Pokémon (Not-So) Griefing Thread - Scarlet and Violet Released with 10 Million Copies in First 3 Days in Buggy States

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For a second there you got my hopes up only to dash them.
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Considering Steven got rid of Metagross in favor of Alola Sandslash, it's safe to say either the makers of this game don't really care about continuity, GameFreak is making them push Alola for whatever reason, or both.
It's not that. It's this thing in the game where they have the trainers put on alternate outfits and change their pokemon along with it. They even offer an in-universe reason for the outfit and partner change. For example, when a character puts on a "Sygna Suit" it's shown as a sign that the trainer is "getting serious".

Before Summer Steven and and Sygna Suit Cynthia there was Brock, who went from his usual Gym leader clothes with his Onyx to his Sygna suit with Tyranitar:

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And with Elesa she went to her Gym leader get up and Zebstrika to her Sygna suit and Rotom:

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The Alolan partner pokemon are (at least for Steven) pretty much to coincide with the fact that it's the summer season.
 
Considering Steven got rid of Metagross in favor of Alola Sandslash, it's safe to say either the makers of this game don't really care about continuity, GameFreak is making them push Alola for whatever reason, or both.
I feel like it's worth pointing out that these are specifically for variant versions of trainers - the 'main' versions have the signatures you'd expect. Happens all the time in gacha games, where a character with a particular signature weapon or something will switch to a different one for their alt variants.
 
Trumpets.
Serious answer is that I think both are equally great for me, but I give III 2 bonus points for having more designs I liked and because I liked some of the mechanics it introduced which were hardly ever used again outside of remakes (secret bases, contests, poffins, Nincada's method of evolution, more diving options, etc). But that's not saying 5's designs are shit, by no means (except Keldeo and Beartic, fuck 'em), in fact it has some of the best designs in the series, but some in Gen III really clicked way more for me.
Also if we're gonna gonna go into details on the "whys", what's your reasoning?
 
Trumpets.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=SAjRuGdXeOESerious answer is that I think both are equally great for me, but I give III 2 bonus points for having more designs I liked and because I liked some of the mechanics it introduced which were hardly ever used again outside of remakes (secret bases, contests, poffins, Nincada's method of evolution, more diving options, etc). But that's not saying 5's designs are shit, by no means (except Keldeo and Beartic, fuck 'em), in fact it has some of the best designs in the series, but some in Gen III really clicked way more for me.
Also if we're gonna gonna go into details on the "whys", what's your reasoning?
Well, for me, I think Gen V overall is the best gen because I think they just about reached the peak for everything in the series. The story, the music (THE FUCKING MUSIC), the unique gameplay, fun gyms, actually well-developed characters, good challenge, and just fucking everything. It actually felt as if Gen V gave the series its all. It feels like there was a lot of care and thought put into what was essentially a soft reboot of Gen I. It's the perfect Pokemon game for RPG perusers such as myself who want a good game for story and gameplay. Gen III is pretty great, but for me, it didn't have as strong of a story as I would've wanted in a Pokemon game and it needed more oomph in some areas (rivals suck).
 
Tier list for me:
5 > 3 + ORAS > 1 & 2 > Ultra 7 > 4 > 8 > XY > 7

Had to distinguish X and Y from ORAS because ORAS is actually really good, even if they threw out Emerald's upgrades in the remake.

Same with Ultra Sun and Moon, normal Sun and Moon should have never existed and the Ultra versions should have been the only Gen 7 games. The only reason X&Y is above Sun and Moon is the addition of Fairy types and much needed competitive changes that made competitive accessible.

Gen 8 also has some nice competitive changes like X&Y and as much as I miss the Pokemon from dexit I'm happy not to see Landorus T and Tapus every battle. Crown Tundra meta is going to suck again because of them.
 
Here's mine:
4 > 3 > 2 > 5 > 7 > 1 > 6 > 8

I tend to take the spin-offs into consideration for each gen as well.
4 was the one I had the most enjoyment of all, I actually enjoyed D/P when I played it, back then I didn't care about how slow it was, but Platinum went and not only fixed everything, but made it even better (Cyrus also isn't an absolute retard who seems to not even know the Lake Trio can stop one of the Creation Trio when they're alone, in Platinum, plus the fact all seems lost until Giratina arrives is fantastic in my opinion). HG/SS were the pinnacle of Pokémon for me, as well, so I can't put 4 anywhere but the top. The spin-offs were also some of the best the franchise ever had, with PMD2, Ranger 2 and 3, PBR, and PokéPark Wii.

3 and 2 are close together, and they're up there because I think they're both great in how they play, plus the music is wonderful in both, and I guess some of it can be attributed to nostalgia as well, but 3 includes a bunch of my favourite Pokémon, more than 2, and 2 is somewhat overshadowed by the fact HG/SS exists. Crystal is still one of the best, though. The spin-offs were also fantastic, with 2 having Puzzle Challenge and Stadium 2, and 3 having the Orre games, PMD, Ranger, Pinball R/S, and Trozei.

