Pokémon (Not-So) Griefing Thread - Scarlet and Violet Released with 10 Million Copies in First 3 Days in Buggy States

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Social Media just won’t stop hyping up Ash’s Mega Lucario.

Jeez, why wasn’t there a single rally call for this when Mega Evolution was actually new?
Because nobody thought it was a real gimmick until it was revealed exactly what it was. I think the 16th Pokémon movie hurt the reveal, if you ask me, because Mega Mewtwo Y is pretty fugly, and when the Corocoro leaks happened showing Mega Mewtwo Y on the poster, everyone thought it was a bad Photoshop. Pokémon: The Origin showcased it better, but for some of us, it was too late.
 
Im talking about braviary, and wydeer being psychic
now growlithe and this are both rock.
two of the first alolan forms revealed to us were Ice Types.

Honestly, I'm not too fussed about a couple of overlaps. Without seeing the full picture, we really don't have any reason to assume a type is flooded, and I imagine that them redoing DP right now has type frequencies on their mind.

...I cannot help but keep looking a that middle rock from Kleavor's head.
I think it's based on a mix between a samurai topknot and prehistoric stone spear tips.
 
Kleavor's head is ugly, I preferred Scyther's dragonic snoot.
Why is my nice murder bug forever receiving downgrade evolutions (Scizor stans DNI).
 
Yeah, we do have an alphabet soup character.


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But on a slightly more serious note, let's go over what the article is asking for.

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Sorry, non-binary Pokemon? As in, not male, and not female? ... Are you serious? Hey, remember that joke answer, unown? It's non-binary! It's literally genderless, how can you get any more non than the absence of? You're right article, that is a child's plea, because that child can't comprehend what they're asking about.

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There are actually not one, but two trainers that are ambiguously gendered, and have popular theories about them being trans. Lorelei and Will are debatable, even though it's a popular theory, but you can't not mention Bugsy.

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His in-game data "mistakenly" refers to him as a girl, and it's kind of his only personality trait that he looks like a girl, to the point of Gold in Adventures asking him out on a date. Now maybe that's not extremely blatant, but why would it be? Do they want a character to spot you on the road and go "Hey there, I'm a Pokemon trainer! By the way, I'm ftm transgender."? I would think the best way to introduce a transgender or non-binary character in Pokemon is to just... not mention it? I thought the point of being trans is that people don't know you're trans, that they automatically assume that you're the gender you identify as. Probably not the thread for this talk.

...Still! Non-binary Pokemon? They can literally be genderless! What more do you want?! A Tauros to cut his dick off? A Jynx to be able to be found as genderless and unbreedable?
SO a game based on Darwinian evolution with literal inheritable genetic stats for how good the pokemon is, needs genderless pokemon because...... How is it that "science" and society has completely lost the objective reality that different reproductive organs exist and male and female refer to that observable distinction. A penis and vagina are not on a spectrum. There is not a spectrum of reproductive functionality. (Love pleasure etc are an anomaly and can be considered inefficient evolution or just plain false as they are societal creations) Just because clownfish or whatever can become male doesnt mean little Timmy can be Tiffany. Different creatures different observable conditions. We refer to people in masculine or feminine ways because we humans at this point in history dont walk around with our genitals out (oh wait lgbt weirdos do at pride parades and are still confused). I honestly dont understand the end goal of this stuff what does a non-binary Pikachu even fucking mean? A messed up vagina dick? And you cant say anything about gender because there is no Pikachu society to begin with. Its insane. A complete amorphous reproductive responding creature already exists in Pokémon. What more than ditto do these people want? Its because ditto doesn't actively break what is considered social barriers? Does trans Pikachu need to go into the female side of the daycare? Its so ridiculous and I wish it would stop. Sorry for the rant
 
Because nobody thought it was a real gimmick until it was revealed exactly what it was. I think the 16th Pokémon movie hurt the reveal, if you ask me, because Mega Mewtwo Y is pretty fugly, and when the Corocoro leaks happened showing Mega Mewtwo Y on the poster, everyone thought it was a bad Photoshop. Pokémon: The Origin showcased it better, but for some of us, it was too late.

“A bad photoshop” perfectly describes Mega Evolution. They really could have salvaged the idea for the anime if they just let Mr “Pokémon Master” use it with at least one of his many Pokémon who deserve using it (Charizard, Sceptile and Glalie to start with).
 
I can see them doing a separate special à la Mega Evolution where there'll be like four episodes or so for Legends. But to do time travel shenanigans, they'll have to bug Celebi for it, and why the hell would Celebi want to take someone to ancient Sinnoh unless it's to explain the Sinjoh Ruins? Dialga might have time-traveling abilities, too, but I don't know why anyone would try to bother with Dialga again after what happened with Cyrus.

They might as well just stick to spin-off specials when it comes to things like this.
With the fact that Arceus Legends is based in Sinnoh I could easily see a spin-off movie with Ash involving Dialga time travel to ancient Jubilife.

I don't know if the previous movies involving Arceus, Dialga, and Palkia will be relevant. I've never religiously followed the Pokemon anime after my childhood, are the movies supposed to be canon, or are they generally considered to never have happened in regards to the main series?
 
