Pokémon (Not-So) Griefing Thread - Scarlet and Violet Released with 10 Million Copies in First 3 Days in Buggy States

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And we now have stats, typings, and Hidden Abilities (if they have 'em, of course) for the new Pokémon thanks to an unknown source that may be from the same Discord groups that leaked stuff relating to base SV before release and some stuff will be covered again for completeness's sake. Like all “leaks” take 'em with a grain of salt since these could not only be fake but, if the initial stats for the Treasures of Ruin are any indication, could be altered before release.
Normal/Steel
Ability: Mind's Eye/Bulletproof/(Intimidate)
HP: 135/ATK: 145/DEF: 110/SP.ATK: 20/SP.DEF: 85/SPE: 55 (550 BST)
1. Blood Moon
1. Covet
1. Headlong Rush
1. Leer
1. Lick
1. Moonlight
1. Scratch
8. Metal Claw
13. Payback
17. Roar
22. Slash
25. Noble Roar
29. Play Rough
35. Scary Face
41. Rest
41. Snore
48. High Horsepower
56. Thrash
64. Hammer Arm

Blood Moon is basically a Normal-Type Gigaton Hammer in terms of base power and effect but I’m also hearing that its Type also changes when Ursaluna is Terastallized.

TM001. Take Down
TM006. Scary Face
TM007. Protect
TM012. Low Kick
TM018. Thief
TM020. Trailblaze
TM025. Facade
TM027. Aerial Ace
TM028. Bulldoze
TM030. Snarl
TM031. Metal Claw
TM032. Swift
TM036. Rock Tomb
TM043. Fling
TM046. Avalanche
TM047. Endure
TM049. Sunny Day
TM050. Rain Dance
TM051. Sandstorm
TM053. Smart Strike
TM055. Dig
TM058. Brick Break
TM061. Shadow Claw
TM064. Bulk Up
TM066. Body Slam
TM067. Fire Punch
TM068. Thunder Punch
TM069. Ice Punch
TM070. Sleep Talk
TM071. Seed Bomb
TM073. Drain Punch
TM080. Metronome
TM084. Stomping Tantrum
TM085. Rest
TM086. Rock Slide
TM087. Taunt
TM088. Swords Dance
TM089. Body Press
TM094. Dark Pulse
TM099. Iron Head
TM102. Gunk Shot
TM103. Substitute
TM104. Iron Defense
TM108. Crunch
TM116. Stealth Rock
TM117. Hyper Voice
TM121. Heavy Slam
TM127. Play Rough
TM130. Helping Hand
TM133. Earth Power
TM134. Reversal
TM147. Wild Charge
TM149. Earthquake
TM150. Stone Edge
TM152. Giga Impact
TM163. Hyper Beam
TM167. Close Combat
TM170. Steel Beam
TM171. Tera Blast

Oh, and in addition to this I'm hearing that Blood Moon Ursaluna is similar to Ash-Greninja as far as getting it goes. That means you're restricted to one per save file. This is coming from Centro so take it with an extra grain of salt.
Grass/Dragon
Ability: Supersweet Syrup/Gluttony/(Gooey)
HP: 90/ATK: 95/DEF: 80/SP.ATK: 95/SP.DEF: 70/SPE: 55 (485 BST)

1. Astonish
1. Growth
1. Recycle
1. Sweet Scent
1. Twister
4. Acid Spray
8. Sticky Web
12. Leech Seed
16. Protect
20. Coil
24. Syrup Bomb
28. Clear Smog
32. Gunk Shot
36. Acid Armor
40. Dragon Tail
44. Grass Knot

TM001. Take Down
TM007. Protect
TM013. Acid Spray
TM015. Struggle Bug
TM020. Trailblaze
TM021. Pounce
TM025. Facade
TM026. Poison Tail
TM033. Magical Leaf
TM044. Dragon Tail
TM045. Venoshock
TM047. Endure
TM049. Sunny Day
TM050. Rain Dance
TM056. Bullet Seed
TM060. U-Turn
TM070. Sleep Talk
TM071. Seed Bomb
TM081. Grass Knot
TM085. Rest
TM095. Leech Life
TM102. Gunk Shot
TM103. Substitute
TM111. Giga Drain
TM115. Dragon Pulse
TM119. Energy Ball
TM121. Heavy Slam
TM130. Helping Hand
TM131. Pollen Puff
TM137. Grassy Terrain
TM148. Slude Bomb
TM152. Giga Impact
TM156. Outrage
TM159. Leaf Storm
TM163. Hyper Beam
TM168. Solar Beam
TM169. Draco Meteor
TM171. Tera Blast

