One Piece - I'm Gonna Be the Pirate King!

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pretty interesting chapter and it seems loki really is just going to be super misunderstood. its nice we have an actual name for the powers imu gives people now and it furthers my belief that imu has the devil devil fruit. which allows people to make contracts or deals with the devil.

things like domi reversi are his awakened fruit ability where he can just force lower level contracts onto people and turn them into demons more or less.

also as far as shanks is concerned i have a feeling he is trying to find the nika fruit or at least slow things down. luffy casually eating the fruit when shanks finally managed to find it just becomes funnier every time.

i do wonder though if shanks does still have a contract with imu that even he is unaware of. which is why he is allowed to live and perhaps that is how we get luffy vs shanks. much like rocks shanks will get controlled by imu and luffy will be forced to kill him.
 
Imagine getting this filtered by dramatic irony.
Harald is still the king of the faggots. Yes, he is the artificer of the destruction of his nation just to try and pway nice with people that use him as a cudgel and dark operative. That fact doesn't change. Harald singlehandedly ruined Elbaf and is doing it with a dopey grin while groveling to his new masters. Will there be more to it? likely, the domi reversi wouldn't have been needed if he was a 100% reliable peon.

But the damage to Elbaf is inmense and he should be remembered with hatred and disdain while Loki will hopefully be seen as the restorer of the pride of Elbaf. You can be less of a raider and do more comerce, but you are still a warrior nation at heart and submitting yourself to fucking humans and their dodgy as fuck world goverment is a joke and should have been treated as such by all elbafans.

As for the rest of the chapter, it's stupedly obvious to me that Shanks is bullshitting the god knights, he fucking freed Fisher Tiger, what more do you want? Biggest question for me now is if he left is arm get chomped on purpose or not to remove the mark.
 
Imagine getting this filtered by dramatic irony.
I understand the irony, but I find the cliche boring and it’s been done previously. The Dressrosa King and Oden had the same shit where they made deals with the devil, sometimes naively and both in duress.

The issue is that Harald is just an incredible pussy. His justification also just feels incredibly bad, even for One Piece. Even with irony he’s just a weak coward. He at some point takes no shit, but then Ida’s pussy ruins him and he loses any ability to think outside of “Ida wants me to make peace with the country everyone has warned me against.”

Otohime was vastly better. I’d prefer if Ida was portrayed as a fucking retard with a heart of gold. Her time in the flashback is really underdeveloped and it might be personal experience of knowing a woman who married a Jap and had a mother-in-law do the whole “barbarian wife” bullshit, but xenophobia of the native giants is poorly done.
 


Is he known as a member of the Rodgers pirates? In flash backs we see him just in the crowd of execution and no one seemed to notice the apprentice. Even Harald appears to not really remember him.
To be fair, no one seemed to remember who Buggy was prior to the Impel Down escape, and he was at the same rank in Roger's crew that Shanks was.
 
The issue is that Harald is just an incredible pussy. His justification also just feels incredibly bad, even for One Piece. Even with irony he’s just a weak coward. He at some point takes no shit, but then Ida’s pussy ruins him and he loses any ability to think outside of “Ida wants me to make peace with the country everyone has warned me against.”
You really seem to think that Harald acting like a "YN" was him being "cool" and strong. He was not. Ida was right that he should not go around raiding people. At no point do we see her tell him to befriend the WG. She just told him to not be an asshole. She even told him to "choose better friends" when Harald said that he wanted to ally with the WG (which she also said in regards to Rocks too). She clearly did not trust the WG, where did you get that she did?
 
Yeah I don't know what Hodge is on about.

Although I wouldn't be surprised if it was influence from the official wife (Loki's mom) and her clan's elders.

Seems more fitting honestly.
At Ch. 1157, Ida tells Harald to choose his friends wisely. It was meant to be half-jokingly as she wanted to tease Rocks a bit but she clearly was not in agreement that the WG was a good choice for an ally either. I do not feel like we are reading the same story as this guy. He seems to have imagined a few chapters.
 