I actually had a bit of a hateboner for 5, up until I replayed it a couple of years ago, not for any reason like the lack of older gen Pokémon, or the story, but mainly because I think I burnt myself out while grinding in B/W on like... My third playthrough close after its release. I have no idea why, especially since I was incredibly hyped before its release, it was really stupid. I've only replayed B/W so far, and while I liked it, it hasn't overtaken the top 3 yet (which is odd since it gave me my favourite PokéGirl of all when I first played it, too, and B2/W2 made her even better). However, grinding in gen 5 (or at least in B/W) is really painful, so there's that. The spin-offs are another reason why I put 5 lower than the top 3, they just weren't that great, especially PMD Gates and PokéPark Wii 2, but Rumble Blast was pretty good.

I actually liked the gen 7 games (let's not talk about Let's Go, even if it's technically gen 7, sadly), that's why I have it above the last 3. I really liked a lot of the designs, I liked the Totem Pokémon idea, and one thing that really stands out is the fact that the game has some difficulty for once. After the disaster that was gen 6, the games really needed difficulty, and when I have Hala in US/UM almost beating my ass because my team is half Dark-Type, or Guzma in Po Town actually beating me down with his Masquerain and Pinsir, or a few of the Totems beating me in both games, it was a welcome change for me. Sadly 7 doesn't really have spin-offs at all, except the abortions that were Rumble Rush and Quest.

The last three should be obvious, I only have 6 above 8 because, while both were disastrous generations, ORAS exists, and even though it was a poor remake after the bar they set with HG/SS, it's still better than the fiasco that is Sw/Sh. X/Y is better as well, in a way, but the fact Game Freak left so much to be desired from that gen through skipping to gen 7 a couple of years later leaves a very sour taste in my mouth. As for spin-offs while 6 had Battle Trozei, Super PMD and Pokkén for good ones, Shuffle and Rumble World were absolutely terrible.
 
Time for a fun story. You know a game that isn’t talked about much? Hey You, Pikachu!

I just came from a Used Game Store I go to since I moved to Florida. Part of my haul included a VRU so I can use the game and my sister could play it, as she has fond memories and likes playing N64 sometimes.

Contrary to popular belief, Pikachu was answering fine to my naturally deep voice. It was going good getting Bulbasaur’s ingredients, but the damndest thing happened.

I got an error handle screen on my old hardware

And I assure you the system is still on. I thought I did get the red light of the system on frame.
 

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Bought pokemon shield and liked it until I beat the game 20 minutes later. I kinda want to try Let's Go Eeevee because of nostalgia but I'll probably just feel like I got dicked hard by Nintendo afterwards. Favorite gen for monsters is 2, loved the features of gen 3.
 
Since sinnoh is the next remake (or I assume, at least, I havent kept up at with pokemon) I'm just trying to figure out how much of sinnoh and eventually unova are gonna be neutered. There wasn't a battle frontier oras and they seem to hate that kind of format anyways, so am I to assume the remakes for dpp and bw just won't have the battle tower or battle subway? I can't speak for tower, but subway was lit. I'm sure there will be some fuckery in the DPP remakes, but oh boy I'm worried about how they'll butcher bw, especially to fit it in with the next gen pokemon game. I feel like we'll lose a lot of good features with that one.
 
IV kinda sucks.
IV is a very mixed bag for me, but I wouldn't say it sucked. It just felt like it needed more "oomph".

On one hand the game went out of its way to finally explore the world a bit more, explaining its history, religion, culture, folklore, etc in more detail and finally giving a lot of neglected pokemon some attention again and giving them new evos and whatnot along with some interesting new items. The characterization was also enjoyable and the rivals were an improvement over the garbage rivals of Gen III. But on the other hand while the story was probably better than the previous Gens it would later be btfo by Gen V which is pretty bad since Gen IV has a lot of qualities that make it feel like it should be the end all/be all of the franchise, what with the team boss this time having the biggest ambition of any pokemon villain, seeking soulless godhood and remaking the world in his image while also introducing the being that essentially manage/govern the world and all its essentials, Arceus (divine), Lake Trio (spirit), Dialga (time), Palkia (space), Giratina (chaos), Cresselia (dreams/light), Darkrai (nightmares/dark), Heatran (earth's core), Regigigas (continents), etc, yet despite the presence of these, the story never feels as epic as it could've been, especially with such grand powers at play. I mean I enjoyed it, but it felt like there was a lot of wasted potential in how easily it was all resolved, although Platinum did improve upon this a little with the Distortion World thing, but even that doesn't feel as titanic as it should be. I think even Kyogre and Groudon's summoning felt more like a proper end of the world scenario especially with how truly powerless the evil teams felt within their presence. Another issue for me is that while half of the new mon designs were good imo, the other half were really bad, probably having some of my least favorite designs of any gen aside from maybe Gen 8. Others felt like they never should've existed altogether, like Rhyperior. And even some of the good ones had some weird aesthetic choices which made them look unsettling to me, like Roserade and Lopunny's segmented Barbie Doll legs.

4 > 5 > 3 > 2 > 8 > 6 > 1 > 7

Wanted to put 1 at the bottom at first, but decided against it just because many of its problems just boil down to "It aged poorly".
Doesn't help with how broken Gen 1 was with Psychic types.
 
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