🤝 Community Omegaverse, Yaoi, and MPreg Fandom Discussion Thread - God help us all
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@monk black pill rethoric aside, I agree with you on most points. Most of women's abuse does not get caught as men's does because it's hidden under "child care" activities and most of their abuse is inflicted on children (whom they have free, unquestioned access to) and other women, and in the case of the workplace in subordinates, so no one gives a shit.
I'll go as far as say that a lot of this feminist raging about "but men can get away with xyz and women can't!!" is more about jealousy that they can't get away with the same shit and not moral outrage. Explains how lesbians consistently beat the shit out of each other in relationships.
Now don't get me wrong. I am all for calling out the patriarchy and supporting radical feminism. But eventually you get to a point where you realize that there has to be something more to "but men oppress us!" when we are 50% of the population and not a minority. Start calling out those bitches and their retarded fetishes more instead of making excuses.
> inb4 SoUrCe?????
Go fuck yourself.
This kind of slapfights has put me off radical feminism. It's always the same bullshit over and over and over again with zero interest in actually improving women's lives in any way. Let them stew in their misery.
I'll go as far as say that a lot of this feminist raging about "but men can get away with xyz and women can't!!" is more about jealousy that they can't get away with the same shit and not moral outrage. Explains how lesbians consistently beat the shit out of each other in relationships.
Now don't get me wrong. I am all for calling out the patriarchy and supporting radical feminism. But eventually you get to a point where you realize that there has to be something more to "but men oppress us!" when we are 50% of the population and not a minority. Start calling out those bitches and their retarded fetishes more instead of making excuses.
> inb4 SoUrCe?????
Go fuck yourself.
This kind of slapfights has put me off radical feminism. It's always the same bullshit over and over and over again with zero interest in actually improving women's lives in any way. Let them stew in their misery.
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The point is not that porn needs to be 100% vanilla missionary holding hands sex to not be rape. When you pay someone to perform a sex act, that person is not freely consenting. A money incentive is coercion. Words on a page can be destructive but are not nearly on the same level as porn.
Femdom is for men. That's why pegging doesn't actually give any pleasure to the women and only stimulates the man. That's why the women wear sexy latex suits that hug their asses and tits. That's why men pay for it.
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That's not entirely true...
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All those tags prove is literally sexual content of any kind is in the top 5 regardless of if it involves straights or gays or whatever. Women are horny and apparently prefer to express it in writing, the problem is Sturgeon's Law in that so few people even know how to write sex well, even the vile stuff.
Women having shit-taste in smut is honestly a problem tbh.
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Can any "yoai head" explain if its a self insert into the dynamic thing or a watching two other people get it on cuck-chair style thing? I always assumed it was a self insert thing with how the relationship is usually written as a heterosexual dynamic but I could be wrong.
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So you may ask, what happens when a fujo leaves the internet long enough to somehow snag a man.
Look and behold
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I think that "watching two other people get it on cuck-chair style" is more of a self-insert dynamic than you realize. The cuck male fantasizes about an ideal fetishized woman who excites an ideal fetishized man. The cuck can't truly be a part of this because he's not an ideal fetishized being. He's a subjective watcher. He can't see the sexual ideal within himself. Only someone external to him can represent the ideal, and he can only experience it through them.
This is why a lot of cuck porn is interracial. Frantz Fanon lays out the objectification that happens.
It's not a 1:1 correspondence. But fujoshis do something similar. For a fujoshi, the faggot (any archetype, doesn't matter) is an incarnation of raw, uninhibited sexual instinct. In yaoi, the moralities, hierarchies, and prohibitions of reproduction and gender no longer apply. The sexual neuroticism, masculine hangups, and status games of straight men no longer apply. Sex and romantic emotion (two sides of the same coin, of course) can be pursued freely in the fantasy.
The fujoshi watches them do it, and she's the subjective watcher so she inherently can't access it herself, but she can nevertheless be a part of it by drawing a picture of e.g. GhostSoap Callofduty fucking in the shower and then posting it on x dot com
Fujoshiism is clearly objectification, though I don't think there's much wrong with that. I guess it's in poor taste, but that doesn't seem like the end of the world either.
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I guess I can see that but i mean cuck porn has a 3 way dynamic built into it whereas yaoi is usually two people, I mean its imaginary so the only thing stopping you from imagining yourself in any position is your own conept of the situation and your own consciousness/hangups.
