design outright horny or even marketed them as horny at all they still market it towards children also that's a hiker npc not a swimmer npc.
Penny is outright female it just anime not woke shit.
Weightress is funny but there already fat female characters in pokemon like https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Baker_(Trainer_class).
That's not a hijab that's a hoodie.
Old lady.
Even older lady not a fucking troon.
There not black or even asian to begin with there from paldea there called paldean (also if there from other region they will be called like kantonian , kalosian, etc).
Again paldean they don't called them black , white , asian or other shit they just called them on what region they came from.
 
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Lord help me, I'm actually going to watch that Mageknight White playthru. My curiosity got the best of me, I have to see how autistic this is going to be.
It's so much better when you remember that he's voicing both characters(poorly), if the plot twist in the final episode is that Hilda goes full schizo and gets admitted into an asylum, babbling about the voice in her head, I will commend this sperg.
 
The image still suckass.
The protagonist design still have subtle changes like the chest area they just fucking suckass now but there still difference.
Fucking safe horny who fucking coined that for pokemon designs of all things they don't make any design outright horny or even marketed them as horny at all they still market it towards children also that's a hiker npc not a swimmer npc.
Penny is outright female it just anime not woke shit.
Weightress is funny but there already fat female characters in pokemon like https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Baker_(Trainer_class).
That's not a hijab that's a hoodie.
Old lady.
Even older lady not a fucking troon.
There not black or even asian to begin with there from paldea there called paldean (also if there from other region they will be called like kantonian , kalosian, etc).
Again paldean they don't called them black , white , asian or other shit they just called them on what region they came from.
I'd like you to define "woke" and what you feel is the tipping point between bad character types and fully going over the ledge into insanity.
Giving you perspective might be preferable.
 
So, I'm ready to do my write up about Pokemon Gale of Darkness ROMhack known as Pokemon XG: NeXt Gen. First of all, here are a few posts to refer to while reading this one:
An addendum since I completed Mt. Battle:

*Game has a post game quest hidden behind doing at least one round of Orre Colosseum. In Gale of Darkness, that quest gave you a Lucky Egg, here it gives you TM21: Zen Headbutt. I needed it for my Metang, who was still running Psychic at the time.
*Battles here use 6 Pokemon rather than 4 and you can set the format to be Singles or Doubles(Doubles only in Gale of Darkness, no difference to Pokemon sets you just select which format you like)
*Teams seem to be based off which Pokemon the NPCs had in Single Player, which are all changed compared to Gale of Darkness. Other than that, the AI is smarter than in the base game and uses the Stadium/Battle Spot/Battle Tower ruleset with no usable items like Potions, just like in Gale of Darkness

I didn't actually complete even one full set of Orre Colosseum as my Pokemon aren't evenly leveled, and the closest I had to being all the same level(the game doesn't auto level you like in later gens) had an unfortunate lack of effectiveness and synergy against the trainers I had to fight.
It's clear that this is going to take some time and I will need a proper team to tackle a competitive facility, so I am leaving this part of the game for later. Thankfully, I didn't need TM21 as I found something else:

*Mt. Battle is a bit different here than it is in Grand Colosseum: In that game, the first 6 Areas were pure EV training grounds, where the enemy Pokemon could not attack. This would also net you a ton of EXP at the cost of not earning any money. The last 3 areas were the toughest fights in the game, including Legendary Pokemon.
*In XG, Areas 1-9 are pseudo Gyms: Every 5 trainers have the same type specialization, with the final one having a full set of 6 Pokemon like a Gym Leader would(10 trainers per Area means two full type "Gyms" per Area). This goes on until Area 10, which has the toughest 10 battles in the game with Legendary Pokemon. EV training in XG is fulfilled in Pyrite City's Duel Square, while in Grand Colosseum the Colosseum challenges themselves act as "Gyms" with specialized typing, with later Colosseums having two type trainers.
*While Pokemon in XG Mt. Battle always fight back, they start out really weak at Lv 20, with every Area increasing the number by 5(Up to 60 in Area 9 and jumping to Lv 70 in Area 10). This means that this is a viable training ground since the early portions of the game, especially since...
*...Mt. Battle has a Move Relearner that teaches any move that a Pokemon can learn, including ones that it is not leveled enough to know yet(like in later games). I didn't know about this as this NPC only teaches Mew moves exclusively in Gale of Darkness. This is a very useful utility that you will want as soon as you can, and I did indeed teach Metang a different Physical Psychic move(Psycho Cut) over Zen Headbutt via TM. This is why I decided to abandon Orre Colosseum until I can get a more professional team together.

