Pokémon (Not-So) Griefing Thread - Scarlet and Violet Released with 10 Million Copies in First 3 Days in Buggy States

[Wingnut]

Aside from being a bit slower, as well as all of the other common bugs/glitches, you sometimes get stuck in corners.

Them ghetto-rigging full axis movement yet keeping the game's strict grid based map definitely sucks. There's been more than a few times I've mistakenly jumped over a ledge on one of those single grid wide pathways along one. Sharp corners in narrow area's like the Victory Road mazes sucks too, the updated movement definitely doesn't mesh well in enclosed areas.

 

[Kari Kamiya]

Pure, wholesome art autism in the Pokémon community.

 

[RhoasJonas]

You can be locked out of Gym Leader and E4 rematches if you unlock the National Dex before the E4, the only way to fix this is by entering Rowan's Lab and leaving again after you beat the E4 to trigger the cutscene with Roark. They really didn't plan on anyone doing it before the E4.

 

[Catastrophe-TM]

So today I realised that my new phone is an Android, which has a wi-fi hotspot option you can edit. You know what this means?

I just got a legit Azure Flute in one of my copies of Pokemon Diamond. And guess what? I can also get every single other legit wi-fi exclusive event 'mons and items - meaning I can do full odds shiny hunts for Shaymin, Darkrai, Arceus and many, many more and if for some odd reason I have to transfer them there'll literally be no problems.

I literally have no reason to even give BDSP the time of day now.

How does that work exactly?

 

[Archeops]

How does that work exactly?

You basically fuck around with the game's built-in wifi options and connect to a DNS server running those events (IIRC some servers have also restored some wifi features like the GTS). The downside is that you have to use a Wi-Fi network that either has WEP security or NO security for most games (WPA wasn't fully supported until BW-BW2 and even then the option's only available to the DSi and later handhelds).

This is one of the reasons why I hate being stuck to either my at-home WiFi hotspot or the shitty, unalterable mobile hotspot my iPhone provides. I've actually been considering investing in a separate mobile hotspot for multiple reasons, the inability to set security settings on half of my easily-accessable hotspots being one of 'em.

 

[BroccoliBrain]

Someone found a locale issue with Pokémon BDSP's calculator. If the Switch's country/language is set to one that uses commas as a decimal, the calculations really bug out. (Of course, setting one to a country that uses a dot as a decimal is fine.)

Source: /r/pokemon Subreddit

calculator_locale-bug.mp4

Isn't this the most basic shit you should account for if you're programming anything you know will be released across multiple regions...

 

[Coelacanth]

How does that work exactly?

Here's a good article that goes into what you exactly have to do: https://www.shacknews.com/article/108512/how-to-unlock-gen-4-and-5-pokemon-mystery-events-in-2018

Interestingly even regional exclusive event stuff is obtainable so I can literally download pokemon that were exclusive to Japanese events and stuff. It's pretty awesome.

 

[UnsufficentBoobage]

The non Pokemon side of the genre was pretty niche in the West, I wonder which (non Pokemon) game caused it to be flooded with normies?

I think it is all SJWs in Telefang fandom's fault.

 

[SnowBall]

That’s interesting. Telefang is the last game I would have thought started this.

Also I think Digimon Cyber Sleuth and it’s sequel being ported onto the Switch shortly before SwSh was released played a huge fat hand in it too. When Dexit was revealed the games got a huge surge in popularity with stans getting super obnoxious on Twitter replying to official Pokemon tweets yelling at people to buy CS instead. The fandom grew a lot between Western Digimon fans getting into it and disgruntled Pokemon fans jumping ship. Reminds me a bit of Final Fantasy XIV getting flooded with disgruntled WoW refugees who jumped ship from WoW after getting fed up with the state of their own game.

 

[The Ultimate Ramotith]

That’s interesting. Telefang is the last game I would have thought started this.