And Shanks was wearing the straw hat at that point and was cool with Lufy hanging around him and went to save Luffy without thinking about it. Again, this goes beyond some kind of undercover work i you ask me, and again, Shanks being revealed as some kind of evil would be a pretty stupid plot twist.
I love that nobody can tell if Shanks is going undercover as a pirate, or if he's going undercover as a God Knight. He could do whatever the hell he wants as long as it doesn't go against Imu's status quo. He has the potential to be an agent of chaos. Given that he had an in with the world government's elite warriors, he's got to have known about the Gum Gum fruit's true nature, so either he knowingly let Luffy live with the fruit because he had faith in Nika's "decision," or he saved Luffy and didn't totally level his hometown instead for the sake of not blowing cover in front of his men. I wonder if Uta will ever be canon.
 
Otohime was vastly better
Of course Otohime was better, she was shown to be objectively correct within the story itself. To the extent the consequences of her actions were still threatening to the CDs a full decade after her death. But Ida doesn’t exist to motivate Harald, she clearly exists to motivate Loki who, despite the extensive diversion to reveal the events of the God Valley Incident, this flashback exists to develop.
 
Of course Otohime was better, she was shown to be objectively correct within the story itself. To the extent the consequences of her actions were still threatening to the CDs a full decade after her death. But Ida doesn’t exist to motivate Harald, she clearly exists to motivate Loki who, despite the extensive diversion to reveal the events of the God Valley Incident, this flashback exists to develop.
The difference was that Otohime was trying to make vast changes while Ida was sticking to small ones. And there is a reason for that: Otohime's people needed the changes faster than Elbaph did. Fishman Island was constantly invaded due to its geographic location and the slave trade. Elbaph is a bigger threat to most who try to invade than Fishman Island is. Also, most people think Elbaph is a desert due to the Underworld so there is little interest.
 
Of course Otohime was better, she was shown to be objectively correct within the story itself. To the extent the consequences of her actions were still threatening to the CDs a full decade after her death. But Ida doesn’t exist to motivate Harald, she clearly exists to motivate Loki who, despite the extensive diversion to reveal the events of the God Valley Incident, this flashback exists to develop.
More that there is some suffering for her stance. She’d right by the narrative, but it’s less patronizing. She gets the shit slapped out of her and at least gets shot for her beliefs.
 
She knows Brook
Wasn't it established that it was because of Brook's "Soul King" persona from the timeskip?

i do wonder though if shanks does still have a contract with imu that even he is unaware of. which is why he is allowed to live and perhaps that is how we get luffy vs shanks. much like rocks shanks will get controlled by imu and luffy will be forced to kill him.
If anything, that could get us Luffy vs Imu.

Biggest question for me now is if he left is arm get chomped on purpose or not to remove the mark.
I'm kind of torn. It seems like the kind of pragmatic move he would do, but at the same time, Shanks at that point was seen as a selfless guy who cared for his crew and his friends, and Luffy. Giving up his arm and treating it like no big deal may seem like a tactical move if it means getting rid of somebody controlling you, but Oda has always shown that, as Shanks, he is selfless and a genuine desire to keep Lufy safe. Also, Everything about him being a pirate, including Luffy looking to surpass Shanks and be Pirate King like Roger, wouldn't be something befitting of a servant of Imu or a Celestial Dragon or a family of Shanks' family's status, which is all about treating people like crap.
 
I think some people let the whole world government = globalists joke infect their view of the story. From the perspective of most of the people in the OP world the WG are the good guys or at worst a flawed system that is still better than any alternative.
 
I think some people let the whole world government = globalists joke infect their view of the story.
Would it be safe to say 4Chan was a mistake?
From the perspective of most of the people in the OP world the WG are the good guys or at worst a flawed system that is still better than any alternative.
How much of that is because they don’t know about Imu? Or because they don’t cross paths with Celestial Dragons?
 
How much of that is because they don’t know about Imu? Or because they don’t cross paths with Celestial Dragons?
96,47%.

Do you guys think that Loki feels guilt for Ida's death? His attitude was probably interpreted as him hating her and his relatives took that as support for her murder. I assume that not being more open about loving her hurt him as it might have lead to this.
 