EGG: Defense Curl
EGG: Recycle
EGG: Rollout
EGG: Sucker Punch
Grass/Ghost
Ability: Hospitality/Hospitality/(Weak Armor [Unremarkable form])/(Shell Armor [Masterpiece form])
HP: 40/ATK: 45/DEF: 55/SP.ATK: 74/SP.DEF: 54/SPE: 50 (318 BST)

1. Astonish
1. Withdraw
6. Aromatic Mist
12. Mega Drain
24. Sucker Punch
30. Sweet Scent
36. Giga Drain
42. Nasty Plot
48. Shadow Ball
54. Memento
60. Shell Smash

TM007. Protect
TM013. Acid Spray
TM016. Psybeam
TM017. Confuse Ray
TM025. Facade
TM029. Hex
TM033. Magical Leaf
TM041. Stored Power
TM042. Night Shade
TM047. Endure
TM054. Psyshock
TM062. Foul Play
TM070. Sleep Talk
TM080. Metronome
TM085. Rest
TM092. Imprison
TM094. Dark Pulse
TM098. Skill Swap
TM103. Substitute
TM107. Will-O-Wisp
TM109. Trick
TM111. Giga Drain
TM114. Shadow Ball
TM120. Psychic
TM129. Calm Mind
TM131. Pollen Puff
TM132. Baton Pass
TM140. Nasty Plot
TM151. Phantom Force
TM161. Trick Room
TM171. Tera Blast

EGG: Ally Switch
EGG: Scald
EGG: Sticky Web

In a somewhat-funny situation both Polchageist and Sinestcha have different Hidden Abilities depending on if it in its Unremarkable or Masterpiece Formes, something that the Polteageist line lacks.
Grass/Ghost
Ability: Hospitality/Hospitality/(Weak Armor [Unremarkable form])/(Shell Armor [Masterpiece form])
HP: 60/ATK: 65/DEF: 65/SP.ATK: 134/SP.DEF: 114/SPE: 70 (508 BST)

EVO. Teatime
1. Aromatic Mist
1. Astonish
1. Mega Drain
1. Strength Sap
1. Withdraw
18. Protect
24. Sucker Punch
30. Sweet Scent
36. Matcha Gotcha
42. Nasty Plot
48. Shadow Ball
54. Memento
60. Shell Smash
66. Curse
72. Happy Hour [Unremarkable form]
72. Celebrate [Masterpiece form]

Matcha Gotcha is basically a superior version of Giga Drain thanks to the addition of an added chance of burning the target. This is also the first time Happy Hour and Celebrate have been available outside of events and Sketch shenanigans so money farming is going to get a lot easier come the 13th. Don't ask me why Masterpiece Forme even learns Celebrate when it's completely useless, even I'm confused by it.

TM007. Protect
TM013. Acid Spray
TM016. Psybeam
TM017. Confuse Ray
TM025. Facade
TM029. Hex
TM033. Magical Leaf
TM041. Stored Power
TM042. Night Shade
TM047. Endure
TM054. Psyshock
TM062. Foul Play
TM070. Sleep Talk
TM074. Reflect
TM075. Light Screen
TM080. Metronome
TM085. Rest
TM092. Imprison
TM094. Dark Pulse
TM098. Skill Swap
TM103. Substitute
TM107. Will-O-Wisp
TM109. Trick
TM111. Giga Drain
TM114. Shadow Ball
TM120. Psychic
TM129. Calm Mind
TM131. Pollen Puff
TM132. Baton Pass
TM137. Grassy Terrain
TM139. Misty Terrain
TM140. Nasty Plot
TM148. Slude Bomb
TM151. Phantom Force
TM152. Giga Impact
TM161. Trick Room
TM171. Tera Blast

EGG: Ally Switch
EGG: Scald
EGG: Sticky Web
Poison/Fighting
Ability: Toxic Chain/Toxic Chain/(Guts)
HP: 107/ATK: 131/DEF: 95/SP.ATK: 73/SP.DEF: 95/SPE: 99 (600 BST)

1. Feint
1. Poison Fang
1. Taunt
9. Rock Smash
13. Acid
17. Fake Out
21. Arm Thrust
25. Roar
29. Bulk Up
33. Poison Jab
37. Knock Off
41. Drain Punch
45. Parting Shot
49. Dire Claw
54. Superpower
58. Giga Impact

