Pokémon (Not-So) Griefing Thread - Scarlet and Violet Released with 10 Million Copies in First 3 Days in Buggy States

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Not even a new evo. Just a few stat boosts and a better ability than Run Away
I'd save the pegasus idea for some kind of regional form. Have it be part-Flying, with Flying-Type STAB moves such as Drill Peck and Brave Bird
A straight buff to Rapidash itself isn't likely as Game Freak have yet to straight up tweak the stats of mon without restricting it to a regional variant.

An evo is probably the only way Rapidash can get the help it needs.
Rapidash is one of those 'mons that desperately needs another evolution to make it good.

Imagine if it got one where it turned into a pegasus, and became Fire/Fairy, or something.
Or hell, even a split-evolution based on the two variants.

The Kantonian variant becomes the Fire/Ghost Coltergeist while the Galarian one becomes the Psychic/Ghost Phantasmare...goria.

I tried.
Galarian Rapidash already fills that fairy type niche and is already a dual type. Although, a Fire/Flying pegasus rapidash would be cool.
 
Hypno and Arbok desparately need a regional form or an evolution. too.
Arbok is so close to being a good pokemon. He has a great ability in Intimidate and a lot of useful moves such as glare, coil, and sucker punch, but his stats are so mediocre. An evolution that just beefs up all of his stats would do him wonders, hell he could even stay pure poison since its a pretty great defensive typing.
 
There actually were some stat changes for Gen 7, but they were all small. For instance, Arbok's attack increased from 85 to 95.
They actually first did it in Gen 6, but as you mentioned they only changed stats by 10. Mostly for Gen 1 pokemon, but they buffed pokemon from as recent as Gen 5. In Gen 7 they got a bit crazier with the highest change in BST being 40 for Masquerain (SpA and Spe), and a tie between Swellow (SpA) and Farfetch'd (Att) for highest stat change of 25.
 
Despite what I said previously, I am still planning my theoretical hack.

