Pokémon (Not-So) Griefing Thread - Scarlet and Violet Released with 10 Million Copies in First 3 Days in Buggy States

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ToroidalBoat said:
When I see fan-made pocketmons cards online, they always have ludicrous HP and moves. Looks like they are always made by little kids.
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ToroidalBoat said:
When I see fan-made pocketmons cards online, they always have ludicrous HP and moves. Looks like they are always made by little kids.
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Probably because they are. I remember some Pokemon magazine back in the aughts even had a section dedicated specifically to fan-made card submissions. The only one I remember was one called 'Ho-Ho' which was just Ho-oh put into a cake roll.
 
Speaking of losing faith in the future of this franchise

So there was that teraleak a while back that had a lot of development material for a lot of the games, and in there with all the autistic mythology ramblings for DP was this-

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A very nice and thoughtful idea of how the Pokemon world should be seen, as a balance between technology and nature, with neither on its own being better or desirable and with the semi-utopia of the Pokemon world stemming from the balance between the two. This really caught my eye because it's something I always loved about the franchise, both the shameless optimism and the somewhat unique worldbuilding that resulted from the harmony between the two just being taken as a base assumption. And it's something I've felt had been lacking in some of the newer games, to their extreme detriment. But I've found it hard to explain that, usually getting some drooling retard response of "but durr the Pokemon games is still about the Pokemon and duh pipple so it's fine??". I think I've gone into some autism about that here, I dunno.

So imagine my surprise when I find (and I can't be fucked to find it again) the development notes for Arceus basically say "the people of the past are retarded and need big strong present-time protagonist to come fix their shit for them". For fucks sake.

I'm also too lazy to find this but there was a note for BW talking about how it shouldn't go into detail about how the Seven Sages get arrested or whatever because something mundane like that would ruin the fantasy image of the games... and then SWSH just goes and has Rose and the bros arrested after their utterly underwhelming storylines. Man.

I have the slightest remaining sliver of hope for ZA since the leaker said the story was good but "people" think SM was well written so who the fuck knows.
 
Horribadger said:
there was a note for BW talking about how it shouldn't go into detail about how the Seven Sages get arrested or whatever because something mundane like that would ruin the fantasy image of the games.
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It's shit like this that makes me miss Masuda all the more. Say what you want about his era, but I will completely discount any blind retard who can't see how much he truly loved the concept of the franchise. Regardless of the gameplay, regardless of the arguable stagnation, it is impossible to deny how dedicated Masuda was to making the world work and it is the main reason I cannot in good faith truly adore any game past X or Y. Not even ORAS, as strange as that sounds, due to all the retarded timeline bullshit and insulting changes to Hoenn's traversal.

I really REALLY hope Ohmori just gets fucking booted after the disasters that generations 8 and 9 have been. He's already had as much time in the position as Masuda and yet has done so much less, on so many levels, in so many ways. I wouldn't dare ask for Masuda to return after what generation 5 did to him, but I'd love someone with an equally-bright spark regarding the older-school worldbuilding to take the helm.
 
Shit, I just want towns back. Towns with themes and shit. Towns where I can just run back to, instead of Pokemon centers in a field. It made sense for Legends Arceus, but it sucked in SV.
 
Playing thru FRR, I've noticed something I haven't felt in decades: Sense of wonder what's behind the next patch of grass. Ever since I finished all the mainline games from Gen 1-7, I knew what I would encounter in every area on repeat playthrus, from trainers to wild Pokemon. This did let me prepare better for encounters or plan out my team composition better, sure, but it robbed me of that sense of adventure you only get on your first playthru. Well, I kind of have that now all over again, you truly don't know what's going to pop up in the next area so the thought keeps me playing. The trainers are a bit disappointing since their teams haven't changed from base FRLG(and they were hardly better than the boring teams of GRB), but at least I get to test the new Pokemon in a familiar environment.

I can confirm you can get every Gen 1 starter very early on, just like in Yellow. Right under Cerulean, in the same area as the Daycare, there is a brand new patch of grass that only holds Charmander/Bulbasaur/Squirtle for your catching pleasure. This means that not only are you able to easily catch a female variant of these Pokemon, but in any ball you choose. This wouldn't be possible in the mainline games until Gen 7 with the QR code event Pokemon. As a collector, I am very pleased that I finally have a spot where I can farm these rare Pokemon, and I am only looking forward to finally getting access to areas with wild Legendaries as well.

Anonitolia said:
It's shit like this that makes me miss Masuda all the more. Say what you want about his era, but I will completely discount any blind retard who can't see how much he truly loved the concept of the franchise. Regardless of the gameplay, regardless of the arguable stagnation, it is impossible to deny how dedicated Masuda was to making the world work and it is the main reason I cannot in good faith truly adore any game past X or Y. Not even ORAS, as strange as that sounds, due to all the retarded timeline bullshit and insulting changes to Hoenn's traversal.

