Disaster Pewdiepie Ends T-Series Vs. Pewdiepie Meme - "I Didn't Want Hate To Win"

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‘I didn’t want hate to win’: PewDiePie ends ‘subscribe’ meme after Christchurch shooter’s shout-out



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YouTube star PewDiePie attends the European premiere of “Star Wars: The Force Awakens” in December 2015 in London. (Chris Jackson/Getty Images)
By Meagan Flynn
April 29 at 5:37 AM
On the day a gunman killed 50 people at two mosques in the worst terrorist attack in New Zealand history, the shooter also ushered PewDiePie, one of YouTube’s biggest stars, onto an unwanted stage: The terrorist invoked his name.
“Remember lads, Subscribe to PewDiePie,” the shooter said during a live stream of the mass shooting last month.
The shooter was referring to a grass-roots movement among PewDiePie’s fans to keep his YouTube channel in the No. 1 slot as an Indian channel threatened his top status. PewDiePie, whose real name is Felix Kjellberg and who has courted controversies involving racism in the past, immediately distanced himself from the terrorist, saying in a since-deleted tweet that he felt “absolutely sickened having my name uttered by this person.”
But until Sunday, he had otherwise remained silent about the entire episode, and about how the worldwide “Subscribe to PewDiePie” fan movement had in some cases been hijacked by those seeking to spread hate.

On Sunday, he released a YouTube video calling for an end to the movement and addressing the New Zealand shooting for the first time on his channel. His message comes just after the accused San Diego synagogue shooter, John Earnest, apparently published a manifesto online in which he also referenced PewDiePie.
“To have my name associated with something so unspeakably vile has affected me in more ways than I might have shown,” the 29-year-old Swedish YouTuber said of the New Zealand attacker. “I just didn’t want to address it right away, and I didn’t want to give the terrorist any more attention. I didn’t want to make it about me. Because I don’t think it has anything to do with me. To put it plainly, I didn’t want hate to win.
“It’s clear to me now,” he added, “the ‘Subscribe to PewDiePie’ movement should have ended then.”

With more than 95 million subscribers, Kjellberg long held claim to the title of YouTube’s most popular channel until recently. But as he promoted an anti-Semitic YouTube channel, produced videos that cracked dark jokes about anti-Semitism and Nazis, and once yelled the n-word while playing a video game, critics raised alarms about his influence on the young and impressionable.

[The forever war of PewDiePie, YouTube's biggest creator]
The “Subscribe to PewDiePie” movement evoked some of those same concerns — culminating, of course, with its invocation during the Christchurch massacre.
The grass-roots effort started harmlessly enough last year, with viral videos and pranks all seeking to promote the channel as the Indian channel T-Series encroached on PewDiePie’s subscriber count. Before long it turned into a full-fledged, worldwide publicity battle for the title. A fellow YouTuber, Mr. Beast, bought billboard ads and radio and television spots to relentlessly promote PewDiePie. A cheerleader squad performed a routine carrying “Subscribe to PewDiePie” signs. People wore “Subscribe to PewDiePie” T-shirts and posted fliers advertising his channel on telephone poles.
But then it started to go awry.

“Something I learned — and hopefully it’s something you can understand — is when you have 90 million people riled up about something, you’re bound to get a few degenerates,” Kjellberg said Sunday.
First, there were the hackers. Some of them hacked printers, managing to spew “Subscribe to PewDiePie” messaging worldwide. Others hacked the Wall Street Journal, publishing a mock apology to PewDiePie, which the newspaper immediately deleted.
Then there were the vandals. In March, a week before the New Zealand shooting, “Subscribe to PewDiePie” appeared scrawled three times on a World War II memorial in Brooklyn.
“Just so disgusting, so disappointing to have my name and community dragged into that,” Kjellberg said Sunday. “I addressed it on Twitter. I disavowed it. We saw that it got removed and donated to the park. I hoped that was going to be it.”

But it wasn’t, of course.
Two weeks after the New Zealand terrorist invoked his name, Kjellberg uploaded a mock music video targeting T-Series that India’s high court found so offensive that it ordered it blocked within the country. The video was one of two “diss tracks” that Kjellberg created during the battle with T-Series over YouTube’s top slot. An Indian judge said a quick perusal of the videos revealed “repeated comments made which are abusive, vulgar and also racist in nature.”
On Sunday, Kjellberg said the videos were just “made in fun, ironic jest,” but also expressed regret, saying it’s “clearly not fun anymore” and has “clearly gone too far.” He said he would comply with the court order.
“This negative rhetoric is something I don’t agree with at all,” he said, “and I want that to stop, and to make it perfectly clear: No, I’m not racist. I don’t support any form of racist comments or hate towards anyone.”

