Pokémon (Not-So) Griefing Thread - Scarlet and Violet Released with 10 Million Copies in First 3 Days in Buggy States

[Anonitolia]

I am in grave mourning. There is a substantial chance that French ayy lmaos were never to be. Why must I be robbed of that which never existed.

I'm going to speculate that if real, the Pokemon is likely a Ghost Type region variant given that it has a "cutesy but something spooky behind the scenes" design that newer Ghost Type pre-evo's tend to have and is likely based on the "Headless Horseman" myth and would require some sort of non-standard evolution to hit it's Mudsdale variant or a third evolution that we don't know about yet.

The 4chan post this is derived from explicitly states that it's supposed to be Poison/Dark.



I have no clue why anybody is believing this. If the leaker has a complete, retail-ready build of Z-A, there is absolutely no reason any given Pokémon would be untextured like this, especially if the art style is similar to SV's. Assuming the leaker's build isn't finished and this is from an incomplete version, what's to say that this regional variant will even be in the final product? We've seen how GF have been willing to scrap ideas right up until extremely late stages of development, even ones for new Pokémon (see: Southern Kalos and Zygarde forms in XY, Gyarados Convergent line in SV), so there's little reason to take this as canon until the game itself comes out with the line inside of it.

Additionally,

I've heard that the leaker got really angry that this was posted outside his discord

This is even harder to believe with all the misinformation going around about how he's not going to release SV information (when the very post above me shows that he has, at least to a certain group), how he's done leaking, or stuff like that. It's poisoning the well and it's making this claim dubious without any attached screenshot of the leaker's account saying exactly what you claim.

 

[anliteralidiot]

It's for the DLC though. Are those DLC's really worth $30? I never bought them because I assumed it was an overpriced ripoff.

eh, it's a little overpriced, but it's fun, and I liked the horses and stupid bunny

 

[Scarlet Imperial]

SV dev/possibly final release pics 2021

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Holy shit. You're telling me the textures in the final version were actually UPGRADED from the placeholders? I thought they WERE mostly placeholder textures! These barely look any worse than what's in the game right now. The ocean looks like a Paint bucket fill for crying out loud.

 

[Archeops]

SV dev/possibly final release pics 2021

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Considering that I'm not seeing anything related to VFX and how certain objects and features are effected by it (with some of those objects like grass patches not even being present in these photos) I think we found the culprit for the games' many performance issues. The game basically slows down when in certain areas due to the code not being up to snuff and is barely able to process due to rendering said VFX and the immense amount of moving objects (Pokémon, patches of grass that are moved by the in-game weather). Game crashes more than likely occur due to possible loading errors. If you've seen square patches of grass missing in large fields then those game-crashing errors would be a more extreme example of that.

This kind of tells me that GF didn't really give SV the amount of QA testing that it needed before going golden, another year in the oven could've made the games better by a wide margin.

This is even harder to believe with all the misinformation going around about how he's not going to release SV information (when the very post above me shows that he has, at least to a certain group), how he's done leaking, or stuff like that. It's poisoning the well and it's making this claim dubious without any attached screenshot of the leaker's account saying exactly what you claim.

I believe the whole "he's not going to release SV information" bit is mostly in regards to releasing the game's source code. TPC and GF are still intent on doing events for SV, both in-game and IRL, until Gen 10 drops and releasing the source code could, if here were to get caught after doing so, be held liable for any financial damage done to those events.

To put it simply: as much as I'd like to see SV's source code just figure out what the fuck is behind the games' performance issues I really don't want to see someone using that same source code to help develop tools that could force TPCi to potentially cancel Worlds 2025.

 

[McMitch]

This kind of tells me that GF didn't really give SV the amount of QA testing that it needed before going golden, another year in the oven could've made the games better by a wide margin.

It is eternally baffling that, for all the times GF supposedly buckled down to future-proof their code, every game barring 2 (Gens 2 and 5) has been an incompetent mess from the ground up.
This is the second mainline game released on the console, they should have had most things ironed out before they even moved off concept-pieces (because they probably assembly-line the games, where the next one is started before the previous is even done).

 

[30+GameOvers]

SV dev/possibly final release pics 2021

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LMFAO, you're kidding me right? This looks barely any different than the final game!
Oh well, not like it matters. Pokemon fans are cattle so Gamefreak can literally release an unfinished tech demo and it will still move over 10 million units in 3 days, sell like hotcakes for the next months to come and sell a well received(lol) set of DLCs that double the price of the game

This is even harder to believe with all the misinformation going around about how he's not going to release SV information (when the very post above me shows that he has, at least to a certain group), how he's done leaking, or stuff like that. It's poisoning the well and it's making this claim dubious without any attached screenshot of the leaker's account saying exactly what you claim.

FreakLeak trooncord lurks /vp/ and a direct screencap from discord was posted. I don't have the screencap saved but I posted a pastebin of /vp/ thread archives that you can check yourself. That screencap could have easily been faked, but my understanding is that either the SV stuff was not supposed to be released or someone did so behind the leaker's back. Doubt this autistic fuck would change his mind this easily.

It is eternally baffling that, for all the times GF supposedly buckled down to future-proof their code, every game barring 2 (Gens 2 and 5) has been an incompetent mess from the ground up.
This is the second mainline game released on the console, they should have had most things ironed out before they even moved off concept-pieces (because they probably assembly-line the games, where the next one is started before the previous is even done).

What was wrong with Gen 3 on a technical level? I get that you couldn't bring over your Pokemon from gen 1/2 but at least you had an entire dex several times over by the end of the generation. Plus, you could just cheat them in, they were all fully working on day one unlike the post-dexit games.

