Pokémon (Not-So) Griefing Thread - Scarlet and Violet Released with 10 Million Copies in First 3 Days in Buggy States

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Nauseated Courgi said:
I don't get all the hate for Regieleki and Drago (I understand the critique however).

Sure, they could have gone in a different direction for those two.

Sure, they could have not made the two other regional legends be Regis.

But two silly looking Regis does not represent anything wrong with the new pokemon games and quite frankly something as subjective as pokemon designs shouldn't be something you point to if you want to talk about what's wrong with modern pokemon.

How can dragon type pokemon summon meteors or use a move called "dragon pulse"? It implies that dragon-types have this kind of energy to them that hasn't been fully explored with Regidrago being a physical manifestation of it.
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I disagree I think it points to a fundimental misunderstanding of the design philosophy that made the previous games good, it's just one example out of many mind you. But like I said in my post I think it's one of the clear cut examples of the new game freak not getting why old game freak did something.

I think the games have been lazy half finished messes since X and Y I think the move to 3D has done nothing but hurt the franchise and I think that they need to go back to their roots and play some older JRPG's like Dragon quest or the NES FF's to try and get a feel for what's missing from their new titles.
 
Bookmark Cuck said:
I disagree I think it points to a fundimental misunderstanding of the design philosophy that made the previous games good, it's just one example out of many mind you. But like I said in my post I think it's one of the clear cut examples of the new game freak not getting why old game freak did something.

I think the games have been lazy half finished messes since X and Y I think the move to 3D has done nothing but hurt the franchise and I think that they need to go back to their roots and play some older JRPG's like Dragon quest or the NES FF's to try and get a feel for what's missing from their new titles.
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I see where you're coming from, but I still disagree. Game Freak and pokemon wasn't going to stay the way it was years ago forever and, in regards to the pokemon design philosophy, styles change. Going back to their roots could do Game Freak some good, but that's what they do for the remakes and the recent one from what I heard is terribly mediocre at best.

Their issue, imo, isn't the fact that they jumped to 3D in the first place, but the fact they aren't doing anything incredibly interesting with this new direction for the franchise (along with the issues on the technical side and so on, but that's it's own can of worms). Which is a major part of why I'm looking forward with they do with PL:A.

The reason why I say pointing to pokemon designs as an issue with modern pokemon isn't valid is because that isn't an issue and is more a matter of opinion. You may hate some of the modern pokemon designs while I and many others may feel the opposite.
 
Massively Strong Greed said:
Gonna be honest, I didn’t like the original Distortion World all that much aside from the music. It just felt like a waste of time and the “wacky” shit happening wasn’t all that interesting to me.
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I just can't believe they didn't include it in BD/SP to get a more fuller 3D environment of the Distortion World. What a fucking waste, that was the only reason I was all for the D/P remakes.
 
We were robbed. (:_(

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Oh, and these art books are version exclusive, too.
 
Focken Kiwi said:
If you need a trading partner, let me know. I'm probably going to want to complete the Pokedex for this game for some post game shiny hunts. It seems like the shiny charm only effects eggs this game.
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Poké Radar is still worth it, you can get a shiny chance as high as 1/50.
 
Well I picked up a copy of both Brilliant Diamond and Shimmering Pearl (I have a regular Switch and a Lite and I’m not a big fan of trading) earlier and so far…

I’m not hating it but I’m not loving it either, it’s another SwSh for me.

I’ve reached Eterna City and I’m basically bumming it out in the Grand Underground, it’s one of the few upgrades to the original DS titles.
 
Massively Strong Greed said:
There is no justification. Just like how there’s none for why you can’t change the nickname on a traded Pokémon.
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At least newer games allow you to turn off nicknames(As in, no nicknames will display in the battle interface even if they have one). Still not the same, like at all, but it's better than it was previously
 
Lapis Lazuli said:
a weird dragon jaw thing who happens to be shaped after Charizard
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I am all for "less Charizard" approach, but Aerodactyl and few earlier "dragons"* were two-prong-horned specifically due to
Bookmark Cuck said:
Dragon quest
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as it is one of the things they were explicitly homaging.

*I am still a believer in type itself being last second thing, so I am talking designs
 
Bookmark Cuck said:
TL;DR: The new regis are the prefect example of everything wrong with the new pokemon games.
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Bookmark Cuck said:
I disagree I think it points to a fundimental misunderstanding of the design philosophy that made the previous games good, it's just one example out of many mind you. But like I said in my post I think it's one of the clear cut examples of the new game freak not getting why old game freak did something.
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I say I disagree with the notion that Gamefreak mons design I think those are there strong suits.
I agree that Gamefreak been pretty lacking in there game making but on there pokemon design there quite good also what Corgi said
Nauseated Courgi said:
I see where you're coming from, but I still disagree. Game Freak and pokemon wasn't going to stay the way it was years ago forever and, in regards to the pokemon design philosophy, styles change. Going back to their roots could do Game Freak some good, but that's what they do for the remakes and the recent one from what I heard is terribly mediocre at best.

Their issue, imo, isn't the fact that they jumped to 3D in the first place, but the fact they aren't doing anything incredibly interesting with this new direction for the franchise (along with the issues on the technical side and so on, but that's it's own can of worms). Which is a major part of why I'm looking forward with they do with PL:A.

