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If they actually nut up and stop the circular donations (I'm amazed they haven't before. They're literally letting users bypass the fees the entire service relies on), the fallout will be amazing.
Patreon Donation Charge Salt - Patreon Changes TOS; Lolcows Apoplectic
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but that is what they are apparently doing- and yes, pull up a seat, lets see how bright the flashburns are.
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Technically they aren’t stopping them. You can still send money to somebody, and have them send it back. However, now they lose money doing it.
Effectively getting rid of it without banning it.
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This thread needs more examples, even if it means crossposting
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Jake Alley hopes this totally ruins Patreon. Guess he's still salty that we discovered his identity from the leaked Patreon database.
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What the hell is the bearded gnome on about now?
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Most artists I've seen have gone over to ko-fi, doing the whole oh-so-cute "Buy me a coffee xd" when it obviously goes to anything but.
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Do it Dobson, ruin the last stream of income you have remaining.
Reminder that this is over forty fucking cents a month.
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Fuck "content creators". I hope they all end up on the street. The real heroes are the ones who fuck themselves up on skateboards.
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I like how he calls it "Official Post from Andrew Dobson" like he's an official and not just some fat lolcow nobody gives a fuck about.
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Andrew Dobson? THE Andrew Dobson? Why, he's one of the most influential cartoonists to ever live. SYAC has been a precious part of many people's childho....hahahahahaha, I can't say it with a straight face.
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THIS HAS BEEN A TEST OF THE EMERGENCY DOBSON BROADCAST SYSTEM
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"Small Business People"
The unfounded hubris here is simply astounding. He probably thought of that water spray as an assassination attempt. It's a wonder he even got out alive!
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@ all the headless chickens hoping Patreon straight up DIES for this.
I cannot help but to wonder:
If this over-reaction is how they behave for a fee that is mere pocket change, what will they do if their tin change can suddenly implodes?
Can the internet even handle that much salt?
I cannot help but to wonder:
If this over-reaction is how they behave for a fee that is mere pocket change, what will they do if their tin change can suddenly implodes?
Can the internet even handle that much salt?
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fftopic: a bit. I have a relative who is involved with BIG NAME HOLLYWOOD ENTERTAINMENT (support work for TV shows on basic cable)tl;dr Its about availability/accessibility if you want to make your living in entertainment.
First, LA isn't as expensive as you think if you stay out of the chi-chi areas, just stay in the striver burbs and you're fine. Lots of people have, "dead parent bungalows" they rent out for fairly cheap. But its more than just spending money on plane tickets vs. rent.
People here seem to have better reading comprehension than other places, but let me make this clear with all caps:
I AM TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY WANT TO MAKE SOMETHING OF THEMSELVES AND HAVE THE POTENTIAL OF DOING SO - I KNOW NONE OF THIS APPLIES TO THE POPULATION OF PATREOT LOLCOWS.
This is just to cover why a sane, talented person would chose to deal with LA. (And why Trannies and Lolcows move to LA in a cargo-cult aping of how people with actual dedication and talent have leveraged this to success.)
Your ability to be somewhere in 15 minutes can make or break you having a shot at landing whatever you're looking for. My relative has gotten jobs - and mind you this is all back-office stuff, they've never been at a shoot in a professional capacity - because they were the first person to show up when they heard a production was looking for someone. (now when they learn this is a deciding factor they generally say "thanks no thanks", but when they were starting out they didn't have that luxury.) Things change so rapidly* that unless you really bring something unique to the table, if you aren't local, you might as well not exist because there are 3 dozen other people just as or more qualified they can pick from who will be in their office within half an hour.
Once you get a reputation, enough that people know you do good reliable work, then you start being able to attend meetings via telephone because you've got someone to vouch for you. But when you're still building contacts, they want to see you face-to-face because of how full of bullshit everyone is. Also because sometimes they want you start work immediately because they're already behind schedule and don't have 2 hours let alone two weeks.
And that face-to-face stuff is important. You have to get out and make friends, because you'll get the inside scoop on jobs from the oddest places. They got job once because at a house party three months earlier, they helped someone light their cigarette on the stove because they were too wasted to work the knobs (This made my relative memorable enough that 3 months later the drunk called the mutual friend, "Don't you have a friend who does X? Are they working on anything? We need someone to do X for a new show,=."). So you join bowling leagues, book clubs, the church of scientology, or whatever bullshit you can that lets you meet people, and try to milk every connection you have for all its worth. You can't do that by flying in from out of state.
*They had a story where they were fired from a show, and security had been called to escort them off the studio. In the time it took security to walk them to the gate, 5-10 minutes, there had been shuffling at the top, the person who fired them was fired from the show. The new showrunner realized still needed someone to do the job my relative had been hired to do, so security was told over walkie-talkie to ask them if they wanted to come back and work for this new person. My cousin needed the job, said yes, so security gave them back their badge and sent them on their way.
People here seem to have better reading comprehension than other places, but let me make this clear with all caps:
I AM TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY WANT TO MAKE SOMETHING OF THEMSELVES AND HAVE THE POTENTIAL OF DOING SO - I KNOW NONE OF THIS APPLIES TO THE POPULATION OF PATREOT LOLCOWS.
This is just to cover why a sane, talented person would chose to deal with LA. (And why Trannies and Lolcows move to LA in a cargo-cult aping of how people with actual dedication and talent have leveraged this to success.)
Your ability to be somewhere in 15 minutes can make or break you having a shot at landing whatever you're looking for. My relative has gotten jobs - and mind you this is all back-office stuff, they've never been at a shoot in a professional capacity - because they were the first person to show up when they heard a production was looking for someone. (now when they learn this is a deciding factor they generally say "thanks no thanks", but when they were starting out they didn't have that luxury.) Things change so rapidly* that unless you really bring something unique to the table, if you aren't local, you might as well not exist because there are 3 dozen other people just as or more qualified they can pick from who will be in their office within half an hour.
Once you get a reputation, enough that people know you do good reliable work, then you start being able to attend meetings via telephone because you've got someone to vouch for you. But when you're still building contacts, they want to see you face-to-face because of how full of bullshit everyone is. Also because sometimes they want you start work immediately because they're already behind schedule and don't have 2 hours let alone two weeks.
And that face-to-face stuff is important. You have to get out and make friends, because you'll get the inside scoop on jobs from the oddest places. They got job once because at a house party three months earlier, they helped someone light their cigarette on the stove because they were too wasted to work the knobs (This made my relative memorable enough that 3 months later the drunk called the mutual friend, "Don't you have a friend who does X? Are they working on anything? We need someone to do X for a new show,=."). So you join bowling leagues, book clubs, the church of scientology, or whatever bullshit you can that lets you meet people, and try to milk every connection you have for all its worth. You can't do that by flying in from out of state.
*They had a story where they were fired from a show, and security had been called to escort them off the studio. In the time it took security to walk them to the gate, 5-10 minutes, there had been shuffling at the top, the person who fired them was fired from the show. The new showrunner realized still needed someone to do the job my relative had been hired to do, so security was told over walkie-talkie to ask them if they wanted to come back and work for this new person. My cousin needed the job, said yes, so security gave them back their badge and sent them on their way.
Anyway, yes Lolcows aren't doing any of this shit, and they should move to the lowest cost of living places to maximize the buying power of their hipster welfare dollar. But its not true that it doesn't matter.
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