🐱 Offensive online posts led to gun charges

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https://www.pennlive.com/news/2018/11/authorities-nazi-related-posts-led-to-gun-charges.html

A Columbia County man faces charges related to the illegal possession of a machine gun after attracting law enforcement attention by posting racist comments online, authorities said.

Officials at the U.S. Justice Department announced Wednesday that John J. Hasay, 21, of Benton has been criminally charged for possessing an illegal Glock 19 9-millimeter machine gun for nearly a year, ending on Aug. 23.

Authorities said Hasay was discovered by law enforcement officers after he posted in online forums, making comments "espousing racist, white-supremacist and Nazi ideologies.”

Hasay also threatened to commit a hate crime, authorities said.

According to the announcement, authorities also are seeking to make Hasay forfeit his firearms and related items, including:

  • The Glock 19 machine gun
  • A CAA Model G3, Micro Roni pistol carbine conversion bearing a scope
  • A IWI Model MP Uzi bearing a shortened barrel (a semiautomatic firearm that is capable of accepting a large capacity magazine)
  • A GSG Model 522 bearing a shortened barrel and a Black and Brown optic (a semiautomatic firearm that is capable of accepting a large capacity magazine)
  • A Charter Arms Model AR-7 Explorer bearing a shortened barrel (a semiautomatic firearm that is capable of accepting a large capacity magazine)
  • A Mossberg Model 500A bearing a shortened barrel
  • An I.O. Inc. Sporter bearing a suppressor (a semiautomatic firearm that is capable of accepting a large capacity magazine)
  • Two suppressors
Hasay has been incarcerated since his arrest on Aug. 23.

If he is found guilty on the charges, Hasay faces a maximum penalty of 10 years in prison, authorities said.
 
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forget that it's a handgun, even if it wasn't you can't get a 9mm pistol-caliber machine gun by definition
that's literally what the term 'submachine gun' was invented for
 
Vrakks said:
forget that it's a handgun, even if it wasn't you can't get a 9mm pistol-caliber machine gun by definition
that's literally what the term 'submachine gun' was invented for
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You really expect the media to identify firearms accurately?

We're lucky they didn't call it a "354. caliber fully-semi-automatic tactical assault sawn-off carbine with extended 9mm magazine clips."
 
User names must be unique said:
You really expect the media to identify firearms accurately?

We're lucky they didn't call it a "354. caliber fully-semi-automatic tactical assault sawn-off carbine with extended 9mm magazine clips."
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But they're the American media, surely they should at least be familiar with definitions
If nothing else there's google
 
Vrakks said:
But they're the American media, surely they should at least be familiar with definitions
If nothing else there's google
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Dang I forgot to work ghost gun into my spiel, people are comfortable in their ignorance. How that cop didn't bust up laughing is either impressive or deeply worrying.
 
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Vrakks said:
forget that it's a handgun, even if it wasn't you can't get a 9mm pistol-caliber machine gun by definition
that's literally what the term 'submachine gun' was invented for
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fuck all this time I was thinking submachine gun was an underwater vessel gun and it was a common typo! kind of like a submachine sandwich.
 
DuckSucker said:
fuck all this time I was thinking submachine gun was an underwater vessel gun and it was a common typo! kind of like a submachine sandwich.
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Hungry for justice? Try our new ham and 9mm, want swiss cheese with that? Just pull the trigger!
 
This speaks volumes as to how poorly written gun laws can be when they're written by people that are too mortified of firearms to be willing to learn even the most basic things about them. You can order the part that converts any glock pistol to fully automatic on Amazon, Wish, Alibaba, etc. for about $10, no questions asked. Now, installing it on a firearm is a pretty big crime, but making, selling, receiving, etc seems to not be illegal as long as you pretend its not for making the gun fully automatic.

https://www.wish.com/search/glock/product/5bceb62da1cfb41a535bc64f?&source=search
 
ForTheHoard said:
This speaks volumes as to how poorly written gun laws can be when they're written by people that are too mortified of firearms to be willing to learn even the most basic things about them. You can order the part that converts any glock pistol to fully automatic on Amazon, Wish, Alibaba, etc. for about $10, no questions asked. Now, installing it on a firearm is a pretty big crime, but making, selling, receiving, etc seems to not be illegal as long as you pretend its not for making the gun fully automatic.

https://www.wish.com/search/glock/product/5bceb62da1cfb41a535bc64f?&source=search
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note that i am a licensed dealer and manufacturer of machineguns, with more than a decade of personal experience working/servicing/owning them.

i have three of those from Aliexpress and one from a factory that used to make car body kits and now makes cheap accessories for export for sporting equipment (including air guns, pellet guns, and real guns). they are generally surface hardened alloy or poorly treated mild steel and in one case, completely shattered in a test pistol i had. one was non functional due to poor finish work (powder coat too thick, mold line from the casting wasn't smoothed down so the travel for the toggle that holds the disconnector downward would engage then lock in place, causing a runaway gun situation.

while they aren't quite the "honeypots" from yesteryear (remember the pre 84 DIAS?), they aren't particularly well-made and someone serious about committing a felony is better off making a Sten clone or something.

doing something like this and effectively advertising it is beyond dumb. it's similar to the guy with the "random drill bit" third hole that he posted to facebook or whatever.

https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2016/04/11/ignorance-and-nfa/

edit: the law as written states that any part or combination of parts that can readily convert, or manufacture, or make ready for conversion or manufacture of a machinegun (as defined) is a machinegun in and of itself. the parts are unregulated, generally, but possessing both the conversion parts and the firearm they could (in theory) be fit into is enough for the BATFE to make an arrest under the theory of constructive intent. this has been prosecuted successfully as well. don't do it.
 
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