Also I think Digimon Cyber Sleuth and it’s sequel being ported onto the Switch shortly before SwSh was released played a huge fat hand in it too. When Dexit was revealed the games got a huge surge in popularity with stans getting super obnoxious on Twitter replying to official Pokemon tweets yelling at people to buy CS instead. The fandom grew a lot between Western Digimon fans getting into it and disgruntled Pokemon fans jumping ship. Reminds me a bit of Final Fantasy XIV getting flooded with disgruntled WoW refugees who jumped ship from WoW after getting fed up with the state of their own game.

Telefang did latch on the popularity of Pokémon twice: once by being a differen take on Pokémon, once by being pirated under the guise of being a sequel of Pokémon. People were initially fooled, TRSRockin se them straight, others eventually either laughed at how messed up the text was or unironically enjoyed the games on their own terms. To nnes of Pokéfans, Telefang was their first Pokéclone, which would have had them interested in other such games.
I say there is more to Digimon than Cyber Sleuth: the people during the old Pokémon vs Digimon Fandom Rivalry (especially back when Digimon was thought o be a knockoff of Pokémon) grew up in multiple ways, most eventually embracing both and eventually branching ou t other similar games.

 

[Marissa Moira]

They really should remake Digimon World, but people just don't appreciate getting your shit pushed in to the point where you were barely able to evolve by the skin of your teeth and hitting an evolution that turns you from a weak blob into a tank (sometimes literally).

Digimon World also had the habit of making the player wander around until theyw ere lost and finally finally being strong enough or knock something over which lead to a new pathway since everything else was still blocked off. The game didn;t give that much direction.

If you're going for Monster Raising the gold standard is pokemon which much like WoW being the gold standard for MMos really boxes you in creativity. I would love a DQM game done in the same fashion that DQ11 was where you walk around gorgeous spacious environments running into enemies. But you're now asking two great feats, for westerners to turn away from pokemon and to also embrace dragon quest. Maybe it will be more realistic after 12 comes out.

 

[gaystoner]

They really should remake Digimon World, but people just don't appreciate getting your shit pushed in to the point where you were barely able to evolve by the skin of your teeth and hitting an evolution that turns you from a weak blob into a tank (sometimes literally).

Digimon World also had the habit of making the player wander around until theyw ere lost and finally finally being strong enough or knock something over which lead to a new pathway since everything else was still blocked off. The game didn;t give that much direction.

If you're going for Monster Raising the gold standard is pokemon which much like WoW being the gold standard for MMos really boxes you in creativity. I would love a DQM game done in the same fashion that DQ11 was where you walk around gorgeous spacious environments running into enemies. But you're now asking two great feats, for westerners to turn away from pokemon and to also embrace dragon quest. Maybe it will be more realistic after 12 comes out.

Digimon World : Next Order

 

[SnowBall]

Telefang did latch on the popularity of Pokémon twice: once by being a differen take on Pokémon, once by being pirated under the guise of being a sequel of Pokémon. People were initially fooled, TRSRockin se them straight, others eventually either laughed at how messed up the text was or unironically enjoyed the games on their own terms. To nnes of Pokéfans, Telefang was their first Pokéclone, which would have had them interested in other such games.
I say there is more to Digimon than Cyber Sleuth: the people during the old Pokémon vs Digimon Fandom Rivalry (especially back when Digimon was thought o be a knockoff of Pokémon) grew up in multiple ways, most eventually embracing both and eventually branching ou t other similar games.

I know about Telefang’s history but I thought most people eventually remembered it as nothing more than it being passed off as a legitimate Pokemon game back in the day by bootleggers.

And yeah I am definitely aware of there being more to Digimon than Cyber Sleuth, being a fan of Digimon games for years. When I’m talking about Digimon I more mean people getting into the series itself, then being exposed to other monster games.

I bring CS up a lot because prior to it the gaming side of the Digimon fandom never got anywhere near as much attention as other parts of the series like the anime and v pets. This was mostly due to the games being extremely obscure and lacking a consistent identity. The first four Digimon World Digimon World games were wildly different from each other. One was a v pet simulator, Two was a dungeon crawler, Three was a traditional jrpg, Four was an action rpg, etc. There was also a long period of time where games never left Japan. Cyber Sleuth is one of the first games in years to get a lot of attention from people outside the fanbase due to it being ported to Switch and word of mouth.

