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Zenotwapal said:
If there's one thing you can NEVER talk about in a positive light on practically all pokemon sites/forums is cheating/hacking or emulation. Personally I don't really mind that, since I don't bother to use AR/Gameshark myself, but entirety of Serebii took it to a whole new level. The IRC channel for the site had scripts that would instantly ban and kick anyone who typed out any of these words: "AR, Gameshark, Pokesav (popular pokemon generator), emulators, ROM(s), etc etc". Not only that, if you did hack your pokeymans, you're a EVIL, VILE person!
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Which is funny because I made an account just to get into the Vivillon trading scene and now that there's the France-exclusive Poké Ball pattern, when I contacted a couple people who were offering one they'd admit it was cloned/hacked as if that was a-ok with everyone. (I don't mind when people cheat but I'd rather not people assume that everyone else is ok with it, like I'm never going to so I don't want your hacked Pokémon, okay.)

You cannot talk about any other fansite on the forums/chatrooms (ESPECIALLY Bulbapedia, oh man will they sperg over that).
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Also funny because the administrator of The Cave of Dragonflies, which admittedly doesn't have as much raw information as Serebii or Bulbapedia but has a lot more niche stuff (like in-depth discussions of capture mechanics, Safari Zone mechanics, and all the weird gen 1 programming), is a moderator in the fan fiction section.
 
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I was never into Pokemon beyond the Red/Blue/Yellow generation but during that time I did meet a few sperg type pokemon.

I knew this one guy who had a psychotic hate for Pikachu. I think it was because Pikachu was the most popular pokemon and he wanted to seem "different" from the mainstream. He would constantly talk about ways he wanted to see Pikachu die and would draw other Pokemon killing him in gruesome ways.

I knew another kid who thought he was smooth and claimed he could get all his pokemon to level 100 in one night. Knowing already what he was up to we told him to prove it. He agreed and erased his game in front of all of us. The next day he came to school all smug and showed it to us and we were all like "That's cool. Now can you do it without the rare candy cheat?" He got really flustered and realized he had deleted his original game only to make a fool out of himself.
 
Altissimo said:
Which is funny because I made an account just to get into the Vivillon trading scene and now that there's the France-exclusive Poké Ball pattern, when I contacted a couple people who were offering one they'd admit it was cloned/hacked as if that was a-ok with everyone. (I don't mind when people cheat but I'd rather not people assume that everyone else is ok with it, like I'm never going to so I don't want your hacked Pokémon, okay.)
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Must've been over PM or something because on Serebii you'd get the ban hammer if that was posted out in the open. There's a few kids on Serebii who hack but the main consensus is "hacking/cloning is cheating and wrong".
Also funny because the administrator of The Cave of Dragonflies, which admittedly doesn't have as much raw information as Serebii or Bulbapedia but has a lot more niche stuff (like in-depth discussions of capture mechanics, Safari Zone mechanics, and all the weird gen 1 programming), is a moderator in the fan fiction section.
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I speak generally when I say "every fansite". It's mostly with Bulbapedia. A lot of the members have a distaste for Smogon as well, because of poke-purism.
 
I'm sorry but if anyone takes Pokemon seriously they are a lolcow. It's a children's game. I still play it but obsessing over it is just ridiculous.
 
See, I don't think people should try to pass hacked Pokemon off as legit in trades or shit like that, but if you just keep them on your own game for fun or make sure to tell people before trading I don't see what the problem is. I hacked to get a Mew on my Crystal game just because Mew is my favorite Pokemon and I wanted on for my game. People need to calm their tits.

This might be more on topic in the SJW thread, but apparently BJR was at a con recently and looking in the artist alley when she saw someone with nice Pokemon buttons. She was going to buy some, but saw the artist was also selling a pink pin that said "misandry" in cursive. Needless to say she noped the fuck out and told the con staff, who luckily told the artist to put that hateful bullshit away.
 
Zenotwapal said:
If there's one thing you can NEVER talk about in a positive light on practically all pokemon sites/forums is cheating/hacking or emulation. Personally I don't really mind that, since I don't bother to use AR/Gameshark myself, but entirety of Serebii took it to a whole new level. The IRC channel for the site had scripts that would instantly ban and kick anyone who typed out any of these words: "AR, Gameshark, Pokesav (popular pokemon generator), emulators, ROM(s), etc etc". Not only that, if you did hack your pokeymans, you're a EVIL, VILE person!
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Just gonna put this out there, but there's a very real reason why fansites (especially the big ones) have to take such a hard stance on hacking/cheating, and it's all about the legal repercussions that they may face if they didn't. It's not like The Pokemon Company, Nintendo, et al aren't completely unaware of these sites; they are most certainly keeping watch. I mentioned before that I'm personal acquaintances with Tom Wayland (voice director for the English Pokemon dub), and I know for a fact that he looks in from time to time, and I have friends who know other voice actors who keep an eye out, and I may or may not know one or two Nintendo employees who participate on these forums undercover. The fansites can't be held responsible for what their forum members choose to say, of course, but they can be held responsible for not taking appropriate measures upon becoming aware of it.