I really REALLY hope Ohmori just gets fucking booted after the disasters that generations 8 and 9 have been. He's already had as much time in the position as Masuda and yet has done so much less, on so many levels, in so many ways. I wouldn't dare ask for Masuda to return after what generation 5 did to him, but I'd love someone with an equally-bright spark regarding the older-school worldbuilding to take the helm.
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The same people who eat the modern slop up are the same people who shit on Gen 5 the hardest and shattered Masuda's dreams. In that sense, at least we find some ironic karmic justice here. Hope crying about "muh ice cream cone, muh garbage bag" was worth it now that the games are worse in every aspect than ever before. Say what you want about Masuda era games, at least they had charm to them. These days, the games just feel like interactive movies with difficulty dropping with every new release.
 
I'm almost done with the base Galar Pokédex. I just have to obtain the Type: Null line now, they're going to be a pain to get since they're only available in the post-game as a gift Pokémon in the Battle Tower.

With that said I'm taking a smallish break from completing the SWSH Pokédexes in order to farm Shiny Paradox Pokémon, I usually get Legendaries for 'em when I throw 'em onto the GTS.
ToroidalBoat said:
When I see fan-made pocketmons cards online, they always have ludicrous HP and moves. Looks like they are always made by little kids.
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On the one hand I like these cards because they remind me how shitty some of the games made by Pokémon TCG fans, MetaZoo and Elestrals being two that I know of.

On the other, it reminds me that there's a BIG market for custom cards and some those are definitely NSFW.
 
A good custom card could be this kiwi birb on an innertube, Colorless (kiwis are not water birds), like 50 to 70 HP, and some move which does like 20 or 30 for 1 or 2 Water Energy. A bad custom card would be this kiwi birb on an innertube, Grass type because green innertube, around 500 HP, and a move that does like 300 for 1 Water and 1 Grass.
 
Horribadger said:
But I've found it hard to explain that, usually getting some drooling retard response of "but durr the Pokemon games is still about the Pokemon and duh pipple so it's fine??".
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Anonitolia said:
Not even ORAS, as strange as that sounds, due to all the retarded timeline bullshit and insulting changes to Hoenn's traversal.
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Yeah the heavy dip Pokemon has had into sci-fi has been a big burr for me too. It doesn't feel like there's anything left to explore and what you do interact with is just incredibly sterile. Ultra Beasts and dimension hopping taking over the focus in the Alola games to the complete detriment of any history the region might have had or the lore around its completely forgettable legendaries was emblematic for me of the direction Pokemon was heading.

I blame part of this on GF/Masuda's obsession with Kanto. Of the original regions it has the least nature-tech harmony and its only real lore is related to a manmade homunculi.
anliteralidiot said:
Shit, I just want towns back. Towns with themes and shit. Towns where I can just run back to, instead of Pokemon centers in a field. It made sense for Legends Arceus, but it sucked in SV.
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They got rid of towns in SV?
 
Computer God Autism said:
Yeah the heavy dip Pokemon has had into sci-fi has been a big burr for me too. It doesn't feel like there's anything left to explore and what you do interact with is just incredibly sterile. Ultra Beasts and dimension hopping taking over the focus in the Alola games to the complete detriment of any history the region might have had or the lore around its completely forgettable legendaries was emblematic for me of the direction Pokemon was heading.
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All of Gen 7 was just a haphazard mess. It was half of what Z was supposed to be and half of what Alola was originally aspired to be, it ended up being neither. This is why I can buy the Kalos "Fairies are aliens" theory since this is pretty much what UBs and their entire plotline is. Wouldn't be surprised if this was cut from XY and became a recycled plot twist for SM when the devs figured out they didn't have enough original lore and story for SM to make it stick.

I liked the Orre duology, I think it handled the same themes as Red/Blue(criminal empire using technology to enslave Pokemon, make them stronger and take over the world) but did them better. Since it wasn't done by Gamefreak, nobody will ever remember those games however.
 
Computer God Autism said:
They got rid of towns in SV?
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Towns are still in the game but they're basically setting pieces now, you can't even go into a vast majority of the buildings (with the scant few being major hubs like Naranja/Uva Academy, Gym-related structures, the labs in Area Zero, etc.) and areas like Pokémon Centers and Poké Marts are designed to be like open-air gas stations.
 
ToroidalBoat said:
A good custom card could be this kiwi birb on an innertube, Colorless (kiwis are not water birds), like 50 to 70 HP, and some move which does like 20 or 30 for 1 or 2 Water Energy. A bad custom card would be this kiwi birb on an innertube, Grass type because green innertube, around 500 HP, and a move that does like 300 for 1 Water and 1 Grass.
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On a whim, decided to look at the TCRF Terraleak section to see if there is anything new.
There is a few interesting discoveries regarding FRLG(since this is what I am playing right now) I found. The biggest one seems to be that many of the sprites, both overworld and front/back seemed to be completely different in the early development, later re-drawn to look like they did in the final game. Most of these changes are minor, the biggest seems to be that Red had a completely different design, that includes a single sprite with him lacking the iconic cap on his head
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Blue similarly looked more like his RBG counterpart.
I don't see anything on Leaf, so she must have been a late addition.
 
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