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One Piece - I'm Gonna Be the Pirate King!
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I know they just renamed the Attack on Titan Thread, but that is no reason to confuse it and One Piece.
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Today is Yosaku's birthday!
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The "Kaido crashing Kid and Hawkins party to capture them was intentional" was a recent reveal so I figured that at least was worth spoilering.
While the Navy has no qualms executing pirates I don't think drowning prisoners would fit that category. Roger and Ace were two of the people they wanted to get rid of the most and both were put to the guillotine, the latter of which incited war against one of the Emperors and his entire fleet and would have ended in failure had Ace not responded to Akainu's bait. You gotta remember how committed they are to upholding their public image of justice. Why keep Doflamingo alive if they could just drown him? And even Impel Down has limits to how far they can go as evidenced by Shiryu's incarceration for slaughtering countless prisoners.
It says 40 but the execution methods named were guillotine, skewering and hanging. I think it's less luck that has kept him alive and more his body simply being impenetrable. We're seeing firsthand how powerful Oden and his swords were and all he could manage was a scar. The amount of people who can actually harm Kaido is in the single digits which is why he's treated as invincible. Things like drowning or poison on the other hand I wouldn't be so sure.
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The problem then becoming getting him into a position where he can be drowned.
The poisoning thing is even less certain because you have shit like Luffy and Zoro barely being affected by the poisoned animals and shit running around Wano that they ate (and Kin'emon only getting diarrhea), and none of them are even close to Big Mom and Kaidou's level of individual power. Back in the Totto Land arc, Perospero was freaking out over the possibility of Big Mom getting killed by a poisoned cake, but we're talking about a person whose stomach acid was conflated with actual acid upon debut; there's no real way of knowing if any amount of poison would've had the desired effect.
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Roger and Ace were somewhat special cases though, with Roger being the Pirate King and Ace being his child, remember the WG feared those two enough to make the choice to call Roger Gold instead of Gol D and they went after any child that had the remote chance of being his son.
According to Doffy himself it is only a matter of time till he gets assassinated, and as for why he isn't dead already? He was captured by Fujitora and handed off to Sengoku and Tsuru, two people who are likely not enthralled with certain actions of the World Government.
And yet at the same time they were perfectly okay with slaughtering a whole island that was researching history, and were fine with Lucci's murder of Hostages.
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Which circling back around is why I said if he was truly trying to kill himself he would just go for a swim in the ocean or any other method that doesn't involve trying to penetrate or harm his impenetrable body. He wants to die but he probably wants it to be in combat against an opponent strong enough to kill him and so he's biding his time and building his forces up until an opportunity arises to engage one.
Right now the only people I can see being strong enough to actually hold their own against him would be the Admirals (the original 3 and maybe the 2 replacements), Shanks and BM (Blackbeard's probably still not there yet as evidenced by him fleeing from Akainu after catching Bonney despite having obtained both Whitebeard's fruit and Impel Down crew members by that point). Whether any of them could actually defeat and kill him in combat I'm not sure.
They'd be hard-pressed to be able to genocide an island again with Morgans around nowadays (and we've seen how he responds to their threats) while Cipher Pol 9 was made up of assassins and its existence completely unknown to the general public. The WG is corrupt as shit but they portray themselves as just (to both the general public and lower-ranked marines) which is why it's hard to buy they'd use drowning as an execution method, regardless of how badly they wanted someone gone.
If they did actually try and drown Kaido that would mean he doesn't need to breathe but at this point we've no reason to believe he's anything less than (an indestructible) human (with a fetish for trying to self-harm).
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RE: This was pre-timeskip right when he'd just gotten the fruit and the new crew members were fresh out of prison. After 2 years of training, adjusting to shit, and with all new Devil Fruit powers in the crew (R.I.P. Absalom) the story might be a little different here.
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Yeah but even then with the new bounties just being revealed he's still almost half of what Kaido's is (2.25b v 4.61b) and that's factoring in Aokiji now too (presumably).
The main issue for BB himself is that negating Kaido's devil fruit probably wouldn't do all that much since he's rarely used it for anything other than transportation from what we've seen so far.
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Bounties = threat level, not power level. I'll point out that Kaido's been active as a pirate for about 40 years (and controlled Wano for about half that); Blackbeard's bounty went from 0 to 2+ billion in the span of two, and it gets a lot harder to get bounty increases once you get past 100 million, so that's something to keep in mind.
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And how long until Morgans meets the wrong end of Lucci or another (presumably equivalently powered) CP 0 Agent and Morgans ends up on Sakazuki's plate as deep fried tendies, Not saying he is weak btw but he was REAL quick to GTFO after punching Un-named CP Agent.
