US Obamacare Is A Disaster, Just As Expected - The right’s warnings about Obamacare proved prescient, yet Democrats keep doubling down on a failing system they refuse to admit they broke.

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Just over 15 years ago, when the Democrat-controlled House and the Democrat-controlled Senate were debating the healthcare proposals offered by the Democrat president, nearly everyone on the political right was unified in opposition. It may well have been the last time the right was united on anything, but it was indeed unified and resolute.

Congresswoman Michelle Bachmann (MN) warned that “This monstrosity of a bill will not only destroy the private healthcare market, it will lead to massive increases in premiums and rationed care.” Congressman (and eventual vice-presidential nominee and Speaker of the House) Paul Ryan (WI) complained that “This bill is a fiscal Frankenstein. It’s a government takeover that will explode costs and kill jobs.” Senator (and Republican Leader) Mitch McConnell (KY) insisted that Americans “want reforms that lower costs, not a trillion-dollar government experiment.”

Right-leaning commentators like George Will and Charles Krauthammer agreed, not only with each other but with Republicans in Congress as well. Krauthammer, in particular, argued that President Obama’s promise to “bend the cost curve” down was pure, unadulterated, and extensively documented fantasy. National Review, much maligned among Trump supporters these days, dedicated most of an issue to exposing and forecasting Obamacare’s fiscal absurdities and the likelihood that it would result in lower quality of care, increased taxes, and exploding insurance premiums. Even the Heritage Foundation—in the news lately for purportedly exacerbating rifts in the conservative coalition—likewise agreed with everyone in the movement, insisting that Obamacare was a disaster waiting to happen and would keep none of the promises that it made, all while destroying what was good and valuable in the private insurance market.

More than a decade later, when it was clear that the system was in trouble and that only greater government intervention and spending could save it, Heritage (in the form of Robert Moffit, Edmund Haislmaier, and Nina Owcharenko Schaefer) took something of a victory lap, detailing Obamacare’s manifest failures and arguing that it was long past time to scrap the whole experiment.

“The facts,” the Heritage analysts noted, “are in.”
  • The ACA dramatically increased health insurance premiums and cost-sharing in the individual market….
  • The ACA collapsed insurer competition in the nation’s individual markets….
  • The ACA failed to meet official enrollment targets in the individual markets….
  • The ACA is pricing middle-class Americans out of individual market coverage….
  • The ACA expanded government coverage while wrecking the private individual health insurance market….
  • The ACA compromised access to care for persons—including those with preexisting medical conditions—enrolled in the nation’s individual markets….
  • The ACA failed—and failed miserably—to attract young people into the exchange insurance pools….
  • The ACA Medicaid expansion prioritizes able-bodied adults, many of whom are working, over the elderly, the disabled, and poor women and children….
  • The ACA did not, as predicted, “bend the curve” of America’s healthcare spending….
  • The ACA’s vaunted delivery reforms did not yield the anticipated savings.
Everything Republicans warned would happen did happen. And the Democrats’ response was to offer a massive “temporary” increase in subsidies to help paper over the failures. Again, every sentient person in the country insisted that doing so would be a disaster, that the subsidies would only increase costs, and that they would not be temporary.

The Democrats didn’t listen, however. They didn’t listen in 2009 and 2010 when Congress initially debated and then passed Obamacare—without a single Republican vote in either house. They didn’t listen in 2020, when they insisted they needed expanded subsidies to address the financial hardships created by COVID-19. They didn’t listen in 2023, when they extended the COVID-era subsidies as part of the inaptly named Inflation Reduction Act, at a cost of $64 billion. And they’re still not listening now. Indeed, they just engineered the longest shutdown in American government history because they have no intention of ever listening or ever admitting that perhaps the right was absolutely spot-on in its predictions about Obamacare.

Worse still, in addition to sticking their fingers in their ears and ignoring the experiences of the last decade and a half, the Democrats are actually blaming the Republicans for all of the healthcare system’s problems, insisting that the GOP is somehow responsible for their delusions. As Senator Bernie Sanders, the ideological spirit animal of today’s Democrats, put it, “This government shutdown is all about whether Republicans will get away with raising healthcare premiums by 75% for 20 million Americans and throwing 15 million people off their healthcare.”