Kjellberg came under fire in 2017 after the Wall Street Journal reported on nine inflammatory videos that, with a combined 23 million views, included content seen as insensitive, racist and anti-Semitic. In one, two men laughed as they held a sign that said, “Death to all Jews.” In another, a man dressed as Jesus said, “Hitler did absolutely nothing wrong,” and in another, Kjellberg threw out the “Sieg Heil” Nazi salute during a mock video. A neo-Nazi website, the Daily Stormer, endorsed his videos. Whether Kjellberg intended to be racist or was kidding, they wrote, “The effect is the same; it normalizes Nazism, and marginalizes our enemies,” as the New York Times reported.
Disney, which owned a firm that operated Kjellberg’s business, severed tiesw ith Kjellberg over the videos the Journal unearthed. YouTube pulled a reality show series in which Kjellberg starred, TechCrunch reported.
At the time, Kjellberg disavowed hate groups in a statement as well.

“I think it’s important to say something and I want to make one thing clear: I am in no way supporting any kind of hateful attitudes,” he said in a statement posted to his Tumblr account in February 2017. “I make videos for my audience. I think of the content that I create as entertainment, and not a place for any serious political commentary. I know my audience understand that and that is why they come to my channel. Though this was not my intention, I understand that these jokes were ultimately offensive.”
On Sunday, Kjellberg rejected the idea that the “Subscribe to PewDiePie” movement had anything to do with politics, race or nationality and said he hoped that gaining more followers will stop being simply about “beating another channel.”
“I think what we’ve accomplished is so much more than that,” he said.

One does not simply end a meme.
 
I can see not wanting to be mired in criminal investigations over a meme but there's too much momentum now for it to ever stop, unfortunately
 
I can see not wanting to be mired in criminal investigations over a meme but there's too much momentum now for it to ever stop, unfortunately

I feel if he ends it now, then T-Series is going to take over the #1 spot. That will be the official start of the corporate reign of the Tube.

In fact:

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They've already won.
 
A neo-Nazi website, the Daily Stormer, endorsed his videos. Whether Kjellberg intended to be racist or was kidding, they wrote, “The effect is the same; it normalizes Nazism, and marginalizes our enemies,” as the New York Times reported.
Treating The Daily Stormer as an accurate source lol.

With more than 95 million subscribers, Kjellberg long held claim to the title of YouTube’s most popular channel until recently. But as he promoted an anti-Semitic YouTube channel, produced videos that cracked dark jokes about anti-Semitism and Nazis, and once yelled the n-word while playing a video game, critics raised alarms about his influence on the young and impressionable.
The video he recommended from him didn't even have any nazi jokes as far as I can tell it was really only the star wars and steven universe reviews that had them.
 
I get where he is coming from, and if I was in his position I would do the same thing in order to disassociate myself from any responsibility from such a horrible attack.

However this is pretty stupid since this means that someone could associate you with something even though you had nothing to do with it. Regardless of what pewds personal feelings are there is no proof that he thinks like a neo-nazi/white supremacist or that he is associated with any groups like that. Him saying "NIGGER!" while being frustrated at a game does not mean a damn thing. If saying "nigger" normalizes nazism then I guess pre-civil rights south was the most nazi regime on the planet.

If I yell "For Donald Trump!" "Remember to vote for Trump!" before shooting a bunch of people at a democratic convention should Trump resign from presidency?

If I yell "Christ is my lord and savior!" before killing a bunch of Muslims should other Christians feel bad and denounce their own religion?

Finally this won't please the SJWs since you can never please them, and anyone sane didn't claim pewds having any responsibility in the first place. Had he "won" the battle with T-series only a retard would go "ALL 90+ million subscribers of Pewdiepie ENDORSE THE CHRISTCHURCH SHOOTING!" This also won't stop StormTards from claiming pewds is /ourguy/.
 
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I get where he is coming from, and if I was in his position I would do the same thing in order to disassociate myself from any responsibility from such a horrible attack.

However this is pretty stupid since this means that someone could associate you with something even though you had nothing to do with it. Regardless of what pewds personal feelings are there is no proof that he thinks like a neo-nazi/white supremacist or that he is associated with any groups like that. Him saying "NIGGER!" while being frustrated at a game does not mean a damn thing. If saying "nigger" normalizes nazism then I guess pre-civil rights south was the most nazi regime on the planet.

If I yell "For Donald Trump!" "Remember to vote for Trump!" before shooting a bunch of people at a democratic convention should Trump resign from presidency?

If I yell "Christ is my lord and savior!" before killing a bunch of Muslims should other Christians feel bad and denounce their own religion?

