One Piece - I'm Gonna Be the Pirate King!

[Morethanabitfoolish]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=fZQ65AS93Vw

Cute as it is they 100% should have just redone the Broggy Ball game with Lakers clothing instead.

 

[Tetragrammaton]

i watched the most recent episode of the anime since they are at the part where they go over kumas past its okay so far though i am finally noticing some changes in the animation that make things feel off. that aside i found garling having blonde hair when he was younger to be interesting since i thought he had red hair like shanks. also excited to see how much of god valley they bother to animate and if we get anymore hints about things that may not have been as obvious in the manga.


also the buccaneer people being connected to giants makes me wonder if they came from a time where all the various races of people were more united and that is why they got killed off because its evidence that could lead people to the void century.

 

[retartedconspiratard]

also the buccaneer people being connected to giants makes me wonder if they came from a time where all the various races of people were more united and that is why they got killed off because its evidence that could lead people to the void century.

Saturn did say they committed a crime which could be themn aligning with Joyboy. I am getting the feeling that One Piece is just becoming a libtards racial fantasy.

 

[Random Internet Person]

i watched the most recent episode of the anime since they are at the part where they go over kumas past its okay so far though i am finally noticing some changes in the animation that make things feel off. that aside i found garling having blonde hair when he was younger to be interesting since i thought he had red hair like shanks. also excited to see how much of god valley they bother to animate and if we get anymore hints about things that may not have been as obvious in the manga.


also the buccaneer people being connected to giants makes me wonder if they came from a time where all the various races of people were more united and that is why they got killed off because its evidence that could lead people to the void century.

Saturn did say they committed a crime which could be themn aligning with Joyboy.

It would make sense, considering the mural Franky saw and how the Straw Hats have made friends with folks of so many different races, species, and backgrounds. All that's missing now is why Luffy leads them into battle.

 

[6MillionCoofs]

Spoiler: first lot of spoilers are out

Imu: I GAVE YOU ONE JOB! THAT’S IT. DOING IT MYSELF!

Also ImuGunko was true.

Also I’m going to assume based on Imu being pissed, going to be Imu can shut off bits of his powers out of spite if anyone pisses him off. Not to kill them but to make a point.

Time dilation might be real. Or they’ve actually been there for 30 minutes or an hour and Imu wanted them done in 10mins.

Either way, boss is pissed. Gunko is mind controlled.

Gunko also confirmed to be hag and to know Brook from when before he was pirate.

So Imu is either in Lili’s body or Joy Boy’s most likely or Gunko’s somehow or/and the abyss allows him to take control whenever wants.

 

[Stab You in the Back]

Spoiler: first lot of spoilers are out

Imu: I GAVE YOU ONE JOB! THAT’S IT. DOING IT MYSELF!

Also ImuGunko was true.

Also I’m going to assume based on Imu being pissed, going to be Imu can shut off bits of his powers out of spite if anyone pisses him off. Not to kill them but to make a point.

Time dilation might be real. Or they’ve actually been there for 30 minutes or an hour and Imu wanted them done in 10mins.

Either way, boss is pissed. Gunko is mind controlled.

Gunko also confirmed to be hag and to know Brook from when before he was pirate.

So Imu is either in Lili’s body or Joy Boy’s most likely or Gunko’s somehow or/and the abyss allows him to take control whenever wants.

Can't wait for the retcon

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where Shanks had the dark mark and losing his arm freed him from Imu's control.

 

[6MillionCoofs]

Can't wait for the retcon

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where Shanks had the dark mark and losing his arm freed him from Imu's control.

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High chance of that happening I feel. Shanks being marked would make sense of a lot of things. It practically explains everything regarding Shanks whilst also pulling the ‘bad guy was here from the start’ trope and giving Luffy and Shanks and Shanks and Blackbeard reasons to fight to the death. Blackbeard was targeting Imu all along.

The real kicker coukd be Imu could have grown back the arm but was so pissed he choose not to. A ‘you let someone else have the Fruit, I’m pissed, you live with the reminder’

Importantly it would explain why Shanks had no reaction to losing his arm. Imu’s power made so it did not hurt.