This time, I talk abou th evolutions. I had t overly simply them due to the limitations of the hardware and my GBC hacking skills.
  • Sprigatito → LV 16 → Floragato → LV 32→ Meowscarada
  • Fuecoco → LV 16 → Crocalor → LV 36 → Skeledirge
  • Quaxly → LV 16 → Quaxwell → LV 36 → Quaquaval
  • Lechonk → LV 18 → Oinkologne
  • Tarountula → LV 15 → Spidops
  • Nymble → LV 24 → Lokix
  • Pawmi → LV 18 → Pawmohigh friendshipPawmot
  • Tandemaus → LV 25 → Maushold
  • Fidough → LV 26 → Dachsbun
  • Smoliv → LV 25 → Dolliv → LV 35 → Arboliva
  • Nacli → LV 24 → Naclstack → LV 38 → Garganacl
  • CharcadetSun StoneArmarouge
  • CharcadetMoon StoneCeruledge
  • Tadbulb → Thunder Stone → Bellibolt
  • Wattrel → LV 25 → Kilowattrel
  • Maschiff → LV 30 → Mabosstiff
  • Schroodle → LV 28 → Grafaiai
  • Bramblinhigh friendshipBrambleghast
  • Tentacool → LV 30 → Tentacruel
  • Toedscool → LV 30 → Toedscruel
  • Capsakid → Fire Stone → Scovillain
  • Rellorhigh friendshipRabsca
  • Flittle → LV 35 → Espathra
  • Tinkatink → LV 24 → Tinkatuff → LV 38 → Tinkaton
  • Kantonian Diglett → LV 26 → Kantionan Dugtrio
  • Alolan Diglett → LV 26 → Alolan Dugtrio
  • Wiglett → LV 26 → Wugtrio
  • FinizenLV 38Zero Palafinhigh friendship at dayHero Palafin
  • Varoom → LV 40 → Plain Revavroom
  • Glimmett → LV 35 → Glimmora
  • Greavardhigh friendship at nightHoundstone
  • Cetoddle → Ice Stone → Cetitan
  • Mankey → LV 28 → Primapelow friendshipAnnihilape
  • Beta WooperWater StoneJohtonian Wooper → LV 20 → Quagsire
  • Beta WooperPoison StonePaldean Wooper → LV 20 → Clodsire
  • TsuinzuLV 24Beta Girafarig
  • Johtonian GirafarigLV 34 with equal Attack and DefenseFarigiraf
  • Dunsparcehigh friendshipDudunsparce
  • Pawniard → LV 52 → BisharpLV 64Kingambit
  • Frigibax → LV 35 → Arctibax → LV 54 → Baxcalibur
  • Gimmighoulhigh friendshipGholdengo
  • Phanpy → LV 25 → DonphanPaleo FeedGreat Tusk
  • Phanpy → LV 25 → DonphanSoylentIron Treads
  • Igglybuff → high friendship → Jigglypuff Paleo FeedScream Tail
  • Igglybuff → high friendship → Jigglypuff → Moon Stone → Wigglytuff
  • Foongus → LV 39 → AmoongussPaleo FeedBrute Bonnet
  • MisdreavusMoon StoneMismagius
  • MisdreavusPaleo FeedFlutter Mane
  • Larvesta → LV 59 → VolcaronaPaleo FeedSlither Wing
  • Larvesta → LV 59 → VolcaronaSoylentIron Moth
  • Magnemite → LV 30 → Magneton → Thunder Stone → Magnezone
  • Magnemite → LV 30 → MagnetonPaleo FeedSandy Shocks
  • DelibirdSoylentIron Bundle
  • Makuhita → LV 24 → HariyamaSoylentIron Hands
  • Deino → LV 50 → Zweilous → LV 64 → HydreigonSoylentIron Jugulis
  • Larvitar → LV 30 → Pupitar → LV 55 → TyranitarSoylentIron Thorns
  • Bagon → LV 30 → Shellgon → LV 50 → SalamencePaleo FeedRoaring Moon
  • Ralts → LV 20 → KirliaLV 30 if Attack < DefenseGardevoirSoylentIron Valiant
  • Ralts → LV 20 → KirliaLV 30 if Attack > DefenseGalladeSoylentIron Valiant
  • CyclizarPaleo FeedKoraidon
  • CyclizarSoylentMiraidon
  • Gastly → LV 25 → HaunterLink CableGengarPaleo FeedPast Gengar
  • Abra → LV 16 → KadabraLink CableAlakazamPaleo FeedPast Alakazam
  • Dreepy → LV 50 → Drakloak → LV 60 → DragapultPaleo FeedPast Dragapult
  • Bellsprout → LV 21 → Weepingbell → Leaf Stone → VictreebelPaleo FeedPast Victreebel
  • Bellsprout → LV 21 → Weepingbell → Poison Stone → Tsubomitto
  • Flambear → LV 16 → Volbear → LV 32 → DynabearPaleo FeedPast Dynabear
  • YanmaSun StoneYanmegaSoylentFuture Yanmega
  • Golett → LV 43 → GolurkSoylentFuture Golurk
  • Venipede → LV 22 → Whirlpede → LV 30 → ScolipedeSoylentFuture Scolipede
  • Zubat → LV 22 → Golbat → high friendship → CrobatSoylentFuture Crobat
  • Squirtle → LV 16 → Wartortle → LV 36 → BlastoiseSoylentFuture Blastoise
  • Magikarp → LV 20 → Gyarados
  • MagikarpPaleo FeedPast Magikarp
  • MagikarpSoylentFuture Magikarp
  • Magiwyrm → LV 20 → Tierrados
  • Kotora → LV 35 → RaitoraThunder StoneGaotora
  • DittoLink CableAnimon
  • WolfmanIce StoneWarwolf
  • GyarthLV 33Gyaoon
  • 217LV 15218Leaf Stone219
  • 217LV 15218Water Stone220
  • 223high friendship224
I tried to have the Poison, Sun, and Ice Stones have more than one use, though I ended up having the Fire Stone have only one use. I could have used the Fire Stone on Charcadet, but I figured tha the Sun Stone would have made a better contras to the Moon Stone-powered Ceruledge, since Ceruledge is an unscrupulous knight while Armarouge is an honourable knight.
The above is the reason why Yanmega evolves wi the Sun Stone. I could have had #218 evolve wi the Sun Stone, but, since #217 and #218 are snow bunnies, that would imply tha they would melt.
Misdreavus evolving wi the Moon Stone is because I did not wan to add a Dusk Stone and a subsequent Dawn Stone and Shiny Stone.
Raitora never got any evolution data outside of the currently-unknown Pokémon Red and Green beta. I fel that a Thunder Stone fits.
I ended up making Beta Wooper the 'baby' form of Wooper, then having Beta Wooper evolve into different formes depending on the stone. A result is that Beta Wooper is Water/Ground instead of just Water.
Any trad evolutions, now use the Link Cable from Pokémon Mystery Dungeon, which is used the same way a Stone is used. Ditto does not need to hold a Metal Coat.
Other evolutionary items include the Paleo Feed (based on the Paleolithic diet) and Soylent (based on the 'futuristic', soy-based meal replacement). Paleo Feed turns a Pokémon into its Past Paradox version, while Soylent turns a Pokémon into its Future Paradox version. You have to bea the game before you can ge these. However, the 'wrong' food costs a lot more compared to the 'right' food: Soylent is far mor expensive in Pokémon Scarlet but cheaper in Pokémon Violet.

