🐷 The Killstream General Discussion Thread - Discuss Ethan Ralph's stagnant Killstream and his appearances on other shows.

[Dixieland Buckaroo]

Here is your answer:

I've always been confident the number of viplikes bots was wrong 250+ since he's never really crossed the 500+ viewer threshold outside of when he buys 1500 bots for megastreams. However, I've never been able to out a thumb on the number of natural Rumblebots since we have no way to know how the algorithm determines bot dispersement.

I know you can't base numbers off chatters alone, since not everyone who watches will chat, but you also kinda feel that people who willingly watch da KILLSTREAM are alot more likely to engage with da chat. It's not like Ralph's tiny audience watches Ralph for his deep insight. They watch it to engage with him because that's the only plausible reason to watch him. IMO, you'd expect around 80%+ of the people who watch da KILLSTREAM to engage in chat, and that's a conservative percentage. You could probably guestimate total number of humans by just adding 20% to the total number of chatters throughout a full KILLSTREAM and be pretty damn accurate.

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1. God, I hope he's not buying the smaller packages (25, 50, or 100) now. Buying bots on Rumble is already pathetic, but being too poor to buy Rumble bots while still buying Rumble bots is just something else.

2. While I'm sure the 'BEST SELLING' tag is some arbitrary label, I'd find it hilarious if that label is on their solely due to Ralph. What's worse is that's not all that improbable because who the fuck else is buying bots on Rumble? I'm not saying Ralph is the only one, but he might actually be the only one.

The old rule of thumb for livestreams is engagement is logarithmic. So with say 250 live viewers, one would expect 25 chatters and 2.5 donators. The rule of thumb falls apart when the numbers get this low... But I don't know if Ralph's chat has had 25 unique chatters in a while.

 

[sufferhorse]

last year when i was pocketwatching him, it became clear pretty early on that rumble was giving him 170 bots per stream. youd see them disengage 1 bot per second inmediately after he ended the stream. that, added to his unique real chatters, was the full amount he displayed. why 170? why that number?... because rumble multiplies your real number of viewers by 10, when you are a small channel.

so 17 real viewers was the number we came up with last year. maybe he gained a bit more this year but the trend shows he is going back down to those numbers.

 

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last year when i was pocketwatching him, it became clear pretty early on that rumble was giving him 170 bots per stream. youd see them disengage 1 bot per second inmediately after he ended the stream. that, added to his unique real chatters, was the full amount he displayed. why 170? why that number?... because rumble multiplies your real number of viewers by 10, when you are a small channel.

so 17 real viewers was the number we came up with last year. maybe he gained a bit more this year but the trend shows he is going back down to those numbers.

That makes a lot of sense. His viewership stayed in the 230s hour after hour last night the entire time, so 23 actual viewers is probably it. Very sad and pitiful for da Innernet LEGEND.

 

[HackerX]

The old rule of thumb for livestreams is engagement is logarithmic. So with say 250 live viewers, one would expect 25 chatters and 2.5 donators. The rule of thumb falls apart when the numbers get this low... But I don't know if Ralph's chat has had 25 unique chatters in a while.

Yeah, the fact it's Ralph throws all your standard metrics and whatnot out the window. While I'll wholeheartedly believe it's plausible there are people who watch Ralph who do not engage in chat, nor donate, there's no way that you can correlate that shit to that of a relatively normal content creator. You just have to think that Ralph's situation is basically inverted because of how boring he is, the content he creates (using the term very loosely), and the type of audience whomst da Ralphamale attracts at this point. Especially at this point. The dozen(s) of unironic KILLSTREAM fans watch it for the sole purpose of interacting with Ralph for his hot takes while he's scrolling through his phone.

so 17 real viewers was the number we came up with last year. maybe he gained a bit more this year but the trend shows he is going back down to those numbers.

Yeah. That's honestly around what I have him pegged at with the eyeball test. There may be a bit more as of late due to the Scarlett era, but not much more. Granted, I won't argue there may be a small group of unironic fans, a sektur if you will, who don't tune into every KILLSTREAM. However, I refuse to believe there are more than 50 (sub)humans on this planet who are unironic, ongoing, and vaguely active fans of da KILLSTREAM, and that's the high end. Thank God Scarlett is there though to clear out riffraff like Analwulf and Merriejayne, allowing da Ralphamale to inject some new blood into da KILLSTREAM since I'm sure this whole saga has brought I'm at least one new fan! Right... Right???

That makes a lot of sense. His viewership stayed in the 230s hour after hour last night the entire time, so 23 actual viewers is probably it. Very sad and pitiful for da Innernet LEGEND.

And the good Lord only knows how many of those are gaylogs. I know da gaylogs committed full-time for da Ralphamale basically dropped off to zero last year, but I'm sure there's a handful who just periodically check in.

 

[AncientPhosphur]

Someone tell Ralph dying of a drug overdose isn’t an effective retirement plan

 

[Dixieland Buckaroo]

And the good Lord only knows how many of those are gaylogs. I know da gaylogs committed full-time for da Ralphamale basically dropped off to zero last year, but I'm sure there's a handful who just periodically check in.

Yeah the low numbers muck things up, and between Ralph botting and Rumble's stupid metrics, it's difficult to infer much. Plus, as you say, Ralph being Ralph, and the makeup of the remaining "audience".