 

[Postmodernist Disaster]

I believe the whole "he's not going to release SV information" bit is mostly in regards to releasing the game's source code. TPC and GF are still intent on doing events for SV, both in-game and IRL, until Gen 10 drops and releasing the source code could, if here were to get caught after doing so, be held liable for any financial damage done to those events.

I too believe that the reason as of why we're not getting the SV code for a while is not only out of possible legal repercussions for the leaker but also the immense security risk having the almost up to date source code of a massively active PvP game implies.

Just like what is happening with the old CoD games, where there is a risk of your PC getting RCE'd by just being on a server with a hacker, if people had access to the networking parts of SV's code, what's stopping a guy from making game breaking or even console bricking level glitches using the code as a reference for possible exploits on the online aspects of the game?

 

[30+GameOvers]

I too believe that the reason as of why we're not getting the SV code for a while is not only out of possible legal repercussions for the leaker but also the immense security risk having the almost up to date source code of a massively active PvP game implies.

Just like what is happening with old CoD games where there is a risk of your PC getting RCE'd by just being on a server with a hacker, if people had access to the networking parts of SV's code, what's stopping a guy from making game breaking or even console bricking level glitches using the code as a reference for possible exploits on the online aspects of the game?

SV is broken enough, I doubt anyone would notice if someone tried to break the game even harder.
SV can also be played offline, so I don't see why this is an issue. The game is an even bigger disaster with other people, that's where most of the memes about the game came from after all. Unlike the old COD games, if anything happens to people's consoles over SV it is entirely Gamefreak's fault for being incompetent and making a shoddily build, barely functioning game.
The leaker being some sort of a retarded moralfag or him thinking not releasing the latest games will save him are the best bets. His ass is already fried, so he might as well just release everything anyways, can you imagine the fallout from leaking a working ZA build? He probably doesn't have it tho, otherwise SOMETHING other than that probably fake screenshot would have dropped.

 

[Postmodernist Disaster]

can you imagine the fallout from leaking a working ZA build?

I yearn the moment this guy's PC gets hacked and someone with actual guts finishes the job for him. If all goes accordingly, GF freaks out due to people lambasting ZA for being SV 1.5 and gets back to the drawing board to make an entire different game just like the HL2 beta leaks. But realistically speaking, TPCi will just tell GF to suck it up and ship the game on its current iteration.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

SV dev/possibly final release pics 2021

Shit looks like Isle Delfino or something from Mario64

Pokemon 64: Scarlet Version, Violet Version

 

[Anonitolia]

my understanding is that either the SV stuff was not supposed to be released or someone did so behind the leaker's back

Yes, of course, that's exactly why there are multiple repositories of beta SV builds up for download on the most widely-spread source (and have been for almost a day now) without any repercussions or removals or other attempts at getting them shut down despite the fact that the first rentry made for this leak was struck down within a day.


And why /vp/'s /ppg/ has been mostly focused around dissecting it and PLA for the past 12 or so hours.



Whether or not your understanding was wrong, it's incorrect to say that SV is not getting any files leaked because there have already been multiple different repositories uploaded and shared around regardless of whether the leaker approves or not. Alongside that, the leaker has continued uploading things while the SV builds are being spread around, so either he's really really good at curating appearances while seething behind the scenes or he genuinely does not care.



also lmao the betas are so uninspired, they're basically just the final game with placeholder UI/models from SwSh and even worse textures somehow. Such a shitty change from how betas used to be full of unexplored features and little passion projects (like Masuda's Arceus glyph explanation)

 

[Forsaken Wanderer]

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With how close everything is to each other it makes me think it would of been a 3d interactive menu for a stadium type game where the camera swoops around as you go between the game modes.

Has there been any unreleased dinosaur Pokemons? It's been 30 years and they still have not tapped into the vast well that is the dinosaur-type Pokemon.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

I kinda don't like how in the newer vidya, you're told what is super effective, not very effective, no effect, etc. "Back in my day", you had to memorize the type matchups.

 

[qoop]

30+GameOvers has taught me why Palworld fans hate Pokemon fans so much

I can't believe pokemon did canon bestiality rape before palworld.

Now palworld will never be allowed to do a sex update without a lawsuit from GF.

 

[Dr. Geronimo]

Hopefully I can get a real answer amidst all this leak stuff.

Can anyone recommend any ROMhacks that focus on enhancing the vanilla experience? I'm not interested in any of these hacks that focus on nuzlocke or pro player bullshit. I recently played Crystal Clear and it was pretty much what I was looking for.

 

[Registration]

Got lucky

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

So is it true what I read that the current Pokemon tournament rules you need to publicly post your team, moves and items?

 

[Archeops]

So is it true what I read that the current Pokemon tournament rules you need to publicly post your team, moves and items?

Pretty much, Play Pokémon's official Video Game Rules, Formats, and Penalty Guidelines page for this season says it's an open list format with pages containing the Pokémon your team, their Tera Types, their Abilities, their held items, and their move sets being given to both TOs and one you keep on-hand that you show to your opponent in each round. The only thing that isn't shared is the stat spreads your Pokémon have.

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

Pretty much, Play Pokémon's official Video Game Rules, Formats, and Penalty Guidelines page for this season says it's an open list format with pages containing the Pokémon your team, their Tera Types, their Abilities, their held items, and their move sets being given to both TOs and one you keep on-hand that you show to your opponent in each round. The only thing that isn't shared is the stat spreads your Pokémon have.

Holy shit, I thought team preview was bullshit. What is even the point in playing tournaments when the entire prediction part of the gameplay doesn't exist anymore? Is there a reason for doing it which isn't capitulating to the worst players who only play meta?

 

[Registration]

Does anyone know if there are english scans of the last 2 volumes of the Pokemon DP manga?

https://www.mangaupdates.com/series/hrln0tp/pokemon-dp

Edit: found it. I was looking with DP instead of Diamond