I switched any Let's Go evolutions to friendship evolutions, since the amount of walking you would have to do with a friendship-based evolution should mimick the walking aspect of Let's Go evolutions.
#223 evolving into #224 through friendship i supposed to reflec the 'nurturing' aspect of the Pokémon, which are based on delivery storks. I later alised that #223 is a Baby Pokémon and would hav evolved with igh friendship, anyways.
The same reason is behind Gimmighoul evolving into Gholdengo: you teac him to be a lot mor friendlier.
The same reason is behind Dunsparce volving into Dudunsparce: he got an evolution out of the love the fanbase gave him.
The same reason is behind Greavard evolving into Houndstone instead of a Moon Stone: you are giving Greavard th affection Greavard craves. More importantly, friendship is the only time-based trigger.
Because Palafin really depends on his ability, I decided upon splitting Palafin's formes into separat evolutions. Evolving Finizen into Zero Palafin only requires the level-up, whereas evolving Hero Palafin requires friendship, whic should mimick the social aspect of leveling up him in the Union Circle. Then again, this could reflect how simply having superpowers does not make you a superhero, whereas you teac him to love others. The reason why I had him evolve in the day is because I felt weird having only a night-tim evolution without a day evolution. Palafin got hat evolution since Palafin is an Ekpy of Superman, who ended up being the day-based counterpart of the night-based Batman.
Conversely, evolving Primeape into Annihilape with low frienship i supposed to reflec the resentment Primeape gets upon evolving into Annihilape. That is also horrifying, but at least canon.

I fel that keeping the beta nd final evolution lines of Girafarig separate was appropriate. I made Johtonian Girafarig evolve into Farigiraf with equal Attack and Defense in reference to the symmetry of Girafarig's name and esign.
I would have had Kirlia evolve via gender, bu there is no gender check when evolving, whereas having different-gendered versions of the same Pokémon would waste valuable Pokémon slots. I plan on checking on the gender check later, though.
Bisharp evolves into Kingambit with LV 64 since the Pawniard line has a chess motif, and there are 64 squares on a chessboard. I did not want oo high a level, since that would make Kingambit impractical until th end of the game. (The 'wrong' Paradox formes are more a prize to the player.)
The level evolutions of Gyarth and #217 was just me putting what felt right.
 
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Due to all the talk about underwhelming Pokemon, it gave me a thought. Gen 10 would be a good time to stop introducing new species lines all together and only release new regional variants or evolutions to lines that desperately need a boost. You could, very, very easily pick out 70-120 examples of drastically underpowered Pokemon lines and start giving them the buffs they desperately need to be competitive at some level. Sadly there's not as much merchandising in this regard so that's definitely a pipe dream.



I had completely forgotten that I have Pokemon Crystal on my 3DS and started playing again... Then I remembered Gen2 has the best clone glitch of any gen... And those clones can be transfered to Bank, then to Home. Needless to say, I'm trying to SR for a Shiny Celebi because if I can just get 1, I have infinite, and they're good trade fodder if Celebi gets added to S/V. Hell, the Home phone app has trading too, so they could also be really useful for getting spare legendaries trading that way.

