Official KiwiFarms College / Academia Hate Thread - discuss everything from pozzed syllabi, batshit insane professors, money wasting, diploma mills, elitism, and pseudointellectuals abound!

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For most here, attending college/uni/higher ed is a necessary evil, especially for those are who are more book smart than street smart.
Academia as a concept has been around forever, but for the past say...half century or so their reputation, especially here in the states, has been declining. Skyrocketing prices of admissions and fees, offerings/promotions of a multitude of "Under Water Basket Weaving Degrees", professors who somehow hold a job, as well as the not-so-subtle implementation of things like DEI or just blatant communist propaganda in the [current year]. Also, if you're an average white middle-class "house poor" American, you're screwed in terms of receiving some precious government gibs so that you and your folks won't be paying that bachelor's off for the next 20 years.

Academia is also very elitist, with a sense of right and wrongthink that you'll often see espoused in flowery academic journals (peer reviewed btw). You'll be lectured about muh heckin media literacy about being on the right side of historyor the marxist connotations of why the curtains are gay and black and the how A Streetcar Named Desire is somehow some uplifting feminist tale. Sometimes a single step into a college campus feels like logging into reddit.com . Despite Academia disguising itself as a "free speech haven", many students pretend to have different opinions to get decent grades or one single kvetch from the ADL will get some idealistic kids kicked out and blacklisted.

I'm too lazy to keep going so discuss I guess
 
dont you love it when you have to sit in a room and listen to some faggot with some expensive piece of paper talk about how great these nigger cultures are?
or how about listening to your prof. insist that the enriching cultures of random niggers and jeets in the middle of whatever-the-fuck are just as valid as imperialist white America and Europe?
or maybe even how we should Tolerate mentally ill troons because the true and honest two-spirits from chesasduwakasenistaniumnigger exist?

I fucking hate Gen. ed. requirements its unreal.
 
I know this is not a particularly original take but I fucking despise group projects. I especially despise them knowing most professors have went to college first, so they KNOW what it's like. "You need to get used to working with others before you enter the workforce!!!1" This sentiment holds weight in the most fucked up way, because yeah you WILL be stuck picking up after slack-jawed retards who leave you wondering how they got to where they are in the first place. Forever. That's your reward in life for not being room temp IQ.
 
Regarding your opening point, yes, college can be a necessary evil, but only for a very select few degrees and diplomas. Credentials in robotics engineering and aerospace engineering are, from what I gather, the hottest ones at the moment, given the bright prospects of both industries. Other credentials that signify hands-on experience, like nursing and medical lab tech, are also sought after.

Pretty much every other credential can go to hell, because all other areas are hyper-competitive, due to a shortage of jobs and a disproportionate amount of applicants. Software """engineering""" is basically a dead field; the gargantuan amount of layoffs that have happened in the past 2 years indicated a reduced demand for these workers, and thus, an extreme narrowing of jobs, with remaining positions being filled by seniors only.

Pretty much all business-related slop degrees are useless as well, even for people who hold master's degrees, and the explanation for this is simple: the world does not need 10 million more business graduates. Anyone with a half a brain can understand management styles, basic economic concepts, and statistical figures like means, medians and ranges. Plus, AI does a lot of this anyway, enabling 1 business analyst to do the job of 5.

So, with all of this said, my advice is simply: do not go to college, UNLESS you have the chops to get through programs for in-demand fields, like robotics, aerospace, and hands-on medical programs. Alternatively, consider a skilled trade (but get ready for hard work, long hours, health risks, OSHA visits and irresponsible co-workers...)
 
I hate college kids. I hate how smug they are, their superiority complex, that they think they are intelligent because they go to college. I hate how they larp as poor, I didn't go to college because I was poor. You being tight on money because you're a le heckin poor college student surviving on ramen!! xD does not make you poor. They treat college as a fucking daycare, an extension of high school, and act like they are still teenagers. Put themselves into debt to play around, just to graduate with something they could've gotten at community college. Not to mention the political brainwashing.
This isn't all people who attend college, if thats not obvious. Yall who try, I admire you.
 
I hate professors so much and those that teach master's classes are even worse. This semester alone I had to drop two classes cause of stupid bullshit they pulled. One decided not to show up to the class at all, like ever, and didn't list their email so no one could send them an email asking them about it. The other professor hugged me out of nowhere and said some creepy ass shit that almost made me file a title IX complaint.

Then the students, don't get me started on them. Most of them are either only in college to party or they are the embodiment of Reddit. I got so fed up with this one fat bald guy who would defend trannies that I told him that if he didn't shut up that I was going to pull a Kramer at the Laugh factory on him.
 
I'm doing two years in community college before I get my CPA, and there is a "student success" course required for students who plan to transfer. Sometimes I like it (solution-focused! setting goals! getting organized! love it!!!), but the required weekly discussions range from "mildly invasive" to "extremely invasive unlicensed group therapy."

This week tilts towards the latter. The theme of the discussion is interdependence, so the discussion prompts include questions such as "What is one thing you could use assistance with right now?" and "explain how you are more independent, dependent, codependent, or interdependent". All 20 students in the class read and respond to one another's answers. I feel like I am going crazy trying to answer these in a way that's detailed enough to conform to the rubric, while not actually revealing things people don't have the right to know about me.