With the fact that Arceus Legends is based in Sinnoh I could easily see a spin-off movie with Ash involving Dialga time travel to ancient Jubilife.

I don't know if the previous movies involving Arceus, Dialga, and Palkia will be relevant. I've never religiously followed the Pokemon anime after my childhood, are the movies supposed to be canon, or are they generally considered to never have happened in regards to the main series?
To my knowledge, the latter.
 
I don't know if the previous movies involving Arceus, Dialga, and Palkia will be relevant. I've never religiously followed the Pokemon anime after my childhood, are the movies supposed to be canon, or are they generally considered to never have happened in regards to the main series?
There's an argument that Rise of Darkrai (probably my favorite of the D/P movies tbh) is canon because it's where Dawn got the Lunar Wing that was then used in the anime proper, but honestly, I think the first movie is the only movie that is truly canon given that the anime actually built up to that movie. The 16th movie is also almost canon due to the Genesect, but plans for Best Wishes involving stuff like Plasma vs Rocket got fucked due to the earthquake, and the movie's plans also were getting fucked due to anime Mewtwo being copyrighted to Takeshi Shudo's estate they couldn't get the rights to for a while. The second Mewtwo (a.k.a. Newtwo) was supposed to be the original Mewtwo, but they were forced to rewrite the character at the literal last minute, which caused a snarl in Mewtwo's lore that I think I've already sperged on before in the past.

But the D/P movies minus the Zoroark movie are the only movies that are an actual trilogy, one that leads into the other. It's kinda interesting, not gonna lie, but I think Rise of Darkrai was the better of the three. Giratina and the Sky Warrior would've been really good for Giratina alone if it wasn't for the fact Shaymin is a fucking bitch throughout the movie and not in a good way, I thought. Legit keeps me from getting the movie on DVD, she's the Sonic to my Eggman.
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Don't let this face fool you, she's a snooty cunt.
 
I really like Kleavor. I like all of the Hisuian Pokemon that have been revealed so far actually. It feels like some of these designs are too cool to just be confined to one spinoff game. I'd honestly be fine with Game Freak just shoehorning them into SwSh in an update even if it doesn't make chronological sense. Just bring back that old time machine technology they invented to explain how you transferred your Mons from RBY to GSC.
 
Speaking of the movies, my favorite Pokémon movie is still, to this day, 4ever. I think the concept of time travel is very cool, if still complicated. But they simplified it and tied it up pretty nicely. Oak also being one of the heroes and seeing him when he was younger, and the world was too, was interesting.

It does bring up some pretty odd questions for me, like how or why the Wind-Up Heavy Balls were phased out, or how Oak doesn’t remember or recognize generation 2 Pokémon until much later (despite meeting them as a kid).

I think a nice detail I remember is that when they get back, oak has the sketch he made in the forest with ash all those decades later. There’s something kind of mind blowing and sweet about it, he waited for his friend for probably half of his life or more, ready to give him that pikachu that saved his life and saved the world.

Yes, I am dramatically biased since it was my first Pokémon movie on VHS.
 
Speaking of the movies, my favorite Pokémon movie is still, to this day, 4ever. I think the concept of time travel is very cool, if still complicated. But they simplified it and tied it up pretty nicely. Oak also being one of the heroes and seeing him when he was younger, and the world was too, was interesting.

It does bring up some pretty odd questions for me, like how or why the Wind-Up Heavy Balls were phased out, or how Oak doesn’t remember or recognize generation 2 Pokémon until much later (despite meeting them as a kid).

I think a nice detail I remember is that when they get back, oak has the sketch he made in the forest with ash all those decades later. There’s something kind of mind blowing and sweet about it, he waited for his friend for probably half of his life or more, ready to give him that pikachu that saved his life and saved the world.

Yes, I am dramatically biased since it was my first Pokémon movie on VHS.
The first movie really hit me in the feels as a kid, and the turn to stone scene is pretty impactful when you don't see Ash basically dying coming. Though I'll always be partial to Pokemon The Movie 2000 because I remember going to see it in the theater with my little brother and getting the promo cards of the legendary birds and Ancient Mew.
 
I have bias towards the first movie as well if only because Mewtwo and nostalgia power, but I really like Spell of the Unown, Pokémon Heroes, and Lucario and the Mystery of Mew. Heroes is a weird one, though, because it doesn't have that deep of a plot compared to the other two, but Altomare was just such a nice place (being based off of Venice doesn't hurt), and Latios and Latias were really amazing non-telepath Legendaries, oh, and Annie and Oakley were pretty fun. Also I think was the second Pokémon movie I cried over outside of the first film, like holy shit.

Lucario was mostly just because of Mew and I love Mew to death, but there was some really cool lore introduced that I'm a sucker for, and Lucario wasn't that bad in the movie for a non-Legendary. And of course, it was the last time the original 4KIDS dub actors were in it together, so there's some sentimentality to it.