As an aside..I really wanna know how Lucci, Spandam and Kaku ended up in CP0, that has to be an interesting story
They are also 100% Willing to throw that out if they feel it is important, like with Combing the world to find Gol's child, that could not have been good for their reputation. Also Impel Down is a thing, they are willing to Starve People, boil people alive and let them freeze to death, but drowning is off limits? Seems like a strange line.
Yes but given the amount of times they have tried to kill him, and the fact he himself has attempted suicide it would be incredibly strange that at some point he hasn't ended up underwater just from a standpoint of "The World Government aren't outright morons." Like..they try to cut his head off with an Axe..are they really gonna try and use a Guillotine or a sword?
I just find it a stretch that after 6 or 7 attempts they wouldn't have thrown their hands up and said "Okay nothing we do works..fuck it toss him in a tank full of seawater."
There is also kind of the fact that BB is kind of a pussy, he was all fucking mouth when fighting Luffy, but he wimped out real fast the moment WB punched his face in. How much you wanna bet that his plan for getting the Road Poneglyphs is to have Shiryu ninja the damn things?
Edit : Random Guess I don't think is remotely on the mark, but Could Kaido be the person Doffy found out about the whole "Opp Opp fruit can grant immortality" thing from? That is a concept that was brought up once and discarded without much fanfare, I don't think it would be..but it is a possibility given that Doffy was Kaido's Smile source.
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Yeah but that's the threat level AFTER adding the guy who held his own against the Fleet Admiral for 10 days as an ally (though one almost certain to betray him at some point). Meanwhile Kaido's crew is filled with low-skill losers as we've seen throughout Wano but his 3rd-strongest man took on a fleet of ships being escorted by the former Fleet Admiral (I hope at some point we see exactly how powerful a fighter Sengoku actually is), Fujitora and Granny Tsuru and survived. Then you have King and Queen who are even stronger (the former yeeting Big Mom and her crew out of Wano) plus guys like Page One who are capable of standing up to newly-outfitted Raid Suit Sanji. In a battle of the crews at this point I'd bet on Kaido 100% of the time.
All that isn't to say I don't see Blackbeard as a threat, though as I do believe he'll wind up being the final boss of the series. His opening introduction in the bar and takedown of Ace seem to scream revenge fight and he's shown he's patient enough to wait for opportunities to make his crew stronger so it seems likely he'll end up being the last Yonko standing (besides Shanks) and the last thing between Luffy and the OP.
Yeah but at this point it seems likely someone else would step up in Morgan's place. Plus it's unlikely Morgans is gonna let any Marines or anyone he doesn't know near him anytime soon either after the last incident and any future assassins would not only need to track him down but likely find a way to board his flying ship which is no easy task. Not to mention the risk another failed attempt on the world's most famous reporter would pose.
Most of the population were completely unaware Roger had a child until Sengoku's announcement, though, right? They know how to operate in secret. Likewise the extreme security and difficulty in even accessing Impel Down means most people never have any idea of what goes down there. And ID is designed around torturing prisoners, not killing them. Mr. 2 Bon Clay ensured the biggest breakout in the prison's history was a success and Magellan didn't kill him. Same with all the level 6 prisoners they've had over the years and Shiryu being incarcerated for doing it himself.
But again, in the rare times the Marines decide to execute a prisoner they usually try methods viewed as humane (at least for the time period). Guillotine, firing squad, body piercing are all relatively quick and painless compared to something like drowning or lighting them on fire. While the 5 Elders probably wouldn't have any qualms with it, I dunno if Sengoku or Kong would have allowed it. Remember, the Impel Down coverup enraged Sengoku so much he resigned. We don't know the exact details of Kaido's numerous captures and execution attempts either, it simply states he ran afoul of both the Marines and other pirates meaning there's a good chance he could have been subjected to the same thing more than once too.
Yeah but to be fair at that point he was completely fucked. Newgate was determined to use the last of his power and life to take Blackbeard down and even without his fruit he could have easily bashed Teach's head into mush with just his fists. Now that he has both his and WBs powers and 2 years of training with them he's definitely one of the most dangerous characters in OP. Whitebeard had quite a lot of powerful men in his crew but they were no match in the revenge war against BB.
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Blackbeard =/= Blackbeard Pirates
That 2 billion berry bounty is his, not his crew's. By your logic the bounty that Kaidou has isn't because of his fucking insane power, but because of his crew's "strength". The Disasters and the Ten Titanic Captains have all been shown (manga and databook) to have their own bounties.
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Yes but I'm saying that even in a full-on battle of crews I'd still bet on Kaido at this point.
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Kingdew, the captain of the 11th Division of the Whitebeard Pirates, has his birthday today.
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Artists Rendering The Look of this Weapon if this Theory is true.
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Maria, the woman mistaken for a Hiking Bear, has her birthday today. So does Raideen, a giant who trained Hajrudin.