Finally this won't please the SJWs since you can never please them, and anyone sane didn't claim pewds having any responsibility in the first place. Had he "won" the battle with T-series only an exceptional individual would go "ALL 90+ million subscribers of Pewdiepie ENDORSE THE CHRISTCHURCH SHOOTING!" This also won't stop StormTards from claiming pewds is /ourguy/.
Pewds got straight to it on Twitter, and he hasn't actually suffered too much backlash from Christchurch after that. The original WSJ crap on him was hitting jokes he forgot about and/or didn't acknowledge. He's just hitting it again because Christchurch has passed out of the news cycle and he wants to acknowledge it again before any haters forget and go back for hits.

He might be tired, too. This "race" stuff has been fairly taxing on him. He'll bounce over T-Series after this blows over, if he really wants to.
 
He has given the people who want to destroy him their favorite cudgel, an apology for something the target has no responsibility for or control over. Now the escalation begins.

Fuck. Even Pewds has now played right into Tarrant's hands. Fuck it makes my head hurt how he combined terrorism and memetic warfare as a form of applied accelerationism. Fucker wanted to make us more miserable to bring us into a time of conflict and it's working.
 
Pewds got straight to it on Twitter, and he hasn't actually suffered too much backlash from Christchurch after that. The original WSJ crap on him was hitting jokes he forgot about and/or didn't acknowledge. He's just hitting it again because Christchurch has passed out of the news cycle and he wants to acknowledge it again before any haters forget and go back for hits.

He might be tired, too. This "race" stuff has been fairly taxing on him. He'll bounce over T-Series after this blows over, if he really wants to.
The (((Media))) still hates him they put his photo in completely unrelated articles about pedophiles and shit for example those articles about pedophiles in the Pokemon community.
 
One does not simply end a meme.
I agree but it's one that thrived on official support. As long as it's even remotely associated with violent crimes or vandalism he has to disavow it, especially considering his hurdles in applying for Japanese citizenship and deciding whether or not to move permanently.
 
The (((Media))) still hates him they put his photo in completely unrelated articles about pedophiles and shit for example those articles about pedophiles in the Pokemon community.

As if kids or teenagers will actually read these articles and then be dissuaded from watching him. No one cares about the U.S. media's websites, they get less traffic than Communist Facebook pages and The Daily Wire.

He has given the people who want to destroy him their favorite cudgel, an apology for something the target has no responsibility for or control over. Now the escalation begins.

Fuck. Even Pewds has now played right into Tarrant's hands. Fuck it makes my head hurt how he combined terrorism and memetic warfare as a form of applied accelerationism. Fucker wanted to make us more miserable to bring us into a time of conflict and it's working.

Well what should he have done? He's stuck on YouTube because every other site is even-more-incompetently run than YouTube and scrutinized by the much larger competitors once he goes on them, so he has to play by their rules. He can't just explain what Tarrant wanted because that would basically provide proof to the outsiders that he's a /pol/lack, which would actually damage his image by giving the hackjob sites the tiniest amount of credibility in the eyes of the uninformed. And it's not like he's going to veer left now and alienate his centrist viewership.
 
His audience is understanding enough that they might respect his wish and end the meme.

But come on pewds, don't let them take it over, Don't let some fucking retar.d who went on a shooting spree change the nice movement your community created out of love for you and rebellion against YouTube.
 
He has given the people who want to destroy him their favorite cudgel, an apology for something the target has no responsibility for or control over. Now the escalation begins.

Fuck. Even Pewds has now played right into Tarrant's hands. Fuck it makes my head hurt how he combined terrorism and memetic warfare as a form of applied accelerationism. Fucker wanted to make us more miserable to bring us into a time of conflict and it's working.

To be honest Pewds was in a complete lose-lose situation when it came to the Christchurch Shooting.

If he denounced Tarrant, he would have given Tarrant the exact attention he was seeking.

If he said nothing, the media would be able to weaponize this shooting against him even more then they already did. (The response that "He denounced it" wouldn't work and they could say some baseless horseshit like "He didn't denounce, therefore meaning he supports it)
 
I agree but it's one that thrived on official support. As long as it's even remotely associated with violent crimes or vandalism he has to disavow it, especially considering his hurdles in applying for Japanese citizenship and deciding whether or not to move permanently.
AKA always acquiesce to terrorism. If a bad person ever associates with anything you love, you must destroy it, unless it's certain things, then it doesn't count.

It sucks that the mainstream press is playing along with an actual terrorists plans. Why doesn't this logic work against islam?
 
The next shooter should say, "Allahu Akbar, subscribe to Pewdiepie, Alexandria Cortez is my waifu" and then the press won't know what to do.
I feel for PDP, but I don't know if this was the right decision. It feels like you're letting scum stop you being you.
 
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