After that, I'm going for Lugia and Ho-Oh, then doing the chain shiny breeding Gen2 is known for. If I had Gold or Silver, I would just ACE for everything, but Crystal is my only option at present and ACE does not work in that version to my knowledge. Might ACE my VC-Red for some Mews at some point though.
 
Is there really an item called soylent or did you make this up?
I am referring to this: https://soylent.com/
Soylent and Paleo Feed are just items that ar exclusive to my hack. I just wanted items that evolve Pokémon to their suspiciously similar Paradox forms. I picked 'paleo feed' and 'Soylent' in reference to the past and future motif that Scarlet and Violet have.
 
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Well then good luck not accidentally evolving your Zubat into Nu-Bat.

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Due to all the talk about underwhelming Pokemon, it gave me a thought. Gen 10 would be a good time to stop introducing new species lines all together and only release new regional variants or evolutions to lines that desperately need a boost. You could, very, very easily pick out 70-120 examples of drastically underpowered Pokemon lines and start giving them the buffs they desperately need to be competitive at some level. Sadly there's not as much merchandising in this regard so that's definitely a pipe dream.



I had completely forgotten that I have Pokemon Crystal on my 3DS and started playing again... Then I remembered Gen2 has the best clone glitch of any gen... And those clones can be transfered to Bank, then to Home. Needless to say, I'm trying to SR for a Shiny Celebi because if I can just get 1, I have infinite, and they're good trade fodder if Celebi gets added to S/V. Hell, the Home phone app has trading too, so they could also be really useful for getting spare legendaries trading that way.

After that, I'm going for Lugia and Ho-Oh, then doing the chain shiny breeding Gen2 is known for. If I had Gold or Silver, I would just ACE for everything, but Crystal is my only option at present and ACE does not work in that version to my knowledge. Might ACE my VC-Red for some Mews at some point though.
They won't ever stop making new pokémons as long as making those makes them money in the things that makes them a lot more money than the games
 
Well then good luck not accidentally evolving your Zubat into Nu-Bat.

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You know the name 'soylent" comes from the 1973 movie "Soylent Green", right? That up until some bugmen used it as the name for their nasty-ass soy drink, most people thought of weird cannibal shit.
 
1: Why not use the Up-grade or Metal Coat for the Futuristic Pokemon, and King's Rock for the Past? For that matter, why are you making them evolutions and not unique Pokemon? The pseudo-ones actually lose BST from their normal forms.
2: It might be a typo but you've listed both donphan evolutions as Paleo Feed evolutions.
3: really don't like the Annihilape and Farigiraf evolutions. ow friendship is hard to maintain, especially belatedly, which makes a mankey the player raises from early on really hard to max out. and Girafarig's stats are pretty skewed. I'd probably just make them "level they learn the move" or "level they learn the move plus a little more".
 
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You know the name 'soylent" comes from the 1973 movie "Soylent Green", right? That up until some bugmen used it as the name for their nasty-ass soy drink, most people thought of weird cannibal shit.
...definitely. The associated message was going to be 'Causes a future Paradox. Vegan.' in acknowledgement of the Soylent Green film. (Paleo Feed would have the message 'Causes a past Paradox. Organic.')

1: Why not use the Up-grade or Metal Coat for the Futuristic Pokemon, and King's Rock for the Past? For that matter, why are you making them evolutions and not unique Pokemon? The pseudo-ones actually lose BST from their normal forms.
2: It might be a typo but you've listed both donphan evolutions as Paleo Feed evolutions.
3: really don't like the Annihilape and Farigiraf evolutions. ow friendship is hard to maintain, especially belatedly, which makes a mankey the player raises from early on really hard to max out. and Girafarig's stats are pretty skewed. I'd probably just make them "level they learn the move" or "level they learn the move plus a little more".
1. Hn... considering that I already replaced Mismagius' Dusk Stone with a Moon Stone... I do not wan to use a King's Rock or a Metal Coat, though, since those items are also battle items. An Up-Grade would work, especially since there are no Porygon in this game; I just need a corresponding past item. For that matter, that is also a reference to th Evolve into Paradox mod, which just made sense to me thematically: https://gamebanana.com/mods/415641 Maybe I can turn most of those into branched evolutions, instead?
2. Excuse me. Thank you.
3. Can you not just use a lot of bitter herbal medicine just befor evolving Annihilape, especially since this evolution does not depend on level? I agree with you on Girafarig, though. I also feel unconfortable wit how I mplemented the branched evolution of Kirlia. The problem is that Pokémon Gen 2 games have few evolution methods:
  • Reach a certain LV
  • Use an item on them
  • Trade them
  • Trade them while they hold a specific item
  • Have their happiness be a specific number (not just high)
  • Have their happiness be a specific number in the day
  • Have their happiness be a specific number at night
  • Have their Attack and Defense statistics b equal
  • Have their Attack be bigger than their Defense
  • Have their Defense be bigger than their Attack
I a more pushed into a corner here, especially since trading is a no-go regarding a hack.
 