Over the years, countless conservative commentators have played upon the famous line in the movie “Love Story,” arguing that “being a liberal means never having to say you’re sorry.” More accurately, they would note that being a liberal/leftist/statist means never having to say you were wrong or admit that your utopian dreams were, in reality, nightmares. This is a feature, not a bug, of leftism. Just as today’s young leftists insist that communism can work, despite its many high-profile and bloody failures, because “real communism has never been tried,” so the Democrats insist that Obamacare can work if it’s tweaked and adjusted in just the right ways.

Although Jean-Jacques Rousseau shares the title “father of the modern left” with many of his Enlightenment contemporaries, he clearly did more than most to undermine and destroy the existing social and political orders and to discombobulate the West. As Nietzsche argued, Rousseau was “the greatest revolutionizing force of the modern era.”

Rousseau did not believe in the concept of Original Sin and insisted that the very idea was invented to keep man oppressed, silenced, and miserable under the thumb of society’s imperfect institutions. “Everything is good as it comes from the hands of the creator,” he wrote in the opening pages of Emile, but “everything degenerates in the hands of man.”

As a result, Rousseau and his followers saw society’s institutions as the foremost threat to man’s freedom and happiness. If man is good by nature, yet he behaves poorly under the direction and guidance of specific institutions, then the institutions, by definition, must be corrupt. They are clearly the cause of the aberrant behavior and must, therefore, be reformed—as thoroughly and as frequently as necessary to enable man to live as he should in a collective society. As the historian Paul Johnson noted in his Intellectuals, to Rousseau, society or “culture” was an “evolving, artificial construct….” But it nevertheless “dictated man’s behavior,” meaning that “you could improve, indeed totally transform, his behavior by changing the culture and the competitive forces, which produced it…” In short, according to Rousseau, one can change the world by successfully changing its institutions—over and over and over again, until you get it right, without ever having to say you’re sorry for getting it wrong.

Normal people, of course, think that the institutions created by Obamacare are destructive, costly, and ultimately ineffective. And we know they believe this because so many of them said so before the system was ever put in place. The Democrats disagree, and they will not be dissuaded from their course by any appeals to theory or experience. They want to keep the institutions and keep reforming them until they inevitably find the right formula.

They’ll get it right next time. Trust them. Oh, and in the meantime, pony up.
 
Even the Heritage Foundation—in the news lately for purportedly exacerbating rifts in the conservative coalition—likewise agreed with everyone in the movement, insisting that Obamacare was a disaster waiting to happen and would keep none of the promises that it made, all while destroying what was good and valuable in the private insurance market.
The Heritage Foundation had previously formulated many of the provisions of Obamacare, including the individual mandate and insurance marketplace. Obamacare would have passed as a Republican healthcare proposal in the 90s, heck, even Nixon had more radical proposals.
 
And what was that, exactly? Health insurance has been a scam for as long as I've been alive, and I'm not young.

So in WWII we had price controls in fact we ve had price contols off and on from the 1940 to the 1970 Nixon was the last to really do this.

Since wages were set by these controls employers used offering of health insurance as a work around.

The ACA was a heritage idea from 1990s, It doesnt work and the GOP were faggots who screamed night and day about obama nigger death panels rather than offer their own solution to health care costs
 
Obamacare isnt failing. Its doing exactly what it was designed to do.

Make healthcare expensive and reserved for the ruling class while killing off useless eaters
 
It was created to force the American tax payer to such debt from insurance that it would mandate the government step in and take over the 'private' insurance market. Its hard to find the quotes now but it is exactly what the creator of the bill said on TV on friendly news networks.

"This bill was written in a tortured way to make sure CBO did not score the mandate as taxes," he said. "Lack of transparency is a huge political advantage. And basically, call it the stupidity of the American voter or whatever, but basically that was really, really critical to getting the thing to pass."


They hate you and want you to rely on public welfare for medical care so they direct all outcomes.
 
The Heritage Foundation had previously formulated many of the provisions of Obamacare, including the individual mandate and insurance marketplace. Obamacare would have passed as a Republican healthcare proposal in the 90s, heck, even Nixon had more radical proposals.
republicans have always had a radical streak in them. it led to the death of a million Americans in the 1860s.
 
It was created to force the American tax payer to such debt from insurance that it would mandate the government step in and take over the 'private' insurance market. Its hard to find the quotes now but it is exactly what the creator of the bill said on TV on friendly news networks.