…holy shit. When Mihawk said Shanks was half the man he used to be because he lost an arm. He meant it literally

Might even explain why the Gods Knights left Shanks with Roger. Imu had a shortcut to laughtale.

 

[Random Internet Person]

Can't wait for the retcon

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where Shanks had the dark mark and losing his arm freed him from Imu's control.

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High chance of that happening I feel. Shanks being marked would make sense of a lot of things. It practically explains everything regarding Shanks whilst also pulling the ‘bad guy was here from the start’ trope and giving Luffy and Shanks and Shanks and Blackbeard reasons to fight to the death.

The real kicker coukd be Imu could have grown back the arm but was so pissed he choose not to. A ‘you let someone else have this you live with the reminder’

Importantly it would explain why Shanks had no reaction to losing his arm. Imu’s power made so it did not hurt.

…holy shit. When Mihawk said Shanks was half the man he used to be because he lost an arm. He meant it literally

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I thought it was said that Blackbeard gave Shanks the scar over his eye. Also, if Shanks was an agent of Imu or under Imu’s control, it’d make zero sense to have Imu be cool with Shanks being with Roger for as long as he did, especially when he was going for The One Piece. And then he stole the Gum Gum Fruit after it had already had its bigger implications censored and suppressed.

And I REALLY doubt Imu would be cool with Luffy also going for The One Piece, which Shanks is now doing as well. And if Shanks was an agent of Imu, he certainly wouldn’t be so chill about Luffy eating the devil fruit he stole, or at least he wouldn’t be going off to save Luffy from being eaten or drowning since his death would mean the Gomu Gomu no Mi returning to circulation, which means Imu and Shanks can go find it and claim it for their own reasons again.

And Shanks certainly wouldn’t be supporting Luffy’s aim to become Pirate King , to the point of giving Luffy his hat with a promise to return it once he “becomes a great pirate” (I believe those were the actual words, but I guess everyone assumes it means once Luffy is declared Pirate King).

I know Oda is really waiting on doing the full extent of Shanks and his backstory and his motivations and reasoning for his actions, much like he’s holding off on going into extreme details of the lore because of how it connects to the present and specifically how Luffy factors into it. But this idea of Shanks being some kind of evil never sits right with me.

 

[6MillionCoofs]

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I thought it was said that Blackbeard gave Shanks the scar over his eye. Also, if Shanks was an agent of Imu or under Imu’s control, it’d make zero sense to have Imu be cool with Shanks being with Roger for as long as he did, especially when he was going for The One Piece. And then he stole the Gum Gum Fruit after it had already had its bigger implications censored and suppressed.

It was said Blackbeard gave Shanks his scar. I’m saying before that Shanks eye might have been Gunko coded. And it was because of Imu that Blackbeard went after him.

Of course it makes sense for Imu to be cool with Shanks chilling with Roger. Gives him an inside man.

Did Shanks steal the Gum Gum or is that what the ship it was on think? Perhaps the plan was always for Shanks to eat it. But Shanks couldn’t just rock up and explain thinfs. Too many questions.

So ‘opps, jail for losing important thing’ instead.

And maybe Imu concluded that not having to rehunt the fruit and knowing where it was was better.

Chances are high he needs Joy Boy alive and caught.

Not saying Shanks is evil. I’m saying Imu could control him and ImuShanks was the original plan.

Because now we have confirmation Imu can control bodies, bet the plan was for someone to get the Fruit and Imu to take that body.

And people have already noted that Moria and Imu seem the same. So Imu wanting to try and steal Luffy’s body is on the table now.

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

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Might even explain why the Gods Knights left Shanks with Roger. Imu had a shortcut to laughtale.