TM001. Take Down
TM004. Agility
TM006. Scary Face
TM007. Protect
TM008. Fire Fang
TM009. Thunder Fang
TM010. Ice Fang
TM012. Low Kick
TM013. Acid Spray
TM014: Acrobatics
TM018. Thief
TM020. Trailblaze
TM021. Pounce
TM025. Facade
TM028. Bulldoze
TM030. Snarl
TM031. Metal Claw
TM032. Swift
TM038. Flame Charge
TM039. Low Sweep
TM043. Fling
TM044. Dragon Tail
TM047. Endure
TM055. Dig
TM057. False Swipe
TM058. Brick Break
TM060. U-Turn
TM061. Shadow Claw
TM062. Foul Play
TM063. Psychic Fangs
TM064. Bulk Up
TM066. Body Slam
TM067. Fire Punch
TM068. Thunder Punch
TM069. Ice Punch
TM070. Sleep Talk
TM073. Drain Punch
TM078. Dragon Claw
TM080. Metronome
TM083. Poison Jab
TM084. Stomping Tantrum
TM085. Rest
TM087. Taunt
TM089. Body Press
TM094. Dark Pulse
TM095. Leech Life
TM102. Gunk Shot
TM103. Substitute
TM108. Crunch
TM114. Shadow Ball
TM117. Hyper Voice
TM122. Encore
TM127. Play Rough
TM130. Helping Hand
TM132. Baton Pass
TM134. Reversal
TM140. Nasty Plot
TM147. Wild Charge
TM148. Slude Bomb
TM152. Giga Impact
TM156. Outrage
TM165. Flare Blitz
TM167. Close Combat
TM171. Tera Blast

I'm hearing that Okidogi is going to be a beast in VGC but I'm not 100% sure.
Poison/Psychic
Ability: Toxic Chain/Toxic Chain/(Shadow Tag)
HP: 125/ATK: 71/DEF: 87/SP.ATK: 119/SP.DEF: 87/SPE: 111 (600 BST)
1. Vacuum Wave
1. Poison Fang
1. Taunt
9. Psybeam
13. Acid
17. Shadow Sneak
21. Night Shade
25. Encore
29. Calm Mind
33. Poison Jab
37. Hex
41. Psychic Fangs
45. Parting Shot
49. Toxic
54. Psychic
58. Destiny Bond

TM003. Fake Tears
TM004. Agility
TM005. Mud-Slap
TM006. Scary Face
TM007. Protect
TM012. Low Kick
TM013. Acid Spray
TM016. Psybeam
TM017. Confuse Ray
TM018. Thief
TM020. Trailblaze
TM022. Chilling Water
TM023. Charge Beam
TM024. Fire Spin
TM025. Facade
TM029. Hex
TM030. Snarl
TM032. Swift
TM033. Magical Leaf
TM034. Icy Wind
TM035. Mud Shot
TM037. Draining Kiss
TM039. Low Sweep
TM041. Stored Power
TM042. Night Shade
TM043. Fling
TM045. Venoshock
TM047. Endure
TM049. Sunny Day
TM050. Rain Dance
TM052. Snowscape
TM054. Psyshock
TM055. Dig
TM056. Bullet Seed
TM059. Zen Headbutt
TM060. U-Turn
TM061. Shadow Claw
TM062. Foul Play
TM063. Psychic Fangs
TM066. Body Slam
TM070. Sleep Talk
TM071. Seed Bomb
TM074. Reflect
TM075. Light Screen
TM079. Dazzling Gleam
TM080. Metronome
TM081. Grass Knot
TM082. Thunder Wave
TM083. Poison Jab
TM084. Stomping Tantrum
TM085. Rest
TM087. Taunt
TM090. Spikes
TM091. Toxic Spikes
TM092. Imprison
TM094. Dark Pulse
TM096. Eerie Impulse
TM098. Skill Swap
TM101. Power Gem
TM103. Substitute
TM108. Crunch
TM109. Trick
TM112. Aura Sphere
TM114. Shadow Ball
TM117. Hyper Voice
TM119. Energy Ball
TM120. Psychic
TM122. Encore
TM126. Thunderbolt
TM128. Amnesia
TM129. Calm Mind
TM130. Helping Hand
TM131. Pollen Puff
TM132. Baton Pass
TM137. Grassy Terrain
TM138. Psychic Terrain
TM140. Nasty Plot
TM148. Slude Bomb
TM151. Phantom Force
TM158. Focus Blast
TM161. Trick Room
TM163. Hyper Beam
TM166. Thunder
TM171. Tera Blast

