One Piece - I'm Gonna Be the Pirate King!

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When you put it like that, I think back to Egghead where a lot of time was dedicated to Luffy going crazy over the futuristic things Vegapunk created, and then we get Lucci and company arriving, leading Luffy to go Gear 5 and Vegapunk to tell the other SHs about Nika.
In terms of action we got the run back with Lucci but Egghead in terms of story and lore was eventful since we finally get a full physical appearance of the legendary Vegapunk. I would add and argue that a lot of why the return to Elbaf feels so quiet is because of all the lore atom bombs that were dropped during Egghead and as i mentioned we are still in a bit of a cool off period before things pick back up.
 
honestly lol
I say it is cool but god are they struggling with just Gunko who seems like she should be easy work for just them
part of me wonders if this is going to turn out similar to sabaody with the gods knights playing the role of kuma and inspiring both the straw hats and the giants to get stronger. /ISPOILER]
 
Considering the final war is speculated to be a bigger version of Marineford, it’d make a lot of sense.
part of me wonders if this is going to turn out similar to sabaody with the gods knights playing the role of kuma and inspiring both the straw hats and the giants to get stronger.
I am expecting the final war to be a literal world war since there's so many forces on all effected sides around the world of One Piece it's gonna be a conflict that will effect damn near everyone.
 
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I am expecting the final war to be a literal world war since there's so many forces on all effected sides around the world of One Piece it's gonna be a conflict that will effect damn near everyone.
That is a given, once one power moves all the rest intrinsically have to.
 
I am expecting the final war to be a literal world war since there's so many forces on all effected sides around the world of One Piece it's gonna be a conflict that will effect damn near everyone.
That is a given, once one power moves all the rest intrinsically have to.
The only question I really think is worth asking is whether or not the whole war is going to be settled when The One Piece is found.
 
The only question I really think is worth asking is whether or not the whole war is going to be settled when The One Piece is found.
The way i see it is compared to how the fact that Whitebeard confirmed to the whole world that it does exist and helped kick the new age of piracy even further into overdrive. I think it might all hinge on what exactly it is and why the WG fears whoever gets it becoming the new King of the Pirates.
 
The only question I really think is worth asking is whether or not the whole war is going to be settled when The One Piece is found.
It kind of doesn't matter, all 4(5 if shanks counts as its own) will probably put enough forces into it that whoever comes out on top of Paramount War 2 : Laugh tale boogaloo will probably be in position to rule the world anyways.

It is probably something that fucks Imu over personally...like a giant hammer that can undo the Ope Ope fruit immortality.
 
It kind of doesn't matter, all 4(5 if shanks counts as its own) will probably put enough forces into it that whoever comes out on top of Paramount War 2 : Laugh tale boogaloo will probably be in position to rule the world anyways.
I think it does matter. Considering how Whitebeard says that once the treasure is found, the world will be turned upside down (I assume metaphorically), then you have to wonder how whoever finds the treasure will do that.

It is probably something that fucks Imu over personally...like a giant hammer that can undo the Ope Ope fruit immortality.
I have my ideas about what it is, but the issue with them is that a lot of the bigger meta revolves around prophecy and "the right time", and seeing how it's being crafted, that Luffy is at the center of it, the prophecy has to be fulfilled in a way where Luffy can do it in blissful ignorance, especially since his untold dream is the same one Roger had, and Roger completely understood the bigger ramifications of what he found.

And if it is something that fucks with Imu, then it's something that counters Imu's powers.
 
The only question I really think is worth asking is whether or not the whole war is going to be settled when The One Piece is found.
i think the war wont start till after the one piece is found. imu will end up getting exposed and it will be the thing that throws the world into chaos with everyone either siding with luffy/nika/joyboy or with imu.
 
bigger meta revolves around prophecy and "the right time", and seeing how it's being crafted, that Luffy is at the center of it, the prophecy has to be fulfilled in a way where Luffy can do it in blissful ignorance,
I think all the Prophecy stuff is bullshit, it would go completely against what Luffy strives for.
It will all be set up and Luffy will very specifically tell Fate to kiss his rubbery ass and do what he wants.
 