Though I do think the generalization of "hackers are evil people!" is ridiculous; some people just like to tweak their 'mons for their own personal enjoyment. I have a friend who does just this, but he has an extremely strong stance against using any of them in any competitive environment, or for GTS trading or anything. I don't see anything wrong with that. It's really rude and shitty to try and pass off a noticeably hacked Pokemon as real when you've made an agreement to trade someone a legit one, though, for example.

Zenotwapal said:
The webmaster of Serebii, who is commonly referred to as "Serebii Joe" or just Joe on the forums, perpetuates this sort of behavior. He's a total elitist when it comes to his site and philosophy on a fucking child's game. He's 26 years old and has the mentality of his site's demographic when it comes to playing video games and how to play them. And I'm sure this has been stated before, but he boldly proclaims that he runs and maintains the "BEST pokemon fansite on the web!" His user-base believes him, too! You cannot talk about any other fansite on the forums/chatrooms (ESPECIALLY Bulbapedia, oh man will they sperg over that).
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This just reminded me of something that happened a few years ago. Archaic/Liam of Bulbagarden got some sort of offer from Google AdSense for free ad placement for a month or something, and he took advantage of it to place Bulbagarden ads on Serebii for that whole month, and there was nothing Joe could do about it. Not the most mature move Liam's ever made, but damn it sure earned a chuckle or two.
 
Himawari, do you know how far Nintendo's stance on hacking Pokémon and stuff goes? Like, does it extend to RNG manipulation, for instance? I know some parts of the community consider that cheating. (I did it once for a Registeel, but because I was trying to beat the Battle Tower in Platinum and it wasn't gonna happen otherwise lol)
 
So far as I know, RNG manipulation can't be traced, so Nintendo has no way of telling that you've done it. (I took RNG'd mons to VGC regionals and they got through the hack-check thing fine.) (before anyone accuses me of cheating, they were RNG'd for shininess, not super-amazing stats, and I lost in the first round anyway.) I'm not sure what Nintendo's stance on it is, though.
 
Himawari said:
So far as I know, RNG manipulation can't be traced, so Nintendo has no way of telling that you've done it. (I took RNG'd mons to VGC regionals and they got through the hack-check thing fine.) (before anyone accuses me of cheating, they were RNG'd for shininess, not super-amazing stats, and I lost in the first round anyway.) I'm not sure what Nintendo's stance on it is, though.
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I RNG frequently and it is confirmed to be untraceable. There is no difference between an "RNG abused" pokemon and a "regular" pokemon. They are both generated from natural game code.
I don't think Nintendo has given an official statement about RNG manipulation. But that doesn't stop the majority to pokemon fans from calling anyone who does it "dirty, stinky hackers!!!!11".
 
Yeah, I've run into those types that think RNG manip is cheating. Personally, I don't think it is. While AR and such alter the code, RNG manip is technically acting within the confines of the system, only being able to pinpoint ideal outcomes, like Shinies and the good IVs. And because it is still within the "confines" of the "construct", Nintendo can't detect it like a Pokesav'd or AR-generated Pokemon, which doesn't act within the "laws" of the "construct." But considering that Gen 6 made it almost obsolete with the wild babies, friend safari, and buffed Destiny Knot, at least in terms of the stats. Matsuda Method and that Shiny Charm do exist for shinies, however.

Sorry if the terms I used to describe certain things were odd, or just stupid.
 
Altissimo said:
Meet FlygonTheGreat, a 16-year-old kid who regularly waivers between being the administrator Butterfree's biggest fan and her biggest enemy! Here is a long-ass post I made about it to a friend some time back, with some more recent additions:
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Man, what the ever-loving hell happened to the place after I left? Damn. I feel kinda bad for Butterfree.

On the topic of tCoD though, the whole ASB thing could make a very, very long post I imagine. Not sure how interesting it'd be, but wow that was a huge mess.
 
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On the topic of tCoD though, the whole ASB thing could make a very, very long post I imagine. Not sure how interesting it'd be, but wow that was a huge mess.
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Oh, certainly. I don't know enough about it to reasonably discuss it, though.
(ASB is back, though!)
 
I'm super late to this, but I want to share a BJR story.

I can see what people mean about her not really being objectionable, but she's always rubbed me the wrong way because she constantly does that thing where fans take their fandom way too seriously. Like the kid who thinks that Naruto is an accurate representation of irl ninja and that it's super deep and stuff because omg some of the characters died!!!

One of the first things I remember about BJR was back when Livejournal had its strikethrough drama in 2007. Basically an anti-pedophilia group reported several users for CP (which turned out to be Harry Potter fanfic and not, you know, actual CP); LJ believed the accusation without investigating and suspended a shitton of accounts. Basically they suspended any account that had "rape" or similar listed as an interest -- which meant they actually ended up suspending a bunch of comms that were for survivors of rape and abuse.