The Tera Raid Wall of Shame:
  • Player who brings a Pokémon strong against its normal type but walled by its tera type.
  • Player who brings a Pokémon strong against its tera type but gets nuked by its regular moves (that tera water Gengar is still packing poison moves for your grass type)
  • Player who brings a frail sweeper that dies in a single hit (the God damn cat)
The second I see someone bring Meowscarada to a six star raid I just disconnect to not waste my time. Anyway, I caught a shiny female Lechonk yesterday and I'm trying to think of a set for it. Oinkologne's stats aren't terrible but its movepool is more barren than a salted field. Anyone have any recommendations? Obviously this thing isn't competitively viable what-so-ever but maybe there's some dumb gimmick I'm not seeing.
 
The Tera Raid Wall of Shame:
  • Player who brings a Pokémon strong against its normal type but walled by its tera type.
  • Player who brings a Pokémon strong against its tera type but gets nuked by its regular moves (that tera water Gengar is still packing poison moves for your grass type)
  • Player who brings a frail sweeper that dies in a single hit (the God damn cat)
The second I see someone bring Meowscarada to a six star raid I just disconnect to not waste my time. Anyway, I caught a shiny female Lechonk yesterday and I'm trying to think of a set for it. Oinkologne's stats aren't terrible but its movepool is more barren than a salted field. Anyone have any recommendations? Obviously this thing isn't competitively viable what-so-ever but maybe there's some dumb gimmick I'm not seeing.

I feel your pain but it's also helpful to remember a bunch of children are playing a children's game.

What annoys me worse is people bringing obviously purchased hacked Azumarill's (which are always shiny) to every single tera raid because they were useful for one and they can't use mom's credit card to buy anything else. So they use belly drum and are one shot. I play support and even with reflect/lightscreen active and me trying to heal them this is the case.
 
I feel your pain but it's also helpful to remember a bunch of children are playing a children's game.

What annoys me worse is people bringing obviously purchased hacked Azumarill's (which are always shiny) to every single tera raid because they were useful for one and they can't use mom's credit card to buy anything else. So they use belly drum and are one shot. I play support and even with reflect/lightscreen active and me trying to heal them this is the case.
Tera Ids are also a new concept. I still have trouble understanding how Terastalising affects the type.
Then again, I did not actually play the game. I am just doing a lot of research.
 
The Tera Raid Wall of Shame:
  • Player who brings a Pokémon strong against its normal type but walled by its tera type.
  • Player who brings a Pokémon strong against its tera type but gets nuked by its regular moves (that tera water Gengar is still packing poison moves for your grass type)
  • Player who brings a frail sweeper that dies in a single hit (the God damn cat)
The second I see someone bring Meowscarada to a six star raid I just disconnect to not waste my time. Anyway, I caught a shiny female Lechonk yesterday and I'm trying to think of a set for it. Oinkologne's stats aren't terrible but its movepool is more barren than a salted field. Anyone have any recommendations? Obviously this thing isn't competitively viable what-so-ever but maybe there's some dumb gimmick I'm not seeing.

Would the "Player who bring Shiny Pokémon just to show them off, even if it does absolutely little or nothing to the raid", also count?
 
You could, very, very easily pick out 70-120 examples of drastically underpowered Pokemon lines and start giving them the buffs they desperately need to be competitive at some level.
Regional forms should be sidegrades to existing Pokemon, imo. Not straight upgrades. Which in all fairness, Game Freak has done a good job of doing the former, for the most part
 
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