Pokémon (Not-So) Griefing Thread - Scarlet and Violet Released with 10 Million Copies in First 3 Days in Buggy States

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I’m sure this has been mentioned before but I didn’t see it in the last dozen pagers but… isn’t the dex for Arceus only like ~250?
 
I’m sure this has been mentioned before but I didn’t see it in the last dozen pagers but… isn’t the dex for Arceus only like ~250?
Yeah, its most of the sinnoh dex plus a few extras, abit on the small side
 
So guys, do you think they will abandon the new stuff going foward (lighting fast UI, pokeball throwing in the overworld, more things to movement than just walking and using bikes) and make an extremely safe gen 9, or will this be somewhat of the template for games going forward?
Who really knows? Certainly not Game Freak. It feels like the devs have insecurity issues when it comes to content game to game. When gen 5 released people bitched about the new Pokemon. Then they changed course and by gen 6 it was all nostalgia pandering. When people started bitching about the Dexit, they made the next DLC specifically to appease discontent fans. I doubt even Game Freak have confidence in this one since all the marketing has been distinctly quieter compared to previous games.
Considering Legends looks and feels like a beta test for gen 9, I think it's safe to assume this is the franchise going forward. If it's not I would be very, very surprised. They probably tested stuff and started moving onto Gen IX mid-development since Masuda's nowhere to be seen in the Legends development process.
Dude people have been saying that "this game's just the prototype for the next game" since like Sun and Moon. Pokemon Legends: Arceus officially comes out in like a week and you've already written it off as a "beta test" for the next game. You're already imagining Game Freak is going to significantly improve everything for the sequel. They have been shown doing nothing but marketing their new mons and gimmicks in their 3D games for like the past 7 years with only minimal improvements. Hopefully you won't be saying the same thing come Generation 9.
IT WOULD BE BASED AND YOU ALL FUCKING KNOW IT
If I had to speculate, my money would be on The Bahamas or some other tropical-based region. Game Freak sure like to set their games in locales where the staff would mostly likely vacation to.
Not going to lie, seeing more of the gameplay videos does leave me slightly optimistic that this will be a better experience than the past... whole bunch of games to be totally honest. I've been waffling about doing a preorder on this. I kept my preorder for SwSh despite having some huge reservations and was extremely disappointed with those titles. I skipped the DP remake for the same reason. This one looks more dynamic and fun, and looks like it is at least partially the game I was hoping SwSh would have been.
Well you can always try the "demo" and see for yourself if Masuda and company deserve your hard-earned money. What do you really have to lose? A plastic box with a download code and extra digital cosmetics for a game you haven't even played yet?
I’m sure this has been mentioned before but I didn’t see it in the last dozen pagers but… isn’t the dex for Arceus only like ~250?
I think the Dataminers have said it's closer to 230. Then again very few people have beaten the game 100% so you'll have to wait longer for an exact number
 
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Like it or not, but this is what peak team selection looks like. (jesus fuck thank god weavile is in.)
 
It really seems like you're just looking for something to complain about with the game at this point. We've already established that the graphics aren't exactly the best the Switch has to offer, but it looks like the gameplay will make up for it.
Forgive my incredulity at a 20 year old franchise that cannot and will not address mediocre design elements across games that are more or less the same each iteration. Even Mario has radically changed up the formula multiple times and it still gets more criticism than Pokemon.

This Arceus game looks absolutely mediocre and half-baked. The gameplay appears stilted and clunky, with poor animations and optimization. And the game world and the creatures within it aren't even up to the level that was promised before Sword and Shield failed to deliver. Pokemon is by and large a genre unto itself and that requires a critical approach; especially if they are going to charge $60 per game. I like Pokemon games a lot but I am not convinced that Game Freak are good developers and the results expose that time and time again.

I don't need to look for things to complain about; those things are in the pre-release press kit and it is a joke.
 
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It really seems like you're just looking for something to complain about with the game at this point. We've already established that the graphics aren't exactly the best the Switch has to offer, but it looks like the gameplay will make up for it.
I keep seeing people say this, and I just can't wrap my head around what you're seeing that I'm not. Rolling in circles around attack patterns that a 5yo wouldn't have trouble with while chucking socks does not look fun. All I've seen is people doing these mediocre boss battles and fighting random wild pokemon, it's less interesting gameplay than any prior game.
 
This Arceus game looks absolutely mediocre and half-baked. The gameplay appears stilted and clunky, with poor animations and optimization. And the game world and the creatures within it aren't even up to the level that was promised before Sword and Shield failed to deliver. Pokemon is by and large a genre unto itself and that requires a critical approach; especially if they are going to charge $60 per game. I like Pokemon games a lot but I am not convinced that Game Freak are good developers and the results expose that time and time again.

I don't need to look for things to complain about; those things are in the pre-release press kit and it is a joke.
Y'know when you use words like "looks" and "appears" when describing a video game, it's very much telling you haven't even touched the "demo" I fucking spoonfed you last night. You've already made apparent that you're not impressed with the way Game Freak is handling the series but for Christ's sake go validate those feelings by actually playing the dang game instead of coming here and needlessly bitch about it.

Speaking of playing Pokemon games, I'm like 8 hours in and all I've barely progressed the story. I've been doing nothing but fuck around the starting area catching mons. It's been a very pleasant and dare I say, fun experience so far.
 
This Arceus game looks absolutely mediocre and half-baked. The gameplay appears stilted and clunky, with poor animations and optimization. And the game world and the creatures within it aren't even up to the level that was promised before Sword and Shield failed to deliver. Pokemon is by and large a genre unto itself and that requires a critical approach; especially if they are going to charge $60 per game. I like Pokemon games a lot but I am not convinced that Game Freak are good developers and the results expose that time and time again.
Did you come to this conclusion from playing the game or are you just making assumptions based on what you see?
I don't need to look for things to complain about; those things are in the pre-release press kit and it is a joke.
If what @Toxinophile said is true, then my point still stands.
 