Move Relearner only uses the unique currency Mt. Battle has(basically this game's BP), but he takes so little of it per move that once you get thru the first 10 trainers(one Area) then you're set for the entire game. This is why you should not do what I did and ignore Mt. Battle until the end, it should be an integral part of your playthru if you play along.
Speaking of which, I completed the first run of Mt. battle 100 battle challenge in one sitting and with one team of Pokemon, which nets me one of the three Mythical Pokemon(Mew/Celebi/Jiraichi). The enemy teams remain static, unlike in Battle Tower where they are randomized, so I have to do this 2 more times, with two different teams of Pokemon to give them unique Ribbons, in order to "finish" the game completely(minus Orre Colosseum that I am saving for later).
In case anyone is curious, the run took me 9 hours with breaks(but the game was on the whole time), and I was able to get past even the last Area filled with Legendary Pokemon without a single loss, with most of my Pokemon being slightly underlevelled. That team was: Sharpedo, Lanturn, Cloyster, Mr. Mime, Arcanine and Metang(see my .txt document in the first post for more info) if you're curious about what kind of team building is required. As you can see you don't need a Smogon team of supermen here, altho I should add I did sweat a little during the last few battles. I used far fewer healing items than I was planning to(which you should pack just in case, obviously), but your mileage may vary depending on which team you bring in.

And with that I am actually (almost) done with the game. I have to repeat the challenge twice more technically, which will take at least 18 more hours(plus grinding) but since the trainers won't change there it will be less eventful than it was now, almost an excuse to play the GC era games a little bit longer before I jump to the GBA era titles. I hope my posts were able to properly summarize my experience and help (You) decide if this is a ROMhack that's worth your time. If you're going to take anything from this post specifically, it's that you shouldn't be a dumbass like me and ignore Mt. Battle until the end, trust me. Would have saved a whole lot of trouble if I knew I could teach Metang a Physical STAB Psychic move half a game ago.

Edit: I can still make changes to this post, for whatever reason, so I'm going to include a screenshot I forgot to attach when I was going thru the Mt. Battle challenge. This was pretty cute when it happened.
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I'd like you to define "woke" and what you feel is the tipping point between bad character types and fully going over the ledge into insanity.
Giving you perspective might be preferable.
I defines "woke" as doing shit like "the first openly gay trans black non-binary character of the series" and it's the most retarded and most stereotypical shit ever made by a "open-minded woke person" and also villainized anybody who think this shit is stupid as fuck. That's one of my points of what "woke" is.
 
I am really honestly annoyed at the trans people for taking the classic genius super hacker in charge of a gang is in actuallity the most cute and girly person ever trope and insisting that must mean they are non binary. For some reason. Despite the fact them being binary and very much a girl is the point

Heck if anything Penny should be nothing but binary. Because she is hacker..,

Thank god Pokemon lacks voices. You know the obvious male filter that should be applied when using her hacker persona would make things 1000 times worse.
 
I defines "woke" as doing shit like "the first openly gay trans black non-binary character of the series" and it's the most retarded and most stereotypical shit ever made by a "open-minded woke person" and also villainized anybody who think this shit is stupid as fuck. That's one of my points of what "woke" is.
So there's no in between period of adopting these trends incrementally? Its either 0 or 100?
 
So there's no in between period of adopting these trends incrementally? Its either 0 or 100?
I’d say yes. Otherwise you’ll just look at anything diverse as woke.
Which is how you get all the screaming by people if stuff so much as has a female in it.

And considering Pokemon is translated into English, it’s source material is unlikely to ever turn woke.

There’s not going to be a gradual change it’s just going to be forced and only on one side.
 
And considering Pokemon is translated into English, it’s source material is unlikely to ever turn woke.

There’s not going to be a gradual change it’s just going to be forced and only on one side.
Correct, which is why SV is woke at it's core(and broke, too). Now Nintendo is hiring DEI consultants for Pokemon and we have ugly models for everybody. Japanese hate it, but the devs don't care because it will sell on the name lone. This is just what the franchise is now.
I don't know why this is a huge revelation to some people, Gen 8 was a disaster. They even had niggers in what was supposed to be Ancient Japanese setting, like they're pushing with other games like this now. Sword/Shield was nigger central and so was Gen 7, but nobody cared about that since the region was based of Hawaii. XY, on the other hand, was arguably even worse than Sword/Shield and that released 10 years ago, how ORAS came out unmolested is beyond me(oh yeah the Gen 4 remake added in niggers and censored some lines too, but that game was so shit that I barely even remember it).
Ugly models and troons are just the cherry on top, now you're not going to be called a waaaacist for calling this stuff out because it effects everybody's experience.

I am really honestly annoyed at the trans people for taking the classic genius super hacker in charge of a gang is in actuallity the most cute and girly person ever trope and insisting that must mean they are non binary. For some reason. Despite the fact them being binary and very much a girl is the point

Heck if anything Penny should be nothing but binary. Because she is hacker..,

Thank god Pokemon lacks voices. You know the obvious male filter that should be applied when using her hacker persona would make things 1000 times worse.
What in the hell are you even talking about? I haven't heard anyone calling Penny a troon, altho I have heard plenty of people calling that entire plotline falling flat and gameplay being shit. Because it is, Team Star is the sorriest excuse for an evil team I have ever seen and the plot twist that "they're not actually bad!" is like the third time in the row Gamefreak used it, if you count Team Skull. The idea of an entire group of "bullied, exiled" students is retarded too, not only would this paint the school as a horrific place to go to but it doesn't even make any sense, why not simply quit at that point? Gamefreak tried too hard to come up with something that would shock the players and only managed to create the worst part of what is already a shit game with almost no redeemable parts. Even their music and "boss fights" suck, the game would have been better off cutting out that entire portion, Penny included, completely and focusing on basic bug polishing instead.
 
