OY VEY!!! Antisemitism!

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Hellbound Hellhound said:
This is precisely the kind of conspiratorial thinking I've been talking about. Right away, you attribute a nefarious agenda to the Jewish people, yet neglect to provide any evidence that would A) warrant singling out Jews in particular, and B) demonstrate that such an agenda is broadly characteristic of Jewish opinion.

The reality is that Jews tend to be quite heavily represented in positions of influence across the political spectrum: many central figures within the libertarian movement are/were Jewish, for instance, as were many of the architects of neoconservatism. The only way that you can paint a picture of a singular Jewish agenda is by ignoring all evidence to the contrary.

This is literally a mantra straight from Stormfront. You're either incredibly impressionable and misinformed, or you're just plain incompetent at hiding your true beliefs. I won't automatically ascribe malice to something which can just as easily be explained by ignorance, but your choice of words here puts the rest of your argument on pretty shaky ground, to say the least.

Why would Jews want to "destroy" white people, when so many of them are white themselves? Do you seriously think that the sort of activists who genuinely want to tear down Western culture are broadly on the same side as the Jews and Israel? Have you actually studied their views and listened to their message?

I'm really not understanding your argument here. You don't have to hate anyone in order to stand against Nazis and fascists.
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Of course (((you))) would say that.
 
Dom Cruise said:
All I'm saying is a significant number of Jews support modern leftist politics.
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In the United States, perhaps, but it's worth noting that in the US, the vast majority of Jews live in New York City, which is culturally much further to the left than the rest of America to begin with. I think that's a much better explanation of Jewish voting patterns than the fact that they're Jewish, because if you look to other countries, the left-wing association doesn't necessarily hold true. Here in the UK for instance, 70% of Jews vote Conservative.

The main issue I have with the way that these conversations are framed is how it's often implied that Jews have some kind of duplicitous loyalty; as if to say that a Jew will pretend to be your friend to your face, only to plot your downfall behind your back. This never seems to be assumed of other ethnic groups, and it's assumptions like this which form the basis of antisemitism. I point this out because I notice that a depressing number of people who perpetuate these kinds of beliefs don't even seem to be aware that they're doing it; it's become such a pervasive trope.

The partisan nature of these discussions is of little interest to me, because the truth is that antisemitism exists in roughly equal measure on all sides of the political spectrum, and it's always the same. There is no shortage of Jews involved in right-wing causes, just as there is no shortage of Jews involved in left-wing causes. It's the act of singling out these individuals on account of their Jewishness which I find to be deeply suspect, and I think you ought to as well.
 
Hellbound Hellhound said:
In the United States, perhaps, but it's worth noting that in the US, the vast majority of Jews live in New York City, which is culturally much further to the left than the rest of America to begin with. I think that's a much better explanation of Jewish voting patterns than the fact that they're Jewish, because if you look to other countries, the left-wing association doesn't necessarily hold true. Here in the UK for instance, 70% of Jews vote Conservative.

The main issue I have with the way that these conversations are framed is how it's often implied that Jews have some kind of duplicitous loyalty; as if to say that a Jew will pretend to be your friend to your face, only to plot your downfall behind your back. This never seems to be assumed of other ethnic groups, and it's assumptions like this which form the basis of antisemitism. I point this out because I notice that a depressing number of people who perpetuate these kinds of beliefs don't even seem to be aware that they're doing it; it's become such a pervasive trope.

The partisan nature of these discussions is of little interest to me, because the truth is that antisemitism exists in roughly equal measure on all sides of the political spectrum, and it's always the same. There is no shortage of Jews involved in right-wing causes, just as there is no shortage of Jews involved in left-wing causes. It's the act of singling out these individuals on account of their Jewishness which I find to be deeply suspect, and I think you ought to as well.
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You're right, but in today's identity politics obsessed era people will use their Jewish identity as a shield from criticism same as they will use their black identity, their female identity and so on.

That sort of thing has got to stop, that encourages people to judge others by group dynamics instead of by individual.
 
Dom Cruise said:
I can explain this, a lot of Christians believe that the existence of the state of Israel is a fulfillment of Biblical prophecy, it is in fact the key proponent of Biblical prophecy, that's the real reason why the Republican party is so pro-Israel.
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Huh, that's a good point.

Dom Cruise said:
What's that supposed to mean?
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He's accusing you of being a secret Jew.

Rafal Gan Ganowicz said:
Of course (((you))) would say that.
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Just assume Kiwifarms is a synagogue and we're all Jews lol.

Devyn said:
Based Negro:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Koll2tjLX_s
You can literally call for the genocide of the White race and nothing bad will happen to you, but say anything negative about the Self-Chosen Ones and you're fucked. Why is that? It's because White people don't hold the structural/institutional power in Western countries: Jews do. Noticing this fact is apparently anti-Semitic though. This is gaslighting on a massive fucking scale.

Malignant cunt (((Barbara Lerner Spectre))) calls for the destruction of Christian European ethnic societies:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=G45WthPTo24
They push for "diversity", flooding formerly White countries with turd worlders, then piss and moan about a subsequent rise in anti-Semitism. "The Jew cries out in pain as he strikes you."

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Mask off.
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- Which key institutions are you calling Jew controlled? Which specific Jews hold the structural/institutional power you're talking about? Keep in mind that Jew-friendly and Zionist are not synonyms for Jewish.
- Have you considered that there's a bunch of gentiles who think making the Jews sad will piss off their Christian god?
- Israel is also getting shipments of third worlders. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-54501546
-Shapeshifting is something everyone multiracial does. In a woke environment, you'll see every minority who formerly claimed a White identity shout "I'M NOT WHITE!" for their own safety. That doesn't mean they're to blame for the creation of that environment.
 