I don't think Imu knew Laugh Tale existed pre-Roger landing on it, we know 2 of the Red Poneglyphs were completely Isolated from the world and the third was kept on Fishman Island which isn't exactly a place where the world government would just go to for shits and giggles

 

[Random Internet Person]

I don't think Imu knew Laugh Tale existed pre-Roger landing on it, we know 2 of the Red Poneglyphs were completely Isolated from the world and the third was kept on Fishman Island which isn't exactly a place where the world government would just go to for shits and giggles

I doubt that. If Imu is the all powerful secret ruler of the world, who’s implied to be around for centuries, I have to believe that Imu had to have a hand in suppressing things like Laugh Tale being a thing. Especially since Imu gives the Gorosei every command that must be carried out.

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

I doubt that. If Imu is the all powerful secret ruler of the world, who’s implied to be around for centuries, I have to believe that Imu had to have a hand in suppressing thing like Laugh Tale being a thing. Especially since Imu gives the Gorosei every command that must be carried out.

Point, well I will change my opinion to Imu having no clue that Roger having the desire or chance to go to Laugh Tale. We know for a Fact that Roger couldn't even speculate on it's existence until after he got to Load Star...and was hard locked until Oden fell into his lap.

 

[6MillionCoofs]

I don't think Imu knew Laugh Tale existed pre-Roger landing on it, we know 2 of the Red Poneglyphs were completely Isolated from the world and the third was kept on Fishman Island which isn't exactly a place where the world government would just go to for shits and giggles

Just seems suspect that the son of their strongest dude just happened to get into a chest that Roger happened to get and then the WG seemed ok with Shanks being on the crew for forever. If Imu has away of mind controlling it would make sense.

You’d also get Shanks spooking buggy causing him to eat the Fruit and get sick and their friendship screwing over bigger plans. Which would be funny.

Also Imu confirmed being able to body swap to me confirms ImuVivi will be a thing and he’ll be able to pass because due to knowing JB he knows what the X means

 

[Snake of Diamond]

Just catching up

Robin came in clutch (pun not intended) and ultimately brought some time. That was a really cool moment in the chapter.

 

[Tetragrammaton]

Just seems suspect that the son of their strongest dude just happened to get into a chest that Roger happened to get and then the WG seemed ok with Shanks being on the crew for forever. If Imu has away of mind controlling it would make sense.

You’d also get Shanks spooking buggy causing him to eat the Fruit and get sick and their friendship screwing over bigger plans. Which would be funny.

Also Imu confirmed being able to body swap to me confirms ImuVivi will be a thing and he’ll be able to pass because due to knowing JB he knows what the X means

i am of the belief that shanks escaped before whatever happened to the other gods knights happened to him. which to me says all the gods knights were regular humans at first before giving themselves to imu. similar to how kuma was just a strong dude before letting vegapunk make him into a pacifista. giving up part of yourself to become stronger seems to be a running thing after all.

the thing im wondering however is what happened when shanks went back to mary geoise? because it could be possible that upon his return imu got him and is just waiting to take control now when the time is right which is how we get luffy vs shanks.

given how luffy has a very hard time fighting people who are not either attacking him or just outright hurting his friends imu forcing shanks to fight luffy might even be the thing that pushes luffy over the edge and results in him wanting to take down imu

 

[6MillionCoofs]

i am of the belief that shanks escaped before whatever happened to the other gods knights happened to him. which to me says all the gods knights were regular humans at first before giving themselves to imu. similar to how kuma was just a strong dude before letting vegapunk make him into a pacifista. giving up part of yourself to become stronger seems to be a running thing after all.

the thing im wondering however is what happened when shanks went back to mary geoise? because it could be possible that upon his return imu got him and is just waiting to take control now when the time is right which is how we get luffy vs shanks.

given how luffy has a very hard time fighting people who are not either attacking him or just outright hurting his friends imu forcing shanks to fight luffy might even be the thing that pushes luffy over the edge and results in him wanting to take down imu

Given the fact that Shanks lost an arm and was not bothered in the slightest and how he is a mediator in the world so to speak and how connected his family are to Imu there is straight up the possibility that Shanks was OK with being Imu’s eyes so to speak but convinced him he could be a bit more chill about things.