They hate you and want you to rely on public welfare for medical care so they direct all outcomes.
Yea I agree with you. This is the reason why when that CEO got killed a lot of people shouted for joy.
The Health Care industry is a Fucking Cancer. And though I can afford giving care for my wife. The out of pocket costs ARE MORE THAN WHAT THE AVERAGE AMERICAN MAKES.

YOU ARE ONLY A FUCKING NUMBER TO BE USED AND THEN DISCARDED. This is what happened to my wife. So yes I know first hand on the fucking shit you pay for and the fucking excuses you get for deductables and simple things that are not paid for.

I PAY 300 DOLLARS A MONTH JUST ON BANADGES FOR WOUND CARE... Just one example what you get when you have coverage.

Obama Care destroyed lives and made BIG PHARMA/INSURANCE FUCKING RICH.
 
The ACA was a heritage idea from 1990s, It doesnt work and the GOP were faggots who screamed night and day about obama nigger death panels rather than offer their own solution to health care costs
They did propose some, they just didn't have the emotional appeal of Obamacare.

  1. Allow insurance plans to be sold across state boundaries.
  2. Cap medical malpractice liability.
  3. Get rid of the AMA rationing system that doesn't let new hospitals open.
But #1 was unpopular with blue states like California that mandated aromatherapy and acupuncture coverage for every plan sold in the state. #2 was unpopular with lawyers, including the more evolved form of scummy lawyers (politicians). #3 is unpopular with doctors, or more accurately the administrators who run hospitals.

All of these would have lowered health care and insurance costs over the long run. But they were unpopular with the most rich and powerful constituents of the Democrats. With complicit corporate media, they could easily be spun as "removing protections for normal people". They also weren't likely to deliver an immediate, up-front reduction in costs in the short term; politicians rarely pass long term reforms if they don't have a Year 1 number they can brag about.

All of these were proposed in the same time frame as Obamacare, but the Democrats were the ones insisting we needed to pass a 2000+ page all-in-one bill that we wouldn't appreciate "until we pass it". The 2009 Democrats weren't policy geniuses, they were outrage- and popularity-driven hangers-on to Obama's coattails. Obama wanted a legacy, and he wanted an immediate economic boost he could claim credit for.

BUT MUH ROMNEYCARE is a retarded read on the situation, when the entire GOP opposed the idea, formed the Tea Party to fight it further, and forced Romney to backtrack before letting him run in 2012.
 
Obamacare isnt failing. Its doing exactly what it was designed to do.

Make healthcare expensive and reserved for the ruling class while killing off useless eaters
And to soften everyone up to beg for some sort of gov run healthcare program eventually. It was a rare instance where the Donkeys played a long game.

What they didn't know back then was that there would be idiotic Blue states deciding to give ACA and Medicaid coverage to illegals and trannies, making it even more expensive, retarded and contentious.
 
The ACA was a heritage idea from 1990s, It doesnt work and the GOP were faggots who screamed night and day about obama nigger death panels rather than offer their own solution to health care costs
As though we didn't then, and don't now, have death panels under insurance. Why is some unelected bureaucrat in DC or my state capitol saying "no, he doesn't need or get this lifesaving drug/therapy/surgery because he's too old to make it worthwhile" this monstrous thing, but it's somehow a virtuous feature of the Free Market Economy (tm) when some beancounter on Wall Street makes the same decision?

I'm not advocating government runs health care and I'm not saying it should be private or bust. I don't have the solution. I just know neither side of the argument is working and neither side can say that they don't already ration health care resources and make those same decisions about who lives and who dies. It just goes by different names is all.
 
My remark was more about how the gop suicided themselves by making everything about Obama rather than policey.
I agree completely, but other commentors are equally right that they didn't have their own plan and certainly didn't put one forward during the Bush years. We had the same discussion during the Clinton years and the GOP didn't take the point that Americans wanted a change in the status quo of healthcare and fix it. They just acted like it was solved when Clinton didn't get his way despite having the WH and both House and Senate between 2001 and 2005.

Basically the conversation was:
GOP: "...blahblahblah Death Panels!"
DNC: "How is that different than when insurance does it?
GOP: "Because Obama!"
American People: "What is the Republican plan then?"
GOP: "Not Obama!"
 
Of course it's a disaster, that's what they intended. Destroy everything with a timebomb they can defuse when a Democrat is president and set off when a Republican is president. Then they clean up and implement all their authoritarian dreams.
 
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