HA Munkidori is basically a better Gothitelle.
Poison/Fairy
Ability: Toxic Chain/Toxic Chain/(Serene Grace)
HP: 93/ATK: 109/DEF: 73/SP.ATK: 145/SP.DEF: 73/SPE: 107 (600 BST)

1. Roost
1. Poison Fang
1. Taunt
9. Fairy Wind
13. Acid
17. Icy Wind
21. Whirlwind
25. Defog
29. Tailwind
33. Poison Jab
37. Heat Wave
41. Strange Steam
45. Parting Shot
49. Sludge Bomb
54. Moonblast
58. Hurricane

TM002. Charm
TM003. Fake Tears
TM004. Agility
TM007. Protect
TM013. Acid Spray
TM014: Acrobatics
TM015. Struggle Bug
TM016. Psybeam
TM017. Confuse Ray
TM019. Disarming Voice
TM022. Chilling Water
TM024. Fire Spin
TM025. Facade
TM026. Poison Tail
TM027. Aerial Ace
TM029. Hex
TM032. Swift
TM033. Magical Leaf
TM034. Icy Wind
TM037. Draining Kiss
TM038. Flame Charge
TM040. Air Cutter
TM041. Stored Power
TM042. Night Shade
TM043. Fling
TM045. Venoshock
TM047. Endure
TM049. Sunny Day
TM050. Rain Dance
TM051. Sandstorm
TM052. Snowscape
TM054. Psyshock
TM060. U-Turn
TM062. Foul Play
TM065. Air Slash
TM070. Sleep Talk
TM074. Reflect
TM075. Light Screen
TM079. Dazzling Gleam
TM083. Poison Jab
TM085. Rest
TM087. Taunt
TM092. Imprison
TM094. Dark Pulse
TM097. Fly
TM103. Substitute
TM107. Will-O-Wisp
TM109. Trick
TM112. Aura Sphere
TM113. Tailwind
TM114. Shadow Ball
TM117. Hyper Voice
TM118. Heat Wave
TM120. Psychic
TM122. Encore
TM127. Play Rough
TM129. Calm Mind
TM130. Helping Hand
TM132. Baton Pass
TM138. Psychic Terrain
TM139. Misty Terrain
TM140. Nasty Plot
TM143. Blizzard
TM148. Slude Bomb
TM157. Overheat
TM158. Focus Blast
TM160. Hurricane
TM161. Trick Room
TM163. Hyper Beam
TM164. Brave Bird
TM166. Thunder
TM168. Solar Beam
TM171. Tera Blast

Out of all the Loyal Three Fezandipiti gets the short end of the stick.
Like other Pokémon with swappable formes Ogerpon has moves that only a specific forme can learn. They're listed as such here.

Ogerpon (Teal Mask)
Ghost/Grass
Ability: Embody Aspect/Embody Aspect/Embody Aspect
HP: 115/ATK: 105/DEF: 105/SP.ATK: 105/SP.DEF: 105/SPE: 130 (665 BST)

(Wellspring Mask)
Ghost/Water
Ability: Embody Aspect/Embody Aspect/Embody Aspect
HP: 115/ATK: 105/DEF: 105/SP.ATK: 105/SP.DEF: 130/SPE: 105 (665 BST)

(Hearthflame Mask)
Ghost/Fire
Ability: Embody Aspect/Embody Aspect/Embody Aspect
HP: 115/ATK: 130/DEF: 105/SP.ATK: 105/SP.DEF: 105/SPE: 105 (665 BST)

(Cornerstone Mask)
Ghost/Rock
Ability: Embody Aspect/Embody Aspect/Embody Aspect
HP: 115/ATK: 105/DEF: 130/SP.ATK: 105/SP.DEF: 105/SPE: 105 (665 BST)