Even in Egghead Imu was all ‘killing you because you let JB go’ but he didn’t follow after him. Even his showing up on Elbaf is ‘you guys are taking way too long, stuff is going to hell and I’m that mad I’m doing your job for you’. He isn’t there to get Luffy.

Like Imu is all ‘if we can we will but it is not crucial’

There has to be a reason for that if Nikka terrifies Imu that much.

So I’m with you on thinking Imu is going to use Shanks to fight. I wouldn’t also wouldn’t be surprised if Luffy and Shanks are fighting normally only for Imu to cut in and regrow Shanks arm and give him a power boost as a result.

Considering how Oda is ramping things up, no way in hell the Shanks fight is going to be lighthearted fun.

 

[Random Internet Person]

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Did Shanks steal the Gum Gum or is that what the ship it was on think? Perhaps the plan was always for Shanks to eat it. But Shanks couldn’t just rock up and explain thinfs. Too many questions.

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But if the plan was for Shanks to eat it, why would Shnks keep it in a chest where anybody could take it, like what Luffy did?

, it the thing im wondering however is what happened when shanks went back to mary geoise?

Was it ever established that it was Shanks? Because of the reveal of Shamrock being a twin, the way it was framed it could have been either of them.

because it could be possible that upon his return imu got him and is just waiting to take control now when the time is right which is how we get luffy vs shanks.

I doubt that. Ben Beckman alone seems like the kind of guy to recognize something is up. And even then, he attacked Greenbull, an admiral, so Shanks is an enemy of the WG.

given how luffy has a very hard time fighting people who are not either attacking him or just outright hurting his friends imu forcing shanks to fight luffy might even be the thing that pushes luffy over the edge and results in him wanting to take down imu

It's possible, but with everything I've seen, Luffy and Shanks seem to be at peace about the two having to fight. If anything, I think their friendly-ish showdown gets interrupted, or Shanks is killed or incapacitated, leading Luffy to get pissed off instead of going catatonic from shock to show how he's developed since Ace died.

Given the fact that Shanks lost an arm and was not bothered in the slightest and how he is a mediator in the world so to speak and how connected his family are to Imu there is straight up the possibility that Shanks was OK with being Imu’s eyes so to speak but convinced him he could be a bit more chill about things.

Was it ever established Shanks even had any contact with the WG before "needing to talk about a certain pirate" (and it may not even be him since Shamrock exists now. )

I know much about Shanks is shrouded in mystery for a reason, but to think that everything about him and his actions isn't explained for a reason is because he's some kind of villain is a real stretch, especially since the WG and everyone connected to them have shown the same approach of ruthless aggression to crush any threat to them, and if Shanks was part of that, there's no way he'd be cool with Luffy and his friends and allies as he is.

Even in Egghead Imu was all ‘killing you because you let JB go’ but he didn’t follow after him.

Imu didn't follow because for all we know Imu can't physically leave the castle, even beyond the context of "hiding that there's a shadow ruler of the world".

Even his showing up on Elbaf is ‘you guys are taking way too long, stuff is going to hell and I’m that mad I’m doing your job for you’. He isn’t there to get Luffy.

Of course, Imu isn't going to go after Luffy, it's way too early for Luffy to even know about Imu, let alone come face to face with Imu. The most that would happen would be Imu stepping in as part of the attempt to recruit Loki, which again would lead to the same argument between Luffy and the giants about Loki being bad news and needing to be chained.

Everything still looks like the God's Knights have things in the bag and it's all over but the GG acknowledgements at this point, but I guess Oda wanted to pull out the "villain steps in to do things because of the incompetence of minions" cliche.

There has to be a reason for that if Nikka terrifies Imu that much.

That was Gunko who was scared of Nika. Imu just recognizes Joy Boy's Haki, holds a resentment toward Joy Boy, but has no idea that Luffy IS Joy Boy, because for all the progress made and all the things we've learned, we're nowhere near wrapping things up, and Oda doesn't want the puzzles to be solved by the audience too quickly.

So I’m with you on thinking Imu is going to use Shanks to fight. I wouldn’t also wouldn’t be surprised if Luffy and Shanks are fighting normally only for Imu to cut in and regrow Shanks arm and give him a power boost as a result.