Spell of the Unown I think is the only movie where Ash in a fit of rage drove the plot through walls and kept going due to how extremely personal the events were for him. 2000 had him just kinda be dragged/stumbled into the role of a hero, but in the third film, he actively chose the role if just to get his mom back and fought his way through. Molly being the antagonist makes her one of the most interesting characters of the series, and I'm still debating on who's more tragic, her or Mewtwo. Oh, and Entei was fucking amazing despite being a figment of her imagination. Maybe I cried over him in the theater, I don't remember. Maybe it was my friend who did.

Pleasant surprises were Temple of the Sea, Rise of Darkrai, Diancie and the Cocoon of Destruction, and The Power of Us. There were also the split Pokémon Black and White movies, but it still baffles me they ended up doing that. If I had to pick a favorite of the two, it was the Zekrom one, and I think it's just because Zekrom is cool, and he's so cool that even the manga adaptation had to go with that one.
 
I have bias towards the first movie as well if only because Mewtwo and nostalgia power, but I really like Spell of the Unown, Pokémon Heroes, and Lucario and the Mystery of Mew. Heroes is a weird one, though, because it doesn't have that deep of a plot compared to the other two, but Altomare was just such a nice place (being based off of Venice doesn't hurt), and Latios and Latias were really amazing non-telepath Legendaries, oh, and Annie and Oakley were pretty fun. Also I think was the second Pokémon movie I cried over outside of the first film, like holy shit.

Lucario was mostly just because of Mew and I love Mew to death, but there was some really cool lore introduced that I'm a sucker for, and Lucario wasn't that bad in the movie for a non-Legendary. And of course, it was the last time the original 4KIDS dub actors were in it together, so there's some sentimentality to it.

Spell of the Unown I think is the only movie where Ash in a fit of rage drove the plot through walls and kept going due to how extremely personal the events were for him. 2000 had him just kinda be dragged/stumbled into the role of a hero, but in the third film, he actively chose the role if just to get his mom back and fought his way through. Molly being the antagonist makes her one of the most interesting characters of the series, and I'm still debating on who's more tragic, her or Mewtwo. Oh, and Entei was fucking amazing despite being a figment of her imagination. Maybe I cried over him in the theater, I don't remember. Maybe it was my friend who did.

Pleasant surprises were Temple of the Sea,
I don't remember Temple of the Sea that well, but I think that was the last movie I seen, I adored all the ones leading up to it for sure. I'll be honest, the movies slap. For whatever reason they really do step up their game, I'll always remember this specific part from Temple of the Sea just because they really fleshed out what what would be like to live in the pokemon world. Like, using psychic pokemon to to make water float and use it for a mid-air water show? Hell fucking yeah, they need to add more creative shit like this just in general and show types actually interacting in game.

 
Lucario was mostly just because of Mew and I love Mew to death, but there was some really cool lore introduced that I'm a sucker for, and Lucario wasn't that bad in the movie for a non-Legendary. And of course, it was the last time the original 4KIDS dub actors were in it together, so there's some sentimentality to it.
Sucks that it gets memed on hard today because of it was the inception of the "Regi noises." However, I liked their dynamic as the antibodies of the Tree of Life, horrifying as those things were, JFC.

The movie also had those touching Sir Aaron moments (for a kid, at least).
 
Sucks that it gets memed on hard today because of it was the inception of the "Regi noises." However, I liked their dynamic as the antibodies of the Tree of Life, horrifying as those things were, JFC.
That it took people this long to realize how silly/awesome the Regi cries are I guess is a testament to the power of boredom, but if it gets more folks looking into the movie, I can't complain. But oh yeah, the Tree of Beginning is like some kind of cosmic horror or something, like why the fuck does this thing exist in the Pokémon world to begin with? Does Mew ever get to leave, or is this individual forever stuck there? What happen to intruders who get swallowed up by the antibodies, they die, right? Suffocation, or by being digested alive by the antibodies? Why did the Tree create guardians in the form of the Regis? Is that where the Golems actually came from, from the people of Sinnoh/Hoenn building them out of respect for the Tree or something?

Fuck, man, this thing is scary, but I can't help adoring the setting of it.
 
I really like Kleavor. I like all of the Hisuian Pokemon that have been revealed so far actually. It feels like some of these designs are too cool to just be confined to one spinoff game. I'd honestly be fine with Game Freak just shoehorning them into SwSh in an update even if it doesn't make chronological sense. Just bring back that old time machine technology they invented to explain how you transferred your Mons from RBY to GSC.
The axe one feels like it could've been an unused Sw/Sh design. Honestly, the designs I'm seeing so far mesh very well with sw/sh, I look forward to seeing more.
 
I really like Kleavor. I like all of the Hisuian Pokemon that have been revealed so far actually. It feels like some of these designs are too cool to just be confined to one spinoff game. I'd honestly be fine with Game Freak just shoehorning them into SwSh in an update even if it doesn't make chronological sense. Just bring back that old time machine technology they invented to explain how you transferred your Mons from RBY to GSC.
Well there’s a fucking smartphone in ancient Japan, so…
 
I think the hype for Ash’s Lucario is because in the movies, Ash was revealed to be descended/reincarnation of a legendary hero tied to Lucario who could also wield Aura. So I’d imagine the hype is lore-related.
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And I also really like the new Scyther evolution, and can see the design inspirations.
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