Hell if you think you can really change gender in real life then id wager that imagining yourself as something youre not comes naturally, id argue thats why TIMs are disollusioned to straight porn and get into emasculation fetishes/transformation fetishes because they hate their malehood so they can't really fathom a woman finding them sexually desirable for their male traits.
Actually thinking of how female love intrests are treated when they get in the way of a ship I kind of think its a similar vein of sexual self loating creeping up.
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Being straight only means you are attracted to the opposite gender, it doesn't mean you actively want to pursue a relationship. Yaoi is the most popular in countries with horrible misogynistic men and terrible cultures like Japan, Korea and China for a reason.
Dear joined date 2024, I have been long enough on the internet to have seen horrific shit. I am here because I like laughing at deviants online, y'know, because we are in a site that was created to document a multitude of weird and strange people on the internet. That's like saying everyone who posted on the zoosadism thread is into zoosadism, or anyone who finds and post in the shocking deviantart art/loli/sjw thread is into it when they are looking at it with disgust. Gay men being disgusting isn't particularly a secret. Even normies know about drag and other disgusting gay male hobbies.
I am not reading all that shit; by you. But porn wouldn't exist without consumers, just like how male pornography for straight women doesn't exist because women aren't interested in seeing that shit. Thinking prostitutes are in any way shape or form in ''control'', when there are several studies about how most prostitutes and women into porn have a story of domestic violence, sexual abuse and addiction speaks about your lack of empathy towards victims, so it's worthless to waste my time talking to someone who believes ''she wanted it' men dindu nothing they are pressed by the evil porn women they have no free will to close the tab''. You should see a therapist to resolve your mommy issues, blaming all your problems on the person that wasted 9 months and 18 years on you speaks of otherworldly faggotry.
I know it's hard to believe, but women like romance. Women like seeing media where characters fall in love and similar scenarios. Women make up most of shipping because of this reason. Not everyone wants to self insert into romance, I know it's hard to believe because men don't like romance unless it's for wish fulfillment reasons where their literally mes get the waifu at the end. I used to read shoujo romance, and some aspects of it like the female characters always being such beta beckies with the personality of wet cardboard, made me quit. I can understand fujos who want to read romance involving two characters with personalities(or characters from media they like) as opposed to a self-insert that exists to appeal to the widest demographic.
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Bullshit. You're a disingenuous mutt who will mutilate basic facts into whatever foul, nonsensical mockery of reality you wish to present. No fucking shit Sherlock the top 10 tags on AO3 are all "normal" when like half of the tags (sex, relationship, smut, sexual content) are found in nearly all fanfiction ever created and ESPECIALLY to love stories.
This is like going to some tag based hentai/porn site, pointing out that some of the most popular tags are "2d" "manga" "hentai" and then going "wow you guyz hentai sure is popular on this fucking hentai website!!! haha kiwimoids btfo!!".
Since you have the mental capacities of a 80IQ nigger who dropped out of middle school, let me explain it to you in a way you may just understand. If you have 10 chiicken waangz, and you pull up to yo hood in da whip and you yell to your other niggers "AYYO WHOO WANT SUMM SCHIICKKIENN WANGZ NN SHIIIE". And then the entire hood of a hundred something niggers pull up next to you nn shiiee, and start asking for sum reperations for summ wangz. It wouldn't be very fair to say that only 10 niggers showed up and demanded you give them summ wangz n shiee. When in reality a whole bitchass whoole ass swarm of niggas done pulled the fuck ass up nn shieee.
Do you understand now how dumb your post is now?
Sidenote, I find this part pretty ironic since OP's main argument as to why all of the weird shit in yaoi is okay crutches on "BUT IT'S FINNE ITS JUST FICTIONAL!!!!". Why not apply the same logic here then too? Is loli/shotakikery now fine when woman do it because uhhhh men bad or something
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My point was to disprove the false claim that women goon to worse shit than men, as the request of the person I quoted, mind you. I don't know why you are so angry about it, take the stick up your arse. Women gooning to coffee AU yaoi fluff is objectively less vile than men gooning to hardcore anal teen rape latinas. It seems like men don't like the facts and logic when it paints them in a negative way. So much for men holding each other accountable.
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Why are some of you incapable of having nuanced opinions that don't devolve into an all-or-nothing mentality? You can be pro adult men kissing and against little girls being buttfucked, it's not mutually exclusive. One is legal and harms no man, and the other is illegal and harms women. Why are loliggers like this?