Did you come to this conclusion from playing the game or are you just making assumptions based on what you see?
My initial complaints from a week ago were from the new trailers and overview video. I can see these things with great accuracy because I have the experience. People hate me for my skill. Then as leaked footage began coming out a couple days ago I was able to confirm many of my concerns. And thanks to user @Toxinophile I was able to set up an emulator last night and try the leaked build out.

So yes.

I want a good reimagined Pokemon game and I wanted Arceus to be that game. But Arceus is not that game. The open-world design has ended up being a gimmick rather than a design innovation for the series. But maybe the next attempt at this will be better.
 
Every single time there is something of note happening in pokemon, this thread always gets.
1 "wow these new pokemon suck"
2 "uhm this is a triple Ayy game where are my triple Ayy graphics
3 "Typical gamefreak showing their incompetence again *smug emoji*"
4 "This is exactly what I asked for but it isnt good enough"

I dont understand how people can come in here every year and have the exact same cry every time. This isnt a new trend this has been the trend for essentially a decade at this point. Its time to face the music and just decide that pokemon is just not what you want and will never be what you want. Or not.
 
I dont understand how people can come in here every year and have the exact same cry every time. This isnt a new trend this has been the trend for essentially a decade at this point. Its time to face the music and just decide that pokemon is just not what you want and will never be what you want. Or not.
TBH shitposting is half the fun of leak season for me
Speaking of playing Pokemon games, I'm like 8 hours in and all I've barely progressed the story. I've been doing nothing but fuck around the starting area catching mons.
Glad to hear this, I'm one of those guys who likes to roam around open areas in games and waste time so hearng that makes me think that this will be my new 'tism simulator
Can't play it exactly rn because I'm an amd cuck and I don't want to fuck up my switch but will be picking it up at launch and probably not be able to be pulled from that thing on launch day
EDIT: By the way, someone combined Renegade Platinum and Following Platinum into one giga hack in their free time a week ago
Might be the definitive way to experience Gen 4 Sinnoh so give it a shot. Both make massive changes to Platinum, especially following being a massive undertaking code wise.
Was promoted by Drayanao (guy who made Renegade) and was how I found out about this patch existing
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Only down side I noticed so far being L no longer functions as an A button, at least at one point I think L=A corrected itself later on. also the pointing animation for sending following pokemon doesn't work, but that is really minor in the grand scheme of things
 
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dont understand how people can come in here every year and have the exact same cry every time. This isnt a new trend this has been the trend for essentially a decade at this point. Its time to face the music and just decide that pokemon is just not what you want and will never be what you want. Or not.
I'll take a warm and moderate stance here: Wait for someone to finish a 2D, sprite-based ROM hack version of LA.

Seriously though, don't sperg with a dude who believes Gen 1 is the peak of the series.
 
1 "wow these new pokemon suck"
These designs are the worse by far, most are completely irredeemable. I liked most pokemon through gen 8, but this is unprecedented poor design.
2 "uhm this is a triple Ayy game where are my triple Ayy graphics
What a strawman. This game doesn't even have ok graphics for an indie game. This would be an ugly game on the gamecube.
3 "Typical gamefreak showing their incompetence again *smug emoji*"
Yes, they show further incompetence with each entry. It's honestly staggering that they never fail to get worse year after year.
4 "This is exactly what I asked for but it isnt good enough"
No, it isn't. I never asked for this shit. I just want the same game over and over of at least decent quality, but that's too a high a bar
I dont understand how people can come in here every year and have the exact same cry every time. This isnt a new trend this has been the trend for essentially a decade at this point. Its time to face the music and just decide that pokemon is just not what you want and will never be what you want. Or not.
Because it gets worse every single time. Each year GF manages to lower the bar even further and old fans like me who just want even a mediocre game are disappointed in new ways each time. It's not that I hate pokemon, I still play romhacks and other creature collectors and love them. This has everything to do with us wanting quality pokemon games and gamefreak shitting it up in every conceivable way.

If it was the same mediocre shit every time I wouldn't bother commenting, but somehow they've pushed out a game so bad I honestly consider it a scam at this point. This is some next level garbage and I want to talk about that.
 
reeee I fucked it up

Yes, they show further incompetence with each entry. It's honestly staggering that they never fail to get worse year after year.
Alright then bud, then its time to come to terms and maybe move on.
No, it isn't. I never asked for this shit. I just want the same game over and over of at least decent quality, but that's too a high a bar
Dont know why you think im talking specifically to you, go cry somewhere else
Because it gets worse every single time. Each year GF manages to lower the bar even further and old fans like me who just want even a mediocre game are disappointed in new ways each time. It's not that I hate pokemon, I still play romhacks and other creature collectors and love them. This has everything to do with us wanting quality pokemon games and gamefreak shitting it up in every conceivable way.

If it was the same mediocre shit every time I wouldn't bother commenting, but somehow they've pushed out a game so bad I honestly consider it a scam at this point. This is some next level garbage and I want to talk about that.
I dont care about your sob story, maybe its time to move on, go play the romhacks and digimon.
 
Are you that sensitive that people criticizing your children's toy makes you upset?
No, I just find it sad that people will just sit and cry that this game isnt what they want every single year. Its been happening since gen 2 almost the same critiques since gen 6. How many times do they need to blatantly ignore you (and still rake in shit loads of money) before you get the hint that youre probably never gonna get whatever game youre looking for.
 
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