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I was refering to the image I quoted with Penny as they/them and commenting how I’ve seen a lot of the community try to spin her as non binary or trans and I hate it.

As for why no one cared earlier. Probably because it’s a Pokemon game and people don’t care if it’s 100% accurate to the real world and the games weren’t so obviously broke. Like people don’t care how woke something is till the games become noticeably unplayable for entirely unrelated reasons.
 
Like people don’t care how woke something is till the games become noticeably unplayable for entirely unrelated reasons.
Correct, this is why Sword/Shield did not get nearly as much pushback as Scarlet/Violet despite the two being almost as bad. Don't forget, Sword/Shield were the ones to introduce not only Dexit but also paid DLC, and yet most fans didn't care that much. I'm not going to even mention how BLACKED that region was for no reason, which it was(altho that did lead to a pretty funny controversy with Nessa that still gets /vp/ upset to this day).
Funny how much you can get away with if you simply make the characters pretty, that way instead of complaining the fans can make art/porn all season long and engage with the big money machine that is the Pokemon merch empire(that's on top of the money they skim off the games). What kind of fanart can you make in a game where half the NPCs are either non-white, ugly or troons? Hell the main characters are exactly the same with some minor differences since gender doesn't exist anymore(never mind that it quite literally does in Pokemon themselves, making this pandering moot). Remember Dawn/Lucas? May/Brendan? Pretty much every protagonist even up to Gen 8 was visually distinct and instantly recognizable, we can't even have that anymore. Of course, I'm not even getting into the technical problems Scarlet/Violet have that even normalfags can't ignore, we would be here all day.
If you've already forgotten how bad Sword/Shield was even outside it's controversies, here is a 4 hour refresher(that could go on even longer since he didn't cover the cashgrab DLC outside a quick glance). This is how most actual fans reacted to the game, but were drowned out by the sea of retards, shills and coomers.
 
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Don't forget, Sword/Shield were the ones to introduce not only Dexit but also paid DLC, and yet most fans didn't care that much.
I mean most people play with new mons and 3rd games were for all intense and purpose DLC. It makes sense why most people did not care, not even the majority of Pokemon fans. Problem with the DLC is unlike 3rd Games it did not fix the bugs or make it broken in a way that people found actually fun. It did nothing.
I'm not going to even mention how BLACKED that region was for no reason,
It’s the UK. It being blacked was not the issue. Issue is it was the wrong type of black people.

But doing the UK right would have required the ‘evil team’ to have been involved with heavy gang violence. If there was one game where you bring back having two teams like in RSE it was SwSh
which it was(altho that did lead to a pretty funny controversy with Nessa that still gets /vp/ upset to this day).
Indeed lol
Funny how much you can get away with if you simply make the characters pretty, that way instead of complaining the fans can make art/porn all season long and engage with the big money machine that is the Pokemon merch empire(that's on top of the money they skim off the games).
I blame Gardevoir.
What kind of fanart can you make in a game where half the NPCs are either non-white, ugly or troons?
Enough. And it’s horrifying. The R34 remains strong.
Of course, I'm not even getting into the technical problems Scarlet/Violet have that even normalfags can't ignore, we would be here all day.
Most of those issues would vanish if the Switch was allowed to overclock which is amusing.
 
I mean most people play with new mons and 3rd games were for all intense and purpose DLC. It makes sense why most people did not care, not even the majority of Pokemon fans. Problem with the DLC is unlike 3rd Games it did not fix the bugs or make it broken in a way that people found actually fun. It did nothing.
Third versions offered genuine new content that made it a worthy purchase for hardcore fans even if they owned the originals. It is very clear that DLC for both games is quite literally just post game content cut out at the last minute to be sold for extra 70$, not third version equivalent. Just look how pathetic the post game for both is. DLC simply does not belong in a Pokemon game, it's bad enough that many Mons are locked behind buying another game or trading with another person, not even getting into the rabbithole of getting legendary or event Pokemon legit way. That's plenty enough time, resources and in some cases money, to balance that out. Everything the game has to offer should be there on day one and be free(minus seasonal events or what have you).

But doing the UK right would have required the ‘evil team’ to have been involved with heavy gang violence. If there was one game where you bring back having two teams like in RSE it was SwSh
Funny thing is that Team Yell was probably one of the best things about the game. Their music is badass, I like how they look, and they do that thing that Team Skull did where they're goofy and not all that intimidating despite being an actual gang. I don't mind them, altho you could also easily take them out of the game entirely and not lose out on much. Scarlet/Violet would greatly benefit from simply scrapping Team Star and focusing on whatever the hell the main theme of that game was.
 
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