1. Curse
1. Double Hit
1. Growth
1. Hex
1. Mega Drain [Teal Mask form]
1. Brine [Wellspring Mask form]
1. Incinerate [Hearthflame Mask form]
1. Smack Down [Cornerstone Mask form]
8. Infestation
12. Trailblaze [Teal Mask form]
12. Chilling Water [Wellspring Mask form]
12. Fire Spin [Hearthflame Mask form]
12. Rock Tomb [Cornerstone Mask form]
16. Taunt
24. Shadow Sneak
24. Grassy Terrain [Teal Mask form]
24. Rain Dance [Wellspring Mask form]
24. Sunny Day [Hearthflame Mask form]
24. Sandstorm [Cornerstone Mask form]
32. Terrain Pulse
36. Leech Seed [Teal Mask form]
36. Life Dew [Wellspring Mask form]
36. Lava Plume [Hearthflame Mask form]
36. Ancient Power [Cornerstone Mask form]
40. Endeavor
48. Ivy Cudgel
48. Grass Knot [Teal Mask form]
48. Water Pulse [Wellspring Mask form]
48. Will-O-Wisp [Hearthflame Mask form]
48. Stealth Rock [Cornerstone Mask form]
56. Close Combat
56. Dazzling Gleam
56. Trick Room
60. Petal Dance [Teal Mask form]
60. Wave Crash [Wellspring Mask form]
60. Eruption [Hearthflame Mask form]
60. Head Smash [Cornerstone Mask form]
64. Victory Dance
72. Memento
72. Power Whip [Teal Mask form]
72. Aqua Ring [Wellspring Mask form]
72. Raging Fury [Hearthflame Mask form]
72. Wide Guard [Cornerstone Mask form]
80. Last Respects
84. Frenzy Plant [Teal Mask form]
84. Hydro Cannon [Wellspring Mask form]
84. Blast Burn [Hearthflame Mask form]
84. Meteor Beam [Cornerstone Mask form]

TM002. Charm
TM003. Fake Tears
TM004. Agility
TM006. Scary Face
TM007. Protect
TM011. Water Pulse [Wellspring Mask form]
TM012. Low Kick
TM013. Acid Spray
TM015. Struggle Bug
TM017. Confuse Ray
TM020. Trailblaze [Teal Mask form]
TM021. Pounce
TM022. Chilling Water [Wellspring Mask form]
TM024. Fire Spin [Hearthflame Mask form]
TM025. Facade
TM029. Hex
TM030. Snarl
TM032. Swift
TM035. Mud Shot
TM036. Rock Tomb [Cornerstone Mask form]
TM039. Low Sweep
TM042. Night Shade
TM047. Endure
TM049. Sunny Day [Hearthflame Mask form]
TM050. Rain Dance [Wellspring Mask form]
TM051. Sandstorm [Cornerstone Mask form]
TM052. Snowscape
TM054. Psyshock
TM056. Bullet Seed [Teal Mask form]
TM062. Foul Play
TM070. Sleep Talk
TM074. Reflect
TM075. Light Screen
TM079. Dazzling Gleam
TM080. Metronome
TM081. Grass Knot [Teal Mask form]
TM085. Rest
TM086. Rock Slide [Cornerstone Mask form]
TM087. Taunt
TM092. Imprison
TM098. Skill Swap
TM101. Power Gem [Cornerstone Mask form]
TM103. Substitute
TM104. Iron Defense
TM107. Will-O-Wisp [Hearthflame Mask form]
TM109. Trick
TM110. Liquidation [Wellspring Mask form]
TM112. Aura Sphere
TM116. Stealth Rock [Cornerstone Mask form]
TM118. Heat Wave [Hearthflame Mask form]
TM119. Energy Ball [Teal Mask form]
TM122. Encore
TM123. Surf [Wellspring Mask form]
TM130. Helping Hand
TM131. Pollen Puff
TM132. Baton Pass
TM133. Earth Power
TM137. Grassy Terrain [Teal Mask form]
TM140. Nasty Plot
TM142. Hydro Pump [Wellspring Mask form]
TM148. Slude Bomb
TM150. Stone Edge[Cornerstone Mask form]
TM151. Phantom Force
TM152. Giga Impact
TM153. Blast Burn [Hearthflame Mask form]
TM154. Hydro Cannon [Wellspring Mask form]
TM155. Frenzy Plant [Teal Mask form]
TM156. Outrage
TM157. Overheat [Hearthflame Mask form]
TM158. Focus Blast
TM159. Leaf Storm [Teal Mask form]
TM161. Trick Room
TM163. Hyper Beam
TM165. Flare Blitz [Hearthflame Mask form]
TM167. Close Combat
TM171. Tera Blast

Embody Aspect: The Pokémon's heart fills with memories, causing the [Teal/Wellspring/Hearthflame/Cornerstone] Mask to shine and the Pokémon's [Speed/Special Defense/Attack/Defense] stat to be boosted.

Ivy Cudgel: The user strikes with an ivy-wrapped cudgel. This move's type changes depending on the mask worn by the user, and it has a heightened chance of landing a critical hit.