Dom Cruise said:
I can explain this, a lot of Christians believe that the existence of the state of Israel is a fulfillment of Biblical prophecy, it is in fact the key proponent of Biblical prophecy, that's the real reason why the Republican party is so pro-Israel.
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They also believe the nonsense about the US and Israel having similar beginnings and histories of fighting off enemies. They also get a lot campaign of money from them and they know that gravy train will derail the moment they speak out against israel in any way.

Dom Cruise said:
You're right, but in today's identity politics obsessed era people will use their Jewish identity as a shield from criticism same as they will use their black identity, their female identity and so on.

That sort of thing has got to stop, that encourages people to judge others by group dynamics instead of by individual.
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What does that matter? The second anyone notices group behavior some idiot pipes up and says "But it's not ALL jews, lol". As long as at least one jew pretends to be a democrat or pantomimes shaking a fist at israel it means no jew ever did anything wrong ever.
 
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💗Bitchstopher Columbitch💗 said:
- Which key institutions are you calling Jew controlled? Which specific Jews hold the structural/institutional power you're talking about? Keep in mind that Jew-friendly and Zionist are not synonyms for Jewish.
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1) International and domestic finance
2) News Media
3)Arts and culture (Hollywood, music, Big Sports )
4) Psychiatry
5) Academia, esp Humanities
6) Law

There are many more, lemme know if you need them listed

Sure, there are many decent , conservative Jews, but the leftist shitbag Jews account for a way bigger swath of the Jewish population, and are actively working to destroy Western Culture and values, and have been since at least the middle of the 1800s
 
Rafal Gan Ganowicz said:
1) International and domestic finance
2) News Media
3)Arts and culture (Hollywood, music, Big Sports )
4) Psychiatry
5) Academia, esp Humanities
6) Law

There are many more, lemme know if you need them listed

Sure, there are many decent , conservative Jews, but the leftist shitbag Jews account for a way bigger swath of the Jewish population, and are actively working to destroy Western Culture and values, and have been since at least the middle of the 1800s
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I think your problem is with leftism/globalism and not necessarily Jews as a whole.
 
It looks like I found @Hellbound Hellhound official anthem

Also if anti-semites want to really piss off Jews, they should look up to Chad Hadrian rather Virgin Hitler

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soft kitty said:
I think your problem is with leftism/globalism and not necessarily Jews as a whole.
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You are correct. But it's impossible to not notice the MASSIVE overrepresentation of such a tiny global demographic in every single vestige of leftist perfidy.
Make no mistake, when (hopefully) the Left is purged, we'll be hearing the reeeeeing about " those people they killed as Commies were disproportionately JEWISH!!" from the Commie stans. Funny how it's only allowed to be discussed when it serves the Left's purposes, eh?
 
Rafal Gan Ganowicz said:
You are correct. But it's impossible to not notice the MASSIVE overrepresentation of such a tiny global demographic in every single vestige of leftist perfidy.
Make no mistake, when (hopefully) the Left is purged, we'll be hearing the reeeeeing about " those people they killed as Commies were disproportionately JEWISH!!" from the Commie stans. Funny how it's only allowed to be discussed when it serves the Left's purposes, eh?
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They're over-represented in positions of power because they have the highest IQ on average of any other race. IQ is the single greatest predictor of success.
 
soft kitty said:
They're over-represented in positions of power because they have the highest IQ on average of any other race. IQ is the single greatest predictor of success.
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There are certain cultural indicators like stressing studying. But the IQ this is a dead end. Even if the studies (many suspicious) do turn out to be valid, that tiny IQ advantage cannot explain the discrepancy.

Don't think I didn't notice you switching track from Jews' involvement in leftist perfidy to Jews' success generally.
At this point, it's very much looking like a feature rather than a bug.
It's the fault of a willfull misrepresentation of the command for Tikkun Olam from leftists to be interpreted to endorse far-left causes, rather than it's historical and Halakhic intent.
 
Rafal Gan Ganowicz said:
Don't think I didn't notice you switching track from Jews' involvement in leftist perfidy to Jews' success generally.
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I switched to that because you were the one that brought up the 'over-represented' issue and I thought that IQ might be one of many plausible explanations. I don't know what you're implying but there wasn't any kind of agenda behind that.

I'd say, IQ is definitely part of it, if not the whole story, there is definitely a cultural component, as well.

The answer to the Jewish question is simple: we need an 'oy vey' rating.
 
soft kitty said:
I switched to that because you were the one that brought up the 'over-represented' issue and I thought that IQ might be one of many plausible explanations. I don't know what you're implying but there wasn't any kind of agenda behind that.

I'd say, IQ is definitely part of it, if not the whole story, there is definitely a cultural component, as well.

The answer to the Jewish question is simple: we need an 'oy vey' rating.
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Been saying that for a while, and agree heartily. Only question is should it be a happy merchant or a magen Dovid? BTW here's a good article about the tikkun olam thing:

www.jpost.com

Judaism under attack: The Orwellian hijack of tikkun olam

THE PRINCIPAL value of Judaism is justice itself (with compassion a close second). Contemporary “social” justice, however, hijacks the word and evacuates it of meaning.
www.jpost.com www.jpost.com
 
soft kitty said:
They're over-represented in positions of power because they have the highest IQ on average of any other race.
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No. Jews in America and Britain have an overall IQ mean somewhere between a half and a full standard deviation above the mean. A single standard deviation does not result in the amounts of over-representation we see. It's nepotism and cronyism.

soft kitty said:
Maybe for the same reason white liberals want to destroy white people?
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White liberals want to do that because that's what they were taught was the right thing, by jews in academia and hollywood.
 
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