Next week's journal is to write some paragraphs that "explore how you have formed your personal identity, where your habits come from, and how diversity impacts communities and individuals." Fuck off! Stop prying!
 
As someone who graduated college recently, it's one of the worst experiences you can have in your life.
Unless you get very lucky, you'll be working with , smug stuck-up teachers that feel they know everything there is to know, and if you don't learn their way, they'll berate you and probably make you fail the class, and even worse, you have rich kids that think they're the best just because their dads can pay for their tuition and more.

Is it a necessary evil? It depends, in my opinion. If you want to have a white-collar job, you might need to go through college or community college, if you don't want to spend 4 years getting a useless Bachelor's degree, since they aren't as useful as they were before. There's a lot of jobs where you don't need a degree, and pay a decent salary, but then again, the current job market is horrendous at best, so you have to get lucky to land a job like that.
 
God I needed a thread like this for so long, time to sperg
I'll be a rising senior in the fall and am starting to think about masters programs or maybe phds, and I really don't have any optimism. I'm doing a semi-bs degree (geography) so I feel as useful as I feel useless, but what makes me nihilistic about grad school is similar to what was said in the OP - funding is basically nonexistant unless you really luck out. I doubt I'm Marshall scholarship material anyways, so my best bet will probably be to spam applications to public schools. At least I hope there'll be less international student competition come 2026 :optimistic:
On the other hand, I did basically pay nothing for undergrad (will have probs 10-15k in loans) which to me justifies having a bs undergrad degree, but I still wonder if I'dve had a better ROI if I went through with transferring to something like Economics which would've been more useful out of the gate even if it isn't my "passion":lossmanjack:
Most of them are either only in college to party
There's a stereotype of Chinese intl. students coming to my college for bs masters degrees to basically just do this. Effectively rich Chinese people just see masters in the humanities as a longer term vacation
 
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Coming to university from my white trash suburb has been a weird ride. Only about half of my professors speak English at a high school level. Most of the people I meet are trust fund kids in undergrad purgatory. I can't go anywhere without being approached by the Marxist society to sign petitions for Saving the Trans Palestinian Whales or somesuch because I guess I look like that kind of person.

I took a sociology of science unit last semester (sue me, I have to take elective units & it's tangentially related to my degree) -- it covered a whole heap of philosophy from the beginning of the 20th century, but the main takeaway was "our interpretation of data is inherently coloured by personal and social factors, and even our best theories are succeeded by new and incompatible theories, so we cannot presume that any one model of reality is more valid than another". These people actually believe that truth does not exist outside of social consensus, preferably among people with diverse lived experiences. This was a massive lightbulb moment for me. It explains so much.

What's really weird is that everyone else in the class seemed fine with this conclusion, as if it doesn't totally undermine our faith in our own perception of reality. I got the stink eye from multiple people for arguing against intersectionality and the abolition of biological race. It's not as if I was trying to be an epic based rightoid or anything; I just don't understand how any of this holds up to scrutiny.

The social life is alright here but I cannot wait to get my piece of paper and gtfo.

Oh yeah, and student dorms are $400/wk. Screw that.
 
I should have chosen Mechanical over Electronics. Now I've wasted years on shit I am half interested in.
 
Useful niggas go to trade school and learn a trade so that when the bombs drop, they'll have a practical skill that they can use.
 
dont you love it when you have to sit in a room and listen to some faggot with some expensive piece of paper talk about how great these nigger cultures are?
When I saw the electives that my local colleges were offering, I just gave up on higher education. Most of it was about Native American culture or some other shit.

It's all designed to wring more money out of people, imo. But people that I've talked to said that it's for "broadening my horizons."
 
I especially despise them knowing most professors have went to college first, so they KNOW what it's like. "You need to get used to working with others before you enter the workforce!!!1" This sentiment holds weight in the most fucked up way, because yeah you WILL be stuck picking up after slack-jawed retards who leave you wondering how they got to where they are in the first place. Forever. That's your reward in life for not being room temp IQ.
Most professors went to elite universities with less slackers and retards pulling down group projects. They actually didn't have the experience of every group project being ruined.
 
I guess it's a bit redundant, but if there's one thing I hate about my third-world university, it's people who live with their heads up their asses. Going to college doesn't automatically make you a person enlightened by secret, divine knowledge. However, it is enough for some people to understand one or two concepts from an article that talks about Marx to believe that they can change the world from the septic tank that I call a country.
 
When I did my undergraduate degree, in my second year my university made us do an Aborigine cultural sensitivity unit. As you can guess there it amounted to white person = racist and the abbo lecturer didn’t turn up to her own classes half the time. This was in the late 2000s so things are probably much worse now. When I went back to higher education for my masters degree every lecture/class begins with an acknowledgment of country which is a scourge here in Australia. One poor student lost marks on an assignment because it didn’t include an acknowledgement of the Abbo overlords.

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On the bright side, at least during my university days I didn’t have to put up with the trannies and their nonsense. Women’s spaces and sports actually had women in them.
 
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