 

[Disc]

Cyber Sleuth is a good game but too many really bizarre choices stop it from being a great one. Perhaps the most glaring one to me was that the real world tokyo has no background music until things go pear shaped, and even then it's just some generic stuff. It made the world feel so empty.

I mean, you're getting the guy who composed Danganronpa's music, and the EDF 5 Music, but you're just letting him give you his Dangan rejects and not even getting a song for half the overworld?

Not to mention all the dungeons are just the same fucking thing, over and over. Persona 5 came out a year later, but it feels like it came out a decade later for how much better it handled both tokyo and it's other world.

 

[RhoasJonas]

Cyber Sleuth is a good game but too many really bizarre choices stop it from being a great one. Perhaps the most glaring one to me was that the real world tokyo has no background music until things go pear shaped, and even then it's just some generic stuff. It made the world feel so empty.

I mean, you're getting the guy who composed Danganronpa's music, and the EDF 5 Music, but you're just letting him give you his Dangan rejects and not even getting a song for half the overworld?

Not to mention all the dungeons are just the same fucking thing, over and over. Persona 5 came out a year later, but it feels like it came out a decade later for how much better it handled both tokyo and it's other world.

Hackers Memory also specifically requires NG+ if you want to max your Hacker Rank because it doesn't give you enough side quests to do it in one run.

 

[Leaf Wage Slave]

Hackers Memory also specifically requires NG+ if you want to max your Hacker Rank because it doesn't give you enough side quests to do it in one run.

I mean, that one depends just how much you like farming Investigate for Team Fights - considering how 90% of that game is grinding to Digivolve and raise your AP to unlock better Digivolutions, might as well kill two birds with one stone and grind out both.

 

[RhoasJonas]

I mean, that one depends just how much you like farming Investigate for Team Fights - considering how 90% of that game is grinding to Digivolve and raise your AP to unlock better Digivolutions, might as well kill two birds with one stone and grind out both.

I was talking mostly in the sense of 100% completion, there's really no other need to NG+ and slog through the unskippable cutscenes except and only for the Max Hacker Rank, even moreso because you didn't have to do it CS. In terms of grinding you should only ever do the PlatinumNumemon strategy to save yourself from going off the deep end farming EXP.

 

[Scarlett Johansson]

I did not play the originals. Do Jynx and Ninetails show up? And do they follow you on the map because I loved that in HG/SS.

And dare I ask if npc dialogue is still dumbed down pointless 'do this next' advice type stuff?

 

[A Widdle Woach]

I did not play the originals. Do Jynx and Ninetails show up? And do they follow you on the map because I loved that in HG/SS.

And dare I ask if npc dialogue is still dumbed down pointless 'do this next' advice type stuff?

I think ninetales is pearl exclusive, Pokémon will follow you after a certain point but from what I’ve seen it’s buggy and laggy as hell.

But I don’t actually have the games so take that with a grain of salt

 

[Archeops]

I did not play the originals. Do Jynx and Ninetails show up? And do they follow you on the map because I loved that in HG/SS.

And dare I ask if npc dialogue is still dumbed down pointless 'do this next' advice type stuff?

Jynx isn't catchable as-is but Smoochum is available as a Rare Spawn in the Grand Underground section under Celestic Town (it's catchable in all three of its Pokemon Hideaways and becomes more common once you get the National Dex), Ninetails/Vulpix are kind of in the same boat (base form is only available in the Grand Underground) only they're Shimmering Pearl-exclusive and only become available as a normal spawn once you get the National Dex.

Following Pokemon is enabled after visit Amity Park for the first time, but as @A Widdle Woach mentioned it has its issues.

AFAIK the NPC dialogue is roughly the same as it was in DPPt, the only difference is that you have a little blurb in the pause screen and map telling you where you need to go and the latter section also having a flag telling you the general location of where you need to be.