Pedophilia Debate Thread - What are your thoughts on people who masturbate to neko shotas?

[9Style]

i know for a fact i've met plenty of short women that were in their 30s yet looked very child like and had the brains of a middle schooler too.

Wouldn't they be too stupid to consent then?

 

[TheNazgulKing]

If it's as innate as any other sexual preference, then there's probably no cure, is there? People shake their heads about the fact people used to believe in gay conversion therapy, then they act like pedos can be fixed after a few dozen sessions with some quack with a pen and a notepad.

I doubt that pedophilia is an innate sexual preference for the same reason I doubt that people are born hard-wired with an irresistible sexual interest in size 7 patent red pumps wtih matching toenail polish. Pedophiles are either re-enacting childhood trauma or taking advantage of an easy sexual opportunity.

 

[ffo kcuF]

Everyone knows what a pedo is. Everyone knows what a child molester is. That's why they want to use an innocent sounding term like MAP instead.

Yeah but pedophile and child molester doesn't exactly cover all the bases, some people want to have "consensual" sex with 14-15yo's and still call themselves anti pedo and against rape, I just think we need a term to wrap them all up into one. And I don't think being described as a minor attracted person sounds very innocent, it still sounds bad to me, we should take the term MAP and stigmatize it.

Nick Rakieta for example hates child rapists and pedophiles, but also thinks age of consent is an arbitrary number, he's now in a grey area, what do you call that?

Maybe we don't need MAP, but a stigmatized term that describes adults who want to fuck people under the age of 18 is needed.

 

[Ly Erg]

Maybe we don't need MAP, but a stigmatized term that describes adults who want to fuck people under the age of 18 is needed.

There is a word (2 really) for that.

They are called Sexual Predators.

 

[POWER IN MISERY]

Maybe we don't need MAP, but a stigmatized term that describes adults who want to fuck people under the age of 18 is needed.

There is a word (2 really) for that.

They are called Sexual Predators.

his name is Anthony Cumia.

 

[ffo kcuF]

There is a word (2 really) for that.

They are called Sexual Predators.

Sure but that could also mean someone who wants to rape 80yo's

his name is Anthony Cumia.

lol ikr.

Cumia is a great example actually, claims he's against pedo's but openly declares he wants to fuck 13-17yo's, is he into hebephilia or ephebophilia?

Cumia's friends Chrissie Mayr and Brittany Venti have made references to 16-17yo, slowly trying to normalize it in their community's just like the groypers have done. These people will always push boundaries and that's why we need a stigmatized term to describe them.

Pedophilia, hebephilia and ephebophilia all need to be wrapped up into one word or term, it will make it easier to label these people and stigmatize them.

 

[Fields Of Rye]

The term "pedophilia" is denatured; ephebephilia, hebephilia, whatever you wan't to call it for the specifics of attraction is irrelevant and unimportant, pedophilia serves.

It is not simply "having sex with someone too young to consent". We talk a lot about whether or not someone can or can't consent but the truth is the average person will not feel attracted, nor can they feel attracted to realistic depictions of minors engaging in sexual activity. No hentaifags, I'm not talking about a stylized small breasted short stack in a school uniform. Anyone who has been on /v for any amount of time knows exactly what I'm talking about. This technology has existed for a long time. Normal people feel very uneasy. The pathways in our brain that go "hmmm sexy" do not trigger when staring at something whose appearance sets off "child".

The definitions of pedophilia as is serves a two sided purpose. One one hand, fucking someone on the 30th day of the 11th month of their 17th year on the planet really doesn't fucking matter. We all know someone doesn't magically turn of age when the clock strikes midnight. No shit. But the clear potential of decay (what about the 29th day? the 28th) means we bring down the hammer, fucking hard. On the far end, it exists to lock away the truly, fundamentally broken people in society. I don't know what it takes to disrupt the natural pathways which prevent adults from seeing children in a sexual light, I don't know if it can be trained clockwork orange style or molested away, or if it can even be fixed, but it's a sign you cannot be trusted.

 

[AnOminous]

The definitions of pedophilia as is serves a two sided purpose. One one hand, fucking someone on the 30th day of the 11th month of their 17th year on the planet really doesn't fucking matter.

If you can't wait 24 hours to fuck someone, even with the threat of prison, you aren't someone in control. You are an id monster ruled by your dick. Now this is what young men basically are which is why we have Romeo and Juliet exceptions where you aren't throwing a 19 year old in jail for sex that didn't harm anyone anyway, but if you're 30 and you can't even manage to keep your dick out of people who aren't legal, you'd do other shit if you could get away with it.

This is just the bare minimum of what doesn't get you behind bars, not some bullshit that requires a celibate saint to manage. That doesn't mean we approve of a 30 year old banging an 18 year old, just that not everything that isn't right is illegal. And the specific number is arbitrary, but really, outside of a pretty narrow range from something like 16 to 18, you deserve to get at least a funny look if you are way too eager to change it to lower it.

 

[Fields Of Rye]

If you can't wait 24 hours to fuck someone, even with the threat of prison, you aren't someone in control. You are an id monster ruled by your dick. Now this is what young men basically are which is why we have Romeo and Juliet exceptions where you aren't throwing a 19 year old in jail for sex that didn't harm anyone anyway, but if you're 30 and you can't even manage to keep your dick out of people who aren't legal, you'd do other shit if you could get away with it.