Ogerpon is basically going to be banished to Ubers once Smogon gets a hold of it and it'll be a powerful tool in VGC. It's also worth noting that Houndstone taught a lot of players to be wary of Last Respects so expect that to be a major problem.
 
Whoops.
I keep forgetting to say that, in my hack, there will be no splitting the Sinistea/Sinistcha lines into Phony/Unremarkable and Antique/Masterpiece. Those differences are simply ignored, since all tha they affect is a very smal label and their evolution method. They ar exactly the same otherwise.

I also might do something about Past Raikou's design, bu there is no guarantee ther, either.

On those leaks...
Wait. The Loyal Three actually learn Toxic and Ipplin actually learn Sweet Scent, even though their Abilities automatically has them inflic those moves? At least Paldean Ursaring does not learn Foresight.
I am surprised that one can simply customise their Ogerpon by having the Ogerpon learn a move, swap the mask, then learn other, though later, moves. I actually found out abou this when I planned in my hack on havin Gardevoir and Gallade volve into their Future Counterpart, which moves would be definitely influenced ifferently by its pre-evolution.
 
Archeops said:
Normal/Steel
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wait what? This is getting retarded, absolutely nothing about that design suggests Steel in any way shape or form. I don’t understand GameFreak’s mad dash to add every single unused type combo into the game whether it makes sense or not, especially when they’re actively detrimental to designs like this (and every single fighting type from this generation and partially the last) is. Please, dear god, somebody fire the entire in-game mon (moves/abilities/typings/etc) design department, they’re clearly terrible at their jobs.

Archeops said:
1. Blood Moon
1. Headlong Rush
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>lmao let’s just give this new form both an extremely OP signature move similar to the region’s Pseudo Legendary’s while also giving it the extremely OP signature move of its base form surely nothing can go wrong here

Archeops said:
(Weak Armor [Unremarkable form])/(Shell Armor [Masterpiece form])
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Archeops said:
72. Happy Hour [Unremarkable form]
72. Celebrate [Masterpiece form]
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>lmao let’s just make extremely rare forms of regular Pokémon have different level-up moves and abilities than their more common forms to squeeze more replay time out of our rabid fanbase of retarded collectors so that people who want a specific ability or move on their mon will be eternally frustrated at their mon not being able to have an ability or move that its species could learn under different circumstances despite how many steps we’ve taken to prevent that and nobody will notice that there is literally nothing else to do in this scummy excuse for a video game
>and while we’re at it let’s reintroduce an old event-only move that literally does nothing into a normal mon’s in-game learnset to simultaneously hurt those collectors by “devaluing their mon” using their own retarded logic
>????????????
the only saving grace here is that Masterpiece’s move and ability are both objectively worse than Unremarkable’s in most contexts
the ability is debatably less objectively worse since Shell Armor is still quite good, but I think Weak Armor is better in competitive and isn’t horrible on its own so

Archeops said:
Poison/Fighting
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Archeops said:
Poison/Psychic
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Archeops said:
Poison/Fairy
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my clairvoyance strikes once more :smug:

Archeops said:
80. Last Respects
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yeah that thing’s going to UUBL immediately lol
Houndstone already got decimated simply for having STAB on the damn move, imagine what STAB from a legendary with automatic stat-boosting abilities could do

one last thing I nearly forgot:
Archeops said:
(Cornerstone Mask)
Ghost/Rock
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I am almost impressed by how spectacularly I have been pissed off by how this generation’s decided to hand out the new type combos
like yeah give the fat overgrown 2000s Raichu OC with no reason to exist and the worst design of any pikaclone (the lowest fucking bar in the series, mind you) an electric/fighting type despite the previous gen’s Zapdos regional variant, Furrybait Mythical The Fourth from the gen before that one focusing entirely around punching and big meaty claws, and the literal raging ape-ogre thing known for its physical violence all existing
and make the ghost/rock type introduced solely with a shitty mask form that barely justifies it despite the literal dead coral, undead stone inscription, and the skeletal dog with a literal tombstone on its head all coming out within the last 2 fucking generations
If the Fighting type no longer means anything outside of “this mon punches hard”, give it to the fucking Ostrich with tree-trunk legs that rapes shit just by staring at it and is known for attacking with kicks
If a combination of Ghost/Rock won’t apply to literal living rocks in any way shape or form, why establish what it should be with a fucking gimmick form that doesn’t clarify anything outside of “this legendary sucks dick and we really need more ideas outside of type changing to sell our flagship DLC legends with”?
I had this exact same type-debut issue with Rotom and its forms, and it’s a substantial part of why I still don’t like that static orange sperm to this day (and Galarian Darmanitan by proxy), so seeing the issue only become more and more prevalent as the series continues onward is just another straw to add to the long-segregated spine of this poor dead camel

sigh
maybe someday this series will finally fucking die
or be well and truly rebooted so that the newer stuff can take on a life of its own and just be ignored
some day…
 