He at some point takes no shit, but then Ida’s pussy ruins him and he loses any ability to think outside of “Ida wants me to make peace with the country everyone has warned me against.”
@Incecticyder covers it perfectly in the next post. But Ida didn't say "Harald, become a faggot and damn your nation to be used and abused by evil oligarcs", she just said "I've coexisted with humans, they were nice to me and are terrified of you for legitimate reasons, maybe rollback the raiding". Harald is the one obsessed with world recognition when mending relations with the 5 neighboring islands would have been more than enough. Specially with how long lived giants are that can mend relations for multiple human generations.
You really seem to think that Harald acting like a "YN" was him being "cool" and strong. He was not. Ida was right that he should not go around raiding people. At no point do we see her tell him to befriend the WG. She just told him to not be an asshole. She even told him to "choose better friends" when Harald said that he wanted to ally with the WG (which she also said in regards to Rocks too). She clearly did not trust the WG, where did you get that she did?
Ida has been shown to be INCREDIBLY hands off and to not hold grudges. She is seen like a pariah in a chunk of Elbaf society yet she holds no grudges and respects how to the standard Elbafan she's a sort of pretender seducing the king. If anything, her being so hands off is what lets Harald cook himself into insanity. Ida just said be nicer to humans, mutual friendship is possible, not grovel and let your ass get pounded by them.

Wasn't it established that it was because of Brook's "Soul King" persona from the timeskip?
Brook and Gunko know each other from when Brook was a royal guard in his kingdom. Not clear on the hows and whys, but that's what I remember reading.
There was also a flashback from when Brook was in the Navy.
Royal guard in his nations army, as far as I'm aware Brook has never been part of the navy. He was more like Kyros.
I think some people let the whole world government = globalists joke infect their view of the story. From the perspective of most of the people in the OP world the WG are the good guys or at worst a flawed system that is still better than any alternative.
Fair point, we do see behind the curtain, but Harald after fucking god valley still went all in, even if he didn't have the full picture. That should have been his "what the hell am I doing" moment and instead he doubled, tripled and cuadrupled down because he was too much of a FAGGOT to accept the reality that he enabled his friend's death for nothing. I sympathize with Loki, I understand what Ida meant, but Harald just loses me more and more each chapter. I'm waiting for realization to hit him like a bag of bricks once domi reversi happens. I guess his whole deal is to personify "good intentions pave the way to hell" but that I get it doesn't mean I won't despise him for it.

On a separate topic. I understand the value on paper of Elbaf giants, but in practice I've seen enough monsters in OP to know that half the admirals could solo Elbaf. When you have such obscenely powerful individuals running around, I have a hard time believing that elbafans are the be all and end all of military might. Ignoring King's people seem to be extint, those fuckers seem a LOT more dangerous to me.
 
As for the scar, I'm not too sure if this was the time of the scar happening because I think this chapter flashback is before Blackbeard had established himself as a pirate to the point where he and Shanks would cross paths.
Blackbeard had already been sailing with the Whitebeard Pirates for a while, so they were at least mildly acquainted. In the Ace's Story novel (part 2), he said he got the scar in the East Blue, and when Ace brought it up later, Thatch had no idea what he was talking about. The book shows that the Whitebeard Pirates don't all spend their time on the ships, they go out and get shit done to maintain the territory. Blackbeard had to have assembled his crew at some point before killed Thatch and bailed (Laffitte is from the West Blue).

The question now is what exactly went down and why it did. When Shanks met with Whitebeard, he explained his biggest concern being that a random goon within the crew who blends in with the scenery turned out to be stupid powerful and didn't do anything with it or to reflect it for as long as he did UNTIL he did. Which, thanks to the current flashback, we have pretty good ideas as to why.

My guess? The fight may or may not have been a random encounter where Teech let something slip he shouldn't have, and THAT'S what prompted Shanks to hit up Sacred Marijoa and "claim his birthright" (because that's a whole ass decade between him meeting Harald as a fellow Devoted Blade of God and Gold Roger's death.
 
half the admirals could solo Elbaf.
Any admiral would be a massive overkill, if three god knights managed to bring them to their knees. If not for SHs and Gaban, none of the knights would have even been forced to use their regeneration.
As I mentioned before, giants (outside of Harald and Loki) never did anything justifying their hype, and their almost every appearance just shows that the bigger they are, the harder they fall, so it is unclear why anyone even considers them a big deal (pun intended). Sure, an average giant pirate can easily wipe a crew of scrub pirates by himself, but that doesn't mean anything in the world, where numbers of scrubs don't matter, and the leader is routinely stronger than his entire organization put together.
 
Any admiral would be a massive overkill
Only reason I didn't say this is that I have my doubts about Green Bull's competence. but any other of the admiraks decimates them.

And yeah, the logistics of giants is also a nightmare. Just feeding them and moving them around seems like a huge requirement and we have seen so many giants eat shit in preskip times to consoder them much of a multiplier.
 
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