That's assuming Imu can even control Shanks, but I'm more thinking that we're going to see Shamrock come in and be the one to drop the lore bomb. Except Luffy probably won't care because 1. it'll probably be turned into some "it's not who I am, but what I do, that defines me" moment for Shanks, or 2. Luffy will hear this, but refuse to accept the info because he won't tolerate Shanks slander. Look at how quickly he was ready to decimate Loki before Loki said he was joking.

Considering how Oda is ramping things up, no way in hell the Shanks fight is going to be lighthearted fun.

I don't think anybody thought the fight between Luffy and Shanks would ever be lighthearted fun. From the first volume, it's been made to be the culmination of Luffy's journey and all he's done and learned. The only thing that could change things is if it's a showdown to claim The One Piece, or Shanks trying to explain the ramifications of the treasure and his Gear 5 representation and all the endgame and lore that Luffy is the key to, and needing to resort to fighting to get those things into Luffy's thick head.

 

[Tetragrammaton]

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Given the fact that Shanks lost an arm and was not bothered in the slightest and how he is a mediator in the world so to speak and how connected his family are to Imu there is straight up the possibility that Shanks was OK with being Imu’s eyes so to speak but convinced him he could be a bit more chill about things.

so i think the arm thing was just shanks being cool and willing to make a sacrifice most likely because of something he learned traveling with rogers crew. i also dont think shanks would willingly work with imu like others might. i think he is more like sanji in the sense that he is the nice guy of his family but is still just as strong. it could be possible that shanks was always cursed to be some form of puppet for imu but him being as far away as possible helped delay the process and him going back home if that was him and not shamrock could have drastically sped up the process without shanks knowing.

I doubt that. Ben Beckman alone seems like the kind of guy to recognize something is up. And even then, he attacked Greenbull, an admiral, so Shanks is an enemy of the WG.

thats why i dont think shanks is just directly evil or a traitor. so there is nothing for beckman to really detect. much like how nobody noticed joy boys haki stored inside emeth until it was activated i think imu has a similar ability. though time will tell for that.

 

[Stab You in the Back]

I doubt that. Ben Beckman alone seems like the kind of guy to recognize something is up. And even then, he attacked Greenbull, an admiral, so Shanks is an enemy of the WG.

Shanks didn't attack Greenbull, though. Shanks flashed his haki and Greenbull stood down.

Even in Egghead Imu was all ‘killing you because you let JB go’ but he didn’t follow after him. Even his showing up on Elbaf is ‘you guys are taking way too long, stuff is going to hell and I’m that mad I’m doing your job for you’. He isn’t there to get Luffy.

Its oddly coincidental that the God Knights show up mere days (weeks?) after Shanks was on Elbaph. I was on the "Shanks is okay" train before. But now, I gotta say, something seems off.

 

[6MillionCoofs]

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But if the plan was for Shanks to eat it, why would Shnks keep it in a chest where anybody could take it, like what Luffy did?

Because Shanks didn’t think anyone would be stupid enough to try. And he only turned away for a second

Was it ever established Shanks even had any contact with the WG before "needing to talk about a certain pirate" (and it may not even be him since Shamrock exists now. )

We know he went home at some point and said he would rather keep being a pirate.

but I'm more thinking that we're going to see Shamrock come in and be the one to drop the lore bomb.

Silvers said Shanks would have to explain Shanks. It seems set up for Luffy to learn stuff, not believe it, get told again that Shanks will confirm it, only to have Shanks confirm everything.

I know much about Shanks is shrouded in mystery for a reason, but to think that everything about him and his actions isn't explained for a reason is because he's some kind of villain is a real stretch

It’s not though because him being connected to the badguys, as we now know, was indeed seemingly the reason we knew next to nothing.

That was Gunko who was scared of Nika

Considering Gunko just got flooded with memories and saved Brook it might not have been Gunko. It’s funnier if it wasn’t as well because that means Imu rocks out to Brook in his downtime