Anonitolia said:
wait what? This is getting retarded, absolutely nothing about that design suggests Steel in any way shape or form.
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Literal FNAF animatronic
 
Anonitolia said:
(double-posting for another round of Teal Mask spoilers)
supposedly the entire Teal Mask pokedex has leaked, revealing every returning mon, every new form, and mon… already in the base Paldean dex added in, for some reason.

linking to a dogshit article on the matter because I’m away from home and can’t copy the entire list without a bigger screen, I’ll probably copy-paste it in a week or so once circumstances have changed
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This is probably like how gen 8 had specific dexes for each of it's DLC areas. So this is the DLC 1 dex.
 
Looks like news outlets in Japan got to try out the DLC, we've got a small amount of new info.
New TMs are in being introduced in the DLC with Grassy Glide, Burning Jealousy, Lash Out, Poltergeist, and Toxic being shown via Famitsu.

More apparel, hairstyles, picnic supplies are available in the Kitakami Center. For some weird reason it was pointed out that you can now rearrange the chairs when you set up a picnic.

The Ogre Oustin' mini-game can also provide Tera Shards alongside the previously revealed EV-boosting/resetting mochi. There are three levels of difficulty (Beginner, Intermediate, and Advanced) and you can have friends play alongside you to complete it.

New items are introduced and the EXP Charm from SWSH's DLC returns.

The Roto-Stick that allows you to take better in-game selfies with your Pokémon can also play music that your Pokémon can react to. You can also share photos with friends via the Union Circle feature.
We're a week plus a day away from The Teal Mask's drop date so I wouldn't be surprised if more news comes out between now and then.
 
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More apparel, hairstyles, picnic supplies are available in the Kitakami Center.
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“give us money to use a feature that used to be free and included within the base games of previous gens” is becoming one of my least favorite recurring patterns

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For some weird reason it was pointed out that you can now rearrange the chairs when you set up a picnic.
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they literally have nothing else to show lol the rest of the demo talks about extremely minor shit like getting your Pokémon to notice you in photo mode and very basic difficulty-select modes for the recycled Arceus bike races

remember: they want $35 dollars for this
 
So question. Is there anything in these game's coding that make it so they can't have a skin tone slider? You'd think with how they've been embracing the global market since the 3ds era that they would put that in.
 
With the 10th anniversary of Gen 6's release, I hope we'll get more information on the Draconid tribe of Hoenn. In OR/AS, they seem to be one of the first peoples of the Hoenn region and worship Rayquaza. Though who knows. Maybe they're like Legends: Arceus where many people in Sinnoh aren't native to Sinnoh, but descendants of immigrants from all over the Pokemon world.
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So question. Is there anything in these game's coding that make it so they can't have a skin tone slider? You'd think with how they've been embracing the global market since the 3ds era that they would put that in.
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I don't think so, but perhaps someone else would have a better answer. There's a lot of details that you'd think would be in the games by now but aren't. It did take until gen 6 to have real trainer customization, and even then, that was supposed to be a gimmick unique to Kalos until popularity brought it back to some extent.
 
Personally I feel like the Ursaluna variant is just worse. It has the hammer variant, but it's missing a few things that the regular Ursaluna has. For one, Normal/Ground is arguably defensively better. You trade a water and grass weakness for a quad fighting weakness, a ground weakness, and a fire weakness. Don't forget the meta's dominated by Great Tusk in general, and Steel is just really hurt by being paired with normal. Offensively, Steel is a pretty bad STAB compared to ground... and then there's the big one. The new variant lacks Guts, and Flame Orb Guts Facade is what makes Ursaluna offensively. Intimidate's still nice... but there's still the quad fighting weakness in a meta prepared for Kingambit so it is not placed defensively at all.

I'm not saying it's bad - the raw defensive profile is still wild. It's still weaker thanks to the really bad typing. I think it might have a home in the lower tiers, but the new Ursaluna is most hurt by the fact that the Hisuian variant acts as a check thanks to headlong rush. High UU for sure, but I don't think it has a spot in OU.
 