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I said the word ostensibly for a reason. Even then, thats a moot point. We aren't talking about pursuing a relationship, we're talking about smut written on the internet.
Then why not write a fantasy where the men aren't of such a disposition? Again, its a fetish thing, and thats ok. You dont need to (and in fact can't) justify how your fetish is actually pure and good and not at least somewhat degenerate.
Thats actually extremely easy to believe to the point of it being common sense. I'm not saying, nor do I believe that women are all, or are even by and large degenerate coomers, and I rather resent the implication. That said, yaoi is fetish material, and if you write/read a story with that as the focus, you are to a point writing/reading coomer material, even if it has romance elements.
Men like romance too actually, though romance fiction for men is much harder to come across, but I digress.
Not every man does. What most men do want, is a story where the male character is not simply wish fulfillment for the female reader. Female written romance stories are outright insulting and to a point, degrading to read as a male; that is how wish fulfillment is written for women. Nothing wrong with that, but a spade is a spade.
Then why couldn't they write a male and female character, and merely not self insert? After all, its not just two characters, its two male characters. Either its a fetish, or theyre incapable of writing or reading a heterosexual romance without self inserting.
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No shit retard. If pornhub tagged their videos the same way that AO3 does then the top 10 tags would be stuff like "woman" "video" "man" "sex" "porn". Catch all terms that nearly every single video is tagged with. Much like how the top 10 ao3 tags are probably found within like every single post on there. Do you also not understand how subsets and unions work?
Also I have no idea in which universe you live in where women jerk it to stuff like this. This is like claiming that men jerk off to nonsexual romance mangas/anime. No, you're once again being disingenuous and trying to poison the well. We are talking about PORN here.
Yes, this is something that happens on porn sites. Shocker. Now do me a favor and scroll through the AO3 BL section. A whole lot of "underage" tags popping up. Or is now all of that okay because "IT'S FICTIONAL!!11!"? We really dying on loli hill now?
Okay I get it men bad but what does that have to do with mpreg discussion?
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It exists and women have been mocked and called degenerate for it for decades, too. This year men found out about LADS adding a period tracker, and men were claiming anime boys reacting to your period and telling you nice things while you're shitting your guts out and in pain is degen and gooner. You yourself claim romance for women is degrading to read as male and insulting, while on the same breath complaining about why women don't read straight romance instead of yaoi. Women who express their heterosexuality in ways that dont center the pleasure of men often get mocked. While women who wear lingerie, shave, get chocked and other gross shit for men are what men look for in a partner.
Because they are not for you. Not everything has to be about men and what men like. Just like how you admitted, men don't like writing stories where men are wish fulfillment for the female reader. Women don't like to write stories where women are wish fulfillment for the male reader. Also, may I ask why you think it's degrading? are the men too pretty for you or something? I find the idea of men finding picrel degrading hilarious, thanks for the laugh.
Because they are limited by the medium and editors. Shoujo romance is a product, and as a product is has to be appealing to a wider demographic. Having a meek, boring protagonist is safer than having a protagonist that's too edgy and can filter self-inserters. With yaoi you don't have to worry about that, since it's aimed at adults.
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Honestly i am speechless, the fact you cannot comprehend something as simple as how trope tags work on fanfiction sites as opposed to rape sites made me realize you are borderline retarded. The fact you think a trope like Alternate Universe is any way and shape or form equal to something as general as ''woman'' tells me all I need to know. But then again, the concept of comparing written fanfiction to rape on tape where women are trafficked and abused is just plain wrong.
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Maybe not degen per sey, but thats extremely parsocial to have an AI or whatever rigged to say nice things to you for emotional stability (and before you start, yes men who do the same are also pathetic)
Women write the vast (99%) majority of that, for other women. You'd think it would match their tastes. Also as an elaboration, when I said "as a male" I meant in terms of the male lead, who is often written not as a man, but as a paper thin wish fulfillment item for the female lead that does not act like a man, or even a real person, unlike the female lead who is written as a real woman and person. Again nothing wrong with that, but lets call a spade a spade
Same goes for men as well. For example, men who like feet are made fun of ad nasueum. That's as it should be, if you are a weirdo and like weird things, you are going to get made fun for it, and usually thats for the best.