I think all the Prophecy stuff is bullshit, it would go completely against what Luffy strives for.
It will all be set up and Luffy will very specifically tell Fate to kiss his rubbery ass and do what he wants.
I think it’ll be more in a way where Luffy is the reincarnation of Joy Boy and the Sun god while in Gear 5, and he doesn’t know or care. Just like how a good way to kickstart the final war would be Luffy fighting a bunch of people to rescue a kidnapped Vivi. And trying to find allies to do this and heading to face the enemy would be seen as “the promised time” coming to pass .
 
I think it’ll be more in a way where Luffy is the reincarnation of Joy Boy and the Sun god while in Gear 5, and he doesn’t know or care. Just like how a good way to kickstart the final war would be Luffy fighting a bunch of people to rescue a kidnapped Vivi. And trying to find allies to do this and heading to face the enemy would be seen as “the promised time” coming to pass .
yeah one of the main themes of One Piece is Inherited Will which Luffy sort of skews but only slightly follows. Since he spreads freedom and hope to people and knows how to get people to follow their own path which makes him so dangerous. He doesn't care about a prophetic destiny he just wants the freedom to eat, sleep and travel the world unmitigated.
 
I think it’ll be more in a way where Luffy is the reincarnation of Joy Boy and the Sun god while in Gear 5, and he doesn’t know or care. Just like how a good way to kickstart the final war would be Luffy fighting a bunch of people to rescue a kidnapped Vivi. And trying to find allies to do this and heading to face the enemy would be seen as “the promised time” coming to pass .
Luffy can do all of that..while telling the promised time to fuck off. We are getting hints that "the promised one" is going to end the world in some fashion, which isn't what Luffy wants. Luffy seems to generally like the world he lives in and things like the World Government are problems he wouldn't "End the world" to solve because his way of doing things is to beat the holy fuck out of the person who is causing the issues.
 
not to mention the high probability of shanks showing up. either god's knights are going to turn out to be crazy (im expecting this for shamrock) or theyre gonna have to rely on dirty tricks to get the upper hand
I really doubt Shanks shows up. And if Shamrock comes around, Luffy won’t be there because that’d probably mean we get some real time dedicated to Shanks’ backstory, and I really think that’s the kind of thing Oda wants to wait to reveal. If we do get some kind of Shanks backstory, it’ll be:
1. Fighting his brother Shamrock, so we learn why he ended up in a treasure chest as a baby.
2, and the one I think is more likely. When Luffy comes across Shanks again and returns the straw hat. (I’ve also heard folks say that Luffy returns the hat to Shanks after Shanks is dead because reasons, but I doubt that because Oda has built toward that moment from the first arc.

yeah one of the main themes of One Piece is Inherited Will which Luffy sort of skews but only slightly follows. Since he spreads freedom and hope to people and knows how to get people to follow their own path which makes him so dangerous. He doesn't care about a prophetic destiny he just wants the freedom to eat, sleep and travel the world unmitigated.
And I believe the real dream Luffy has is for everyone to have the same freedom the Pirate King does. And that’s how I’d say One Piece ends: Luffy going to pursue that dream with the treasure he found.
 
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And I believe the real dream Luffy has is for everyone to have the same freedom the Pirate King does. And that’s how I’d say One Piece ends: Luffy going to pursue that dream with the treasure he found.
and what people do with that freedom is up to them. This is why whenever i see people talk about how Luffy is some sort of hero i get a little confused. The Straw Hats are still pirates but ultimately Luffy's goal and why he even fights is because he hates people that try and suppress the dreams of others. Doesn't matter if you're the WG, Other Pirates or some unrelated group to the major factions to the world.
 
Luffy can do all of that..while telling the promised time to fuck off. We are getting hints that "the promised one" is going to end the world in some fashion, which isn't what Luffy wants. Luffy seems to generally like the world he lives in and things like the World Government are problems he wouldn't "End the world" to solve because his way of doing things is to beat the holy fuck out of the person who is causing the issues.
Honestly, I’ve always felt the “end the world” wasn’t literal, and more of a thing like “the way the world operates will change completely”. I think it’s probably going to be like Wano where Momo becomes shogun after Kaido is defeated.