So users were really irritated, and it caused a lot of drama and anxiety because no one knew exactly what was considered acceptable content anymore. There was a thread posted by staff that a lot of users responded to with questions / concerns / random outrage. A lot of it was legitimate questions, though, like, "Hey, this anime character looks underage even though they're supposed to be 18, will I get kicked out for CP if I draw porn of them?"

Then there's a comment by BJR about how she was really concerned because she likes to write about organized crime (read: TEAM FUCKING ROCKET), and organized crime is illegal just like CP is, and omg is she going to get in trouble for this???

Like, no, you exceptional individual. Everyone else is debating what qualifies as CP, and you are worried that you're going to get banned for writing about stupid criminals from a kids' show. No one is going to think that you're trying to, like, promote the mob or something with your shitty Team Rocket fanfiction.

Literally every comment I remember from her on LJ was about how Team Rocket was serious business.
 
This is pretty generalized, but the Serebii forums can be pretty obnoxious. I was a member there years ago but I eventually left because the amount of bickering and in-fighting that goes on there is ridiculous. Some of the posters are the most hilariously passive-aggressive people you'll ever meet. Occasionally I'll check up on the forums for shits and giggles (particularly the manga section, because while I don't watch the anime, I love Pokemon Special), read a few posts and think "Oh, yeah. That's why I left!"
 
Ooh, I've got one for you guys: FemaleGoodra on tumblr

http://femalegoodra.tumblr.com/

Dude is obsessed to the point of madness that all Goodras are female and cannot, I repeat, cannot be male as it is too "feminine" to not be female only. He will visiously lash out at anyone with a post that shows a male Goodra, saying "she" is being forced to act male or is just confused. I really don't know how to explain him, though from what I understand he was fairly notorious on /vp/ and a couple other boards.

Seriously, just give his newest post a read. Dude's got issues.

EDIT: And is aware of Chris, it seems.

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I love Goodra so much that it’s completely unhealthy, and seeing her as a “male”… It just pisses me off genuinely with an autistic rage that only chris chan could match.
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SteelPlatedHeart said:
Ooh, I've got one for you guys: FemaleGoodra on tumblr

http://femalegoodra.tumblr.com/

Dude is obsessed to the point of madness that all Goodras are female and cannot, I repeat, cannot be male as it is too "feminine" to not be female only. He will visiously lash out at anyone with a post that shows a male Goodra, saying "she" is being forced to act male or is just confused. I really don't know how to explain him, though from what I understand he was fairly notorious on /vp/ and a couple other boards.

Seriously, just give his newest post a read. Dude's got issues.
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Oh, God, what a horrible layout. A lime green background that hurts your eyes, obnoxious auto-play, and an ugly banner. Why are all lolcows so horrible at web design?

As for the content itself, holy shit. Yes, Goodra is a very feminine-looking Pokemon, but when has Pokemon ever been consistent with gender design-wise? For fuck's sake, Machop/Machoke/Machamp, quite possibly the most masculine Pokemon ever, still have a 25% chance of being female. Being so obsessed about such a stupid thing is ridiculous.

Also, I love how like 95% of their posts are dedicated to explaining that they're NOT A FUCKING TROLL, STOP BULLYING ME!!!! If you have to constantly tell people that you're not trolling and are in fact serious, you're doing something wrong.
 
Cosmos said:
Oh, God, what a horrible layout. A lime green background that hurts your eyes, obnoxious auto-play, and an ugly banner. Why are all lolcows so horrible at web design?

As for the content itself, holy shit. Yes, Goodra is a very feminine-looking Pokemon, but when has Pokemon ever been consistent with gender design-wise? For fuck's sake, Machop/Machoke/Machamp, quite possibly the most masculine Pokemon ever, still have a 25% chance of being female. Being so obsessed about such a stupid thing is ridiculous.

Also, I love how like 95% of their posts are dedicated to explaining that they're NOT A FUCKING TROLL, STOP BULLYING ME!!!! If you have to constantly tell people that you're not trolling and are in fact serious, you're doing something wrong.
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According to his logic, if you say Goodra looks feminine, you automatically agree with him that they are all female and that no males exist
 
Man, I just remember this one girl in the twitter Pokémon crowd. I mentioned earlier BJR and I are friends (can't even lie I'm basically as spergy as her) and are mutuals on tumblr, etc. She (and I before I left) did a fair bit of SJW snarking/pointing out they don't make sense/etc. Since its fucking tumblr a lot of people in the Pokemon crowd were/are SJWs.

On day I catch BJR going at it with this girl who was being an ass and ignoring/denying any form of oppression that wasn't transphobia or racism. We both point out homophobia, ableism, sexism, classism, etc etc and she looses her shit, blocks us, and storms off. I notice her user name and I feel like I've seen it before. Then I remember she's this girl who writes all this graphic Ghetsis/N incest rape shota porn whose work I had the misfortune of stumbling on a year or so prior to this.

Acknowledging racism and trans phobia aren't the only forms of bigotry? UNACCEPTABLE! Fan fiction for a children's franchise about a boy as young as five being raped brutally raped by his own father? No problem guys.
 
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