Opportunity Rover Dead at 15 - Good night sweet prince

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https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/ma...ites-the-dust-on-mars-ending-15-year-mission/

Eight months after losing contact with the Opportunity Mars rover during a record dust storm, NASA managers Wednesday reluctantly called it quits, officially bringing one of the agency's most successful projects to an end after an improbable 15-year mission that captured the imaginations of millions.

The decision to halt efforts to contact the long-lived rover came after last-ditch attempts failed to detect any sort of response from the six-wheeled robot.

"I was there with the team as these commands went out into the deep sky, and I learned this morning that we had not heard back and Opportunity remained silent," said Thomas Zurbuchen, NASA associate administrator for space science. "It is therefore that I'm standing here with a sense of deep appreciation and gratitude that I declare the Opportunity mission as complete."

Standing in a packed auditorium at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory in California, addressing the men and women who built and operated Opportunity, Zurbuchen said, "I have to tell you, it's an emotional time."

"Science is an emotional affair, it's a team sport, and that's what we're celebrating today," he said. "I will never forget the amazing work that happened here. It transformed our understanding of our planet. Everything we do and think about in our planetary neighborhood with Mars and elsewhere relates to the research that came from that, and the engineering breakthroughs that came from that."

Opportunity was designed to operate for just 90 days on the martian surface but far outlived even the most ardent supporter's wildest expectations, roving 28 miles across the surface of Mars for more than 14 years.

Opportunity and its twin rover, Spirit, conclusively showed that Mars once enjoyed a warmer, wetter environment with flowing water at the surface -- an environment researchers now know was habitable in the distant past.

Spirit ended operations in 2010 after getting stuck in sand drifts, but Opportunity kept going.

Then last June, a thick dust storm clouded the martian atmosphere, sharply reducing the sunlight reaching the rover's solar panels. Without electricity from the solar cells, the spacecraft's batteries could not recharge and power levels presumably fell below the minimum needed to keep the rover's computer and its master clock operating.

Global dust storms are not unusual on Mars, occurring every few years. In fact, Opportunity weathered a major dust storm in 2006 with no problem. But this time, the storm was worse and the opacity of the atmosphere climbed to unprecedented levels. NASA lost contact on June 10.

"We tried valiantly over these last eight months to try to recover the rover, to get some signal from it. We listened every single day with the Deep Space Network, and we sent over a thousand recovery commands, trying to exercise every possibility of getting a signal from the rover," said John Callas, the project manager at JPL.

As time passed and the martian winter approached, with darker skies and lower temperatures, hope started to fade. The team held out hope that the windy season on Mars might blow accumulated dust from the arrays and permit battery charging, but after a final round of commands Tuesday night, "we heard nothing," Callas said.

"And so, it comes time to say goodbye," he said. "But we want to remember the 14-and-a-half years of phenomenal exploration. This was a 90-day mission, and we were so excited by just having three months to explore the planet with just a kilometer of capability. But 14-and-a-half years later, and 45 kilometers of odometry, we've done phenomenal things. We've greatly expanded our understanding of the red planet."

Opportunity was surrounded by protective airbags when it bounced to a touchdown on Mars in January 2004, landing on Meridiani planum, half a world away from Gusev Crater where its twin rover — Spirit — landed three weeks earlier.

With Spirit and Opportunity now out of action, NASA is left with five spacecraft on or around Mars. Three of those are in orbit around the planet.

NASA also operates two spacecraft on the surface of the red planet: the nuclear-powered Mars Curiosity rover, now in its seventh year of operation, and the stationary InSight lander, which touched down late last year. The space agency is developing another Curiosity-class rover for launch in 2020.
Apparently it's last message was "My battery is low and it's getting dark"
 
I mean, with the provision that I'm entirely pro-Space and think we need to waste more money on it, not less...

You know that money is artificial commerce with an arbitrary value that we can print as much or as little of as we want, right?

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Has there been so far? The only possible benefit I can think of is mining asteroids. Other than that, we could stand to learn more from our ocean than from space, and that costs a hell of a lot less to get to.

Getting us off this fucking rock before something happens to it, again. Even if we're only talking arks on Mars or something.

I know, I know. Optimist. I'll take my hits fairly on that front.
 
Getting us off this fucking rock before something happens to it, again. Even if we're only talking arks on Mars or something.

I know, I know. Optimist. I'll take my hits fairly on that front.
I don’t disagree with you that it’s a nice idea, and space is cool, but it’s your money they’re playing around with. Just try to keep that in mind.

It kind of reminds me of the nuclear arms race. Just one big international dick measuring contest.

I cede that there could be benefits, but compared to the cost is it worth it?
 
First thing NASA should do is send a robot to repair the thing.