So Luffy would take down the likes of Imu, Blackbeard, Akainu, the SHs would defeat the other admirals, and all the replacements of the admirals, the Gorosei, and Imu would do something like end the privileges of The Celestial Dragons, and result in the WG having a new military and government structure in place. And then we get some wise sage/Whitebeard type talk about how the world is ending because of regime change and I’m assuming property damage, and Pirate King Luffy summarily wrecking the shit of Imu, with all his friends taking out pretty much the entirety of the villain roster, bringing about The Dawn Of The World while Luffy parties like he does at the end of every arc.
 
Honestly, I’ve always felt the “end the world” wasn’t literal, and more of a thing like “the way the world operates will change completely”. I think it’s probably going to be like Wano where Momo becomes shogun after Kaido is defeated.

So Luffy would take down the likes of Imu, Blackbeard, Akainu, the SHs would defeat the other admirals, and all the replacements of the admirals, the Gorosei, and Imu would do something like end the privileges of The Celestial Dragons, and result in the WG having a new military and government structure in place. And then we get some wise sage/Whitebeard type talk about how the world is ending because of regime change and I’m assuming property damage, and Pirate King Luffy summarily wrecking the shit of Imu, with all his friends taking out pretty much the entirety of the villain roster, bringing about The Dawn Of The World while Luffy parties like he does at the end of every arc.
We are pretty much in agreement with the ending.

Well given that Elbaf is pretty Norse and we have had "3 Worlds" before it is very likely that it will be the End of the World as the characters know it and there will be a new Beginning, Much like the Ragnarok of Norse lore.

However I think Luffy might say "FUCK THAT SHIT" too.

We have 3 worlds, each with different Ruling gods, I am currently thinking that the "end" of each world is the Old Gods being overthrown and New Tyrants taking their place..a perpetual cycle of misery. Imu is trying to break this cycle by preventing anyone from knowing about it and that the Current World Government is the only set of rulers that have ever ruled. That the current Order is the Natural order.
 
We are pretty much in agreement with the ending.

Well given that Elbaf is pretty Norse and we have had "3 Worlds" before it is very likely that it will be the End of the World as the characters know it and there will be a new Beginning, Much like the Ragnarok of Norse lore.

However I think Luffy might say "FUCK THAT SHIT" too.

We have 3 worlds, each with different Ruling gods, I am currently thinking that the "end" of each world is the Old Gods being overthrown and New Tyrants taking their place..a perpetual cycle of misery. Imu is trying to break this cycle by preventing anyone from knowing about it and that the Current World Government is the only set of rulers that have ever ruled. That the current Order is the Natural order.
I can see how that could happen by reading a summary of the actual Ragnarok. But I doubt Oda will do a straight 1:1 of the entire event.

In Norse mythology, Ragnarök is a foretold series of impending events, including a great battle in which numerous great Norse mythological figures will perish (including the gods Odin, Thor, Týr, Freyr, Heimdall, and Loki. it will entail a catastrophic series of natural disasters, including the burning of the world, and culminate in the submersion of the world underwater. After these events, the world will rise again, cleansed and fertile, the surviving and returning gods will meet, and the world will be repopulated by two human survivors, Líf and Lífþrasir.

At most, we'll probably see regime change, and The One Piece somehow being used to either reverse damage or build on the ashes of everything burnt to a crisp.
 
We have 3 worlds, each with different Ruling gods, I am currently thinking that the "end" of each world is the Old Gods being overthrown and New Tyrants taking their place..a perpetual cycle of misery. Imu is trying to break this cycle by preventing anyone from knowing about it and that the Current World Government is the only set of rulers that have ever ruled. That the current Order is the Natural order.
i think every time the world ends the sea levels rise and bury the past. that in turn causes many old rulers to lose their power only to be replaced with new ones. imu knows whats coming and does what he can to make sure he will always survive. i dont think imu wants to stop it i think he just wants to make sure he is the only ruler but to do this he needs to get rid of any form of freedom be it joy boy or nika or anyone with the will of d.
 
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