The reason why I say pointing to pokemon designs as an issue with modern pokemon isn't valid is because that isn't an issue and is more a matter of opinion. You may hate some of the modern pokemon designs while I and many others may feel the opposite.
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Nauseated Courgi said:
I don't get all the hate for Regieleki and Drago (I understand the critique however).

Sure, they could have gone in a different direction for those two.

Sure, they could have not made the two other regional legends be Regis.

But two silly looking Regis does not represent anything wrong with the new pokemon games and quite frankly something as subjective as pokemon designs shouldn't be something you point to if you want to talk about what's wrong with modern pokemon.

How can dragon type pokemon summon meteors or use a move called "dragon pulse"? It implies that dragon-types have this kind of energy to them that hasn't been fully explored with Regidrago being a physical manifestation of it.
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But also I may ask what other examples that you think they misunderstand.
 
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✨ Yawning Cockatiel ✨ said:
We were robbed. (:_(

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Oh, and these art books are version exclusive, too.
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Wow fuck that is super sad that they couldn't bother to make the game look like these awesome pictures. Those are basically the experience that everyone wants, but they keep releasing shit.

Are these remakes worth it? I'm on the fence about picking one up. I enjoyed Pearl on the DS when it came out. From the sound of it, they're basically... the same game with no changes beyond the mechanical updates that have occurred over the years. I don't really see the point of them since it doesn't seem like they're doing anything different that wasn't present on the original DS relase.

SwSh were a huge turnoff for me - unfinished, buggy, clearly very sloppy work. After that, I decided I'm not going to pre-order any more pokemon games again. Is this just more of the same?
 
UnsufficentBoobage said:
I am all for "less Charizard" approach, but Aerodactyl and few earlier "dragons"* were two-prong-horned specifically due to

as it is one of the things they were explicitly homaging.

*I am still a believer in type itself being last second thing, so I am talking designs
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Hell, instead of "dragon energy", Regidraco could've been made out of fossils.
 
The pokemon series was heading in a good direction during 5th gen. Now look at the series, all the remakes that used to be phenomenal and were the definitive versions are now half-assed, and BD and SP take the cake. How are you able to make a remake look worse than a dated ds game locked at 30fps with no anti aliasing. Gamefreak is just a company that is out to please its share holders now, they don't make games anymore just products.
 
Questionable Ceviche said:
Wow fuck that is super sad that they couldn't bother to make the game look like these awesome pictures. Those are basically the experience that everyone wants, but they keep releasing shit.

Are these remakes worth it? I'm on the fence about picking one up. I enjoyed Pearl on the DS when it came out. From the sound of it, they're basically... the same game with no changes beyond the mechanical updates that have occurred over the years. I don't really see the point of them since it doesn't seem like they're doing anything different that wasn't present on the original DS relase.

SwSh were a huge turnoff for me - unfinished, buggy, clearly very sloppy work. After that, I decided I'm not going to pre-order any more pokemon games again. Is this just more of the same?
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Looks like it, yes. People will give the games passes if they make it easier to hunt shinies.
 
Jinmen said:
Looks like it, yes. People will give the games passes if they make it easier to hunt shinies.
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We have now reached Generation XVI of Pokémon...

"Well, the game's story is totally non-existent. I think they added like 10 new Pokémon, and not including the starters, that means only 1... There are also no cool mini games, and battles are so streamlined, I swear the game plays itself at times...

But golly, the shiny odds are 1/1500! Can't forget about the 30 new methods to find shinies now, and the existing ones from past generations are improved!"

Are we heading towards Shiny Hunting Simulator?
 
Alleviate said:
The pokemon series was heading in a good direction during 5th gen. Now look at the series, all the remakes that used to be phenomenal and were the definitive versions are now half-assed, and BD and SP take the cake. How are you able to make a remake look worse than a dated ds game locked at 30fps with no anti aliasing. Gamefreak is just a company that is out to please its share holders now, they don't make games anymore just products.
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You can probably thank the Pokemon Company for that. Game Freak isn't absolved of negligence at all, but their products would probably have a better turnaround if TPCi didn't rush them more and more in recent years.
 
I will get hate for this for being a boomer but the series absolutely peaked with B/W2, maybe even earlier. I loved the spritework and the extra shit in those games. XY barely had any content, Sun/Moon were a bit better, I liked some of the designs at least and it did try something new I guess which is worth giving credit. Sword/Shield was just bad.

With each game they make it easier to hunt shinies and breed a team of competitive pokemon but thats it. The games prior to XY had fun single player content. I know lots of people hate gen 5 so ill get dislikes/disagreements here. The routes are such a joke in SH/SW too, jesus christ just straight lines with a few diverging paths for items. The new games just steamroll you on a path to endgame which is just breeding/shiny hunting. My favorite part of that game was the final gym leader. Guzma was cool too in the previous gen.


I want to replay gen 4 and 5 but there's no way to trade between emulators is there? Wish someone would make hacks of the older games where you didn't have to do trade evolutions.
 
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starborn427614 said:
You can probably thank the Pokemon Company for that. Game Freak isn't absolved of negligence at all, but their products would probably have a better turnaround if TPCi didn't rush them more and more in recent years.
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They should have just stuck to making spinoffs between mainline releases
Whats the last pokemon spinoff that wasn't fucking gacha/chink pandering
Pokepark and pokken?
 
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