See my previous statement. Nothing wrong with that, but lets call a spade a spade.
Yes, but most romance out there is not written that way. I can confidently say that 90% of anything found on AO3 is written as wish fulfillment for the female reader. I'll once again refer to my above statement, nothing wrong with that, but lets call a spade a spade.
I mean AO3 stories. I think this may have been lost, but much of what I say is in reference to AO3. Anything outside of that context I'm not really referring to aside from obvious generalizations.
The men written there are typically, highly emotional, have no agency outside of the female leads desires, have only traits the female lead wants, are all super buff despite spending no time in the gym, are captivated by the female lead despite her not being particularly special, will tolerate the female lead being an absolute jerk to them, tolerate the female lead having interest in other men, will have no real competencies outside of those that serve the female lead, and so on and so forth.
I'm sure you find romance anime/manga insulting for similar/inverse reasons.
I refer back to my statement above, in terms of works I am specifically discussing AO3. Outside of that I cannot comment outside of A Priori generalizations.
I'm going to stop here as this is getting way off-topic and I dont want to fill the thread.
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Not gonna keep responding because i also dont want to keep wasting time on this but I am sorry you are genuinely a mega super faggot if you feel this is degrading when the genderbent of this is what REAL MEN want in their partners and what they expect of a relationship with a woman, but also adding ''does all the cooking, cleaning and child caring'' .
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Excuse me but I think y'all ladies forgot to post this article from the BBC of Chinese police arresting yaoi artists and stripsearching them in broad daylight (archive).
Before you jump to any conclusions about the cops hating women, this is Lanzhou, and read the context spoiler below (Hint: This is the same place that beat gays, murder men born from wedlock, and lock up troons in an asylum).
Truly I thought it would be Kashgar or Urumuqi but they're too international it seems and the Uigurs get the short end of the stick due to ETIM.
Key terms:
MPS = Ministry of Public Security, or law enforcement without firearms.
Not that they're not fucking pantyhose/undergarment commericals which go uncensored all the time lmao.
Lanzhou MPS is also what the fag fuentes folks in the west would call "based and redpilled". Lanzhou (and most of northwestern China) are known for basically having the most "fuck around and find out" attitude of Han dominated major cities outside of Beijing. Comparable to the American south/intermountain west. This is because there's a plurality of Han and Hui (Muslim Han) and during the last civil war it basically devolved into genocide.
MPS = Ministry of Public Security, or law enforcement without firearms.
The second great "morality" crackdown:
In around 2018-2020ish, the central gov started going hard on a morality crackdown (again), continued even today. "Effeminate" men and "masculine" women in media were straight up banned from media. This also includes masculine gay men from Gachimuchi, or lesbian feminine women. Nowdays if you have a woman wearing traditional court dress (or a bikini) you have to bar censor the breasts or get fucking yeeted by the internet censors because muh immodesty... No scotsmen in kilts allowed either lmao.
Not that they're not fucking pantyhose/undergarment commericals which go uncensored all the time lmao.
About Lanzhou:
Lanzhou MPS is also what the fag fuentes folks in the west would call "based and redpilled". Lanzhou (and most of northwestern China) are known for basically having the most "fuck around and find out" attitude of Han dominated major cities outside of Beijing. Comparable to the American south/intermountain west. This is because there's a plurality of Han and Hui (Muslim Han) and during the last civil war it basically devolved into genocide.
- They once told the family of a MTF who wanted the dickchop surgery (denied by the local gov) in public tv statement that "Instead of lodging a complaint (against us), you should send your son to an asylum because he is insane". Shanghai would just give them the dickchop surgery.
- During the late 80s/early 90s crackdown, they used to return death sentences for having orgies/gangbangs and adultery if you got caught/accused (amongst some other places).
- I knew of an instance about armed police patrolling fucking crop fields at night, the Hui were stealing crops from people, so the solution was to just summary execute the thieves.
- There was another instance where the muzzies decided to expand a mosque without a permit, and protested when the goverment said to tear the illegal add-on part down. Gov response was to call in the local military garison, force everyone out at gunpoint, and then bulldoze the mosque in front of everyone on local television.
- There was also some dude who was putting gyspum powder/diamteous earth in flour to cut it for profit and they straight up executed him (? I don't know if this one is true but it would fit the bill)
- Cops used to beat you even if you confessed (most places, you would get beat if you didn't confess lmao).
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