GigantorUnitron said:
So question. Is there anything in these game's coding that make it so they can't have a skin tone slider? You'd think with how they've been embracing the global market since the 3ds era that they would put that in.
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Honestly without knowing the inner workings of all the companies attached, my only reasoning is that Game Freak are just bad developers. I mean people want to complain how much worse they are now, but I’ll contend that they have always been bad at their jobs since day one.

I mean from what I can tell the best parts of S/V we’re the Pokémon models which I believe was handle by Creatures Inc. then just look back at the history of the franchise and see how broken their games were, getting away with it mainly because they were on a handheld system.

Like being frank I actually do enjoy S/V in spite of how badly programmed and designed they are. I just think like any other developer within Nintendo could make a better game than GF ever could. Because you can’t use the Switch is weak line, when Monolith was able to make Xenoblade X on the Wii U. A game with a much bigger world, with more going on, with better and more varied movement options on the Wii U of all consoles.
 
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Honestly without knowing the inner workings of all the companies attached, my only reasoning is that Game Freak are just bad developers. I mean people want to complain how much worse they are now, but I’ll contend that they have always been bad at their jobs since day one.

I mean from what I can tell the best parts of S/V we’re the Pokémon models which I believe was handle by Creatures Inc. then just look back at the history of the franchise and see how broken their games were, getting away with it mainly because they were on a handheld system.

Like being frank I actually do enjoy S/V in spite of how badly programmed and designed they are. I just think like any other developer within Nintendo could make a better game than GF ever could. Because you can’t use the Switch is weak line, when Monolith was able to make Xenoblade X on the Wii U. A game with a much bigger world, with more going on, with better and more varied movement options on the Wii U of all consoles.
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Pokemon only got as big as it did because of Satoru Iwata fixing their shit to make them look good. Throw in that most Japanese artists want to do nothing but draw porn all day and you have modern game freak and no decent original pokemon since sun/moon.

The series would be better if they stopped with the stupid generational gimmicks no one cares about and went back to more new pokemon with each generation and longer postgames.
 
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Pokemon only got as big as it did because of Satoru Iwata fixing their shit to make them look good. Throw in that most Japanese artists want to do nothing but draw porn all day and you have modern game freak and no decent original pokemon since sun/moon.

The series would be better if they stopped with the stupid generational gimmicks no one cares about and went back to more new pokemon with each generation and longer postgames.
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I mean that’s a 100% prove able untrue statement, Iwata is only on record as helping with Gold and Silver but your just a liar if you don’t think Pokémon wasn’t already bigger than Jesus with the first games. So no they succeeded on their own merits, the issue was their own merits weren’t even good considering how fucking busted all the gen 1 games were.

Also I’ll extra disagree because I think almost no Pokémon except for maybe Rowlets line look good from Sun/Moon and that whole line of games is ass just for having the shitty SOS feature. Also it’s just your opinion on the Pokémon designs which is fair but I think S/V have more designs I liked then most of the games since Black/White. Except for that fucking gay pink gremlin, whole line is shit and I assume your a tranny if you like Tinkatink or whatever.
 
Alrighty, what are you guys arguing about th--



Inafune Fanfiction said:
Pokemon only got as big as it did because of Satoru Iwata fixing their shit to make them look good. Throw in that most Japanese artists want to do nothing but draw porn all day
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Is there something in the water that's making you guys sperg out about the company's failings from around 30 years ago?
 
NerdShamer said:
Is there something in the water that's making you guys sperg out about the company's failings from around 30 years ago?
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They can't fix modern Gamefreak so some take to complaining about past Gamefreak. The process is natural and doomed. Looking for the source of a problem in the hopes that a solution will reveal itself, but the problem and any potential solution is so far removed due the corporate structure that people get stuck in a loop eternally evaluating the failings of every era of the series.
 
Very boring take, but while I find that some features being gatekept behind DLC is less than ideal, I still prefer it over having to beat the "same" game with some small tweaks twice like they used to do with third versions. Ultra S/M taught me that lesson the hard way. At least this way you get the new content on the same save.

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Is there something in the water that's making you guys sperg out about the company's failings from around 30 years ago?
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All us Pokespergs wish it has always been better than it actually is, but can't ever quite get the blame just right. Some say it's always been bad, some say it's always been good, the truth is somewhere on the spectrum between that and one's own rose-colored glasses.
 
I’m just saying Game Freak has always been a kinda of shitty developer with very visible issues from the start. That’s really it, I mean im not doom and glooming because I still enjoy the games. They have huge problems that have no reason to be there that most developers would’ve fixed by now but I still enjoy their products.
 
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