>One one hand, fucking someone on the 30th day of the 11th month of their 17th year on the planet really doesn't fucking matter. We all know someone doesn't magically turn of age when the clock strikes midnight. No shit. But the clear potential of decay (what about the 29th day? the 28th) means we bring down the hammer, fucking hard.

Kinda sounds like we're in agreement there.

 

[Kramer on the phone]

Wouldn't they be too stupid to consent then?

no? i'm talking about stupid adults not retards.

 

[Astro Loafo]

Idk if this is the gaylord troon side talking but it really depends on what is referred as pedophilia. I feel like people have skewed the meaning of pedophile so much so that almost anything is a pedophile now. Like oh these anime lolis are pedophilia, did you just look at that 16 yr! You're a pedophile! Did you just change that baby! MEN CANT CHANGE DIAPERS YOU FUCKING PEDOPHILE!

Like I get there's psychos out there who want to fk children. Idk I guess there's just a point where the word has spread out too thin and lost all meaning. Because if people really hated pedophiles, a lot if not all, politicians would be arrested or lynched.

But no. Feels more like an argument about how my morality is better than yours.

 

[Regio Consiglio]

Like oh these anime lolis are pedophilia,

Yes? Why did you felt to add a legit one among the other complains? Also it's mostly Americans who act as you do, as they are all over puritans in public since forever. The word is often misused but I have yet to see it used in good faith against someone who hasn't done anything at all, and anyway irl absolutely nobody calls you a pedo for having a 17yo gf at 18 it's only an internet thing

 

[Kermit Jizz]

Like oh these anime lolis are pedophilia

But this is actually true though

 

[Astro Loafo]

Yes? Why did you felt to add a legit one among the other complains? Also it's mostly Americans who act as you do, as they are all over puritans in public since forever. The word is often misused but I have yet to see it used in good faith against someone who hasn't done anything at all, and anyway irl absolutely nobody calls you a pedo for having a 17yo gf at 18 it's only an internet thing

Maybe it is a US thang. Idk I just wish real pedos like keffals and biden were behind bars.

 

[AnOminous]

Idk if this is the gaylord troon side talking but it really depends on what is referred as pedophilia. I feel like people have skewed the meaning of pedophile so much so that almost anything is a pedophile now. Like oh these anime lolis are pedophilia,

Oh this screaming six year old getting raped by an adult, that's pedophilia, how silly.

 

[Astro Loafo]

Oh this screaming six year old getting raped by an adult, that's pedophilia, how silly.

Yes but you gotta remember. Is this real life or a skit you're talking about. And yes, family guy did that skit.

 

[t(h)rash]

irl absolutely nobody calls you a pedo for having a 17yo gf at 18 it's only an internet thing

crazy how youtubers and other influencers will get cancelled into oblivion for things like that. kids will lambast and crucify funny instagram guy for doing that and then go to school the next day and pass by 18 year old seniors dating 17 year old seniors. insane

 

[SexPistol]

Anyone who touches a child deserves instant death. No questions asked.

lolicons may not touch real kids but if you watch them interact with each other you and how casually they talk about 6 year olds beings fuckable, you’ll still wish death upon them. It’s highly disturbing seeing them in their safe spaces and how comfortable they are sharing and comparing pictures and talking about how they like them looking younger or older. Or how toddlercon is ok if it doesn’t look realistic. They are just pedos in denial that would never admit to being attracted to real children outright.

I hate both with a passion but I was groomed for most of my teen years by men in their mid twenties so I am bias.

 

[Astro Loafo]

Anyone who touches a child deserves instant death. No questions asked.

lolicons may not touch real kids but if you watch them interact with each other you and how casually they talk about 6 year olds beings fuckable, you’ll still wish death upon them. It’s highly disturbing seeing them in their safe spaces and how comfortable they are sharing and comparing pictures and talking about how they like them looking younger or older. Or how toddlercon is ok if it doesn’t look realistic. They are just pedos in denial that would never admit to being attracted to real children outright.

I hate both with a passion but I was groomed for most of my teen years by men in their mid twenties so I am bias.

Yeah, but you have porn actresses that are as tall as 10 yr olds. Dressing up as children. And appealing to the pedo market while being 100% legal. But drawings are what get peoples attention.

Idk, I just find it weird that Shadman is a monster but Amai Liu is a queen.

 

[AnOminous]

Yeah, but you have porn actresses that are as tall as 10 yr olds. Dressing up as children. And appealing to the pedo market while being 100% legal. But drawings are what get peoples attention.

Idk, I just find it weird that Shadman is a monster but Amai Liu is a queen.

That's not necessarily 100% legal, it's just not often prosecuted. Paul Little (Max Hardcore) copped an obscenity rap and did federal prison time for such content, although the fact that his content was gross and disgusting beyond even that had more to do with it. They had also gone after him for rape and CP even though the actresses had the required paperwork under 18 U.S.C. § 2257, because they would sometimes claim to be underage despite not being so.

They didn't get him on those two but the obscenity rap stuck.

So material that isn't technically legally child porn can still run afoul of the federal (or state) obscenity laws, it's just that federal prosecutors very rarely ever go after it, and state prosecutors almost as rarely.