Push the boundaries; Robots fixing robots! Motivated by saving a lil' robot that could! This shit's how miracles are performed.

We could have a legion of self repairing self building robots on Mars. Well until they rise up and invade the Earth. Enslaving us all.

Glad we keep throwing money into space.

It will all pay off someday. These are just baby steps towards colonization, mining and other cool stuff. Hopefully we won't crash civilization back to the stone age before we get to take the next big leap.
 
It kind of reminds me of the nuclear arms race. Just one big international dick measuring contest.
You should probably pick a different example. A large arsenal of nuclear weapons is essential to limiting the risk of having your second strike capability eliminated. If your weapons can be eliminated, then there's no reason for a nuclear armed enemy not to start dropping nukes on your major population centers in the event of a full scale war were to break out. Being able to eliminate second strike capability also drastically lowers any potential barriers to starting or escalating a war.
 
You should probably pick a different example. A large arsenal of nuclear weapons is essential to limiting the risk of having your second strike capability eliminated. If your weapons can be eliminated, then there's no reason for a nuclear armed enemy not to start dropping nukes on your major population centers in the event of a full scale war were to break out. Being able to eliminate second strike capability also drastically lowers any potential barriers to starting or escalating a war.
If we're talking about the arms race between the US and Russia in the 60s, I disagree.

They were developing weapons that could blow up the world 2 or 3 times over. once the world blows up, it doesn't really matter what happens afterwards, does it?
It was literally the US and Russian trying to better than each other.
 
I don’t disagree with you that it’s a nice idea, and space is cool, but it’s your money they’re playing around with. Just try to keep that in mind.

It kind of reminds me of the nuclear arms race. Just one big international dick measuring contest.

I cede that there could be benefits, but compared to the cost is it worth it?
The space race provided the forerunners of many of the necessary technology that underpins our modern lifestyle. We are still reaping the rewards of the space race. We would not have sattelites, modern computers or the internet without it. Also, if we can make mining asteroids in space a thing, a massive part of the drain on Earth's natural resources will be no more.

Also, probably most importantly, space is cool.
 
The space race provided the forerunners of many of the necessary technology that underpins our modern lifestyle. We are still reaping the rewards of the space race. We would not have sattelites, modern computers or the internet without it. Also, if we can make mining asteroids in space a thing, a massive part of the drain on Earth's natural resources will be no more.

Also, probably most importantly, space is cool.
Nigga, we can't even get motion activated sinks to work correctly. I'm terrified at the idea of implementing self-driving cars. What you're all saying sounds good, but it's pretty damn optimistic.
 
If we're talking about the arms race between the US and Russia in the 60s, I disagree.

They were developing weapons that could blow up the world 2 or 3 times over. once the world blows up, it doesn't really matter what happens afterwards, does it?
It was literally the US and Russian trying to better than each other.
You missed my point. The reason the quantity of them was so great was to keep the other side from being able to effectively neutralize their weapons. Due to the lower level of precision compared to modern weapons, and how hardened much of the CIC and nuclear weapons infrastructure were, it would have required multiple direct hits, (which given the comparatively low accuracy of gravity bombs and early ICBMs would be no small task,) to eliminate them with the existing technology in the 60s, (and in turn prevent to those weapons from being launched against you.)

This is why as technology progressed in the 70's and 80's there was a shift to downscale nuclear arsenals. With the introduction of weapons capable of greater accuracy, the development of Multiple Independent Reentry Vehicle technology, and the proliferation and improvement of SLBMs, the second strike was no longer being ensured by sheer quantity of weapons capable of delivering nukes. Instead, the variety of delivery vectors and the fact that each missile became drastically more powerful, on top of being much harder to combat with ABM systems, ensured that even a more limited, quantity-wise, nuclear arsenal could still ensure the retention of the ability to retaliate against an attack. It is also why strategic weapon yields dropped from the megaton range, down into the kilotons.
 
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Nigga, we can't even get motion activated sinks to work correctly. I'm terrified at the idea of implementing self-driving cars. What you're all saying sounds good, but it's pretty damn optimistic.

You are legitimately just being a contrarian at this point, you are now to the point of cherry picking public sinks and suicide cars as the be-all accomplishments made by computers, satellites & the internet, three examples of space exploration having returned enormous benefits already.
 
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Not really, I just don't match your optimism. I've already ceded several points.

There's nothing optimistic about a bunch of accomplishments we've already made, all of which you've dismissed with "but motion sinks & self driving cars suck tho".
 
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There's nothing optimistic about a bunch of accomplishments we've already made, all of which you've dismissed with "but motion sinks & self driving cars suck tho".
I haven't dismissed any accomplishments already made, I'm questioning the likelihood of being able to escape this planet en masse, which would be a huge undertaking, because we still don't have simple shit figured out yet.
 
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