Opinion "Not all men"

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A lot of people, when they hear women — anyone, really, it doesn’t just happen to women, but that’s who I’m focusing on here — talking about their experiences with men who abused/raped them, will immediately respond with “not all men” in some form or another. As if women, talking about the very real abuse and torment they suffered from being abused, assaulted, or raped, do not already know that “not all men” do this sort of thing, and patronizingly just need to be told that it’s “not all men” who do it.

It’s like the ones who say it don’t understand that knowing that it’s “not all men” doesn’t help. It makes it worse. Much worse. Because a lot of the men who do this have learned to present a facade to the world of being “good people”, so women who have something like this happen to them will always, every day of their lives, wonder who will next reveal the truth under their facade.
But there are certain tells women have learned to detect — because, much more often than not, their lives and health depend on it — which help them recognize those for whom it might be a facade. And one of the biggest tells of all is someone saying one of the many variations on “not all men”. If you say this to women you are making it pointedly, abundantly clear to them that you are more concerned about the reputation of men than the well-being of women. Especially if you, yourself, are a man, because then you are effectively telling them that your reputation is more important to you than they are.

So many people get this so terribly, horribly wrong that they make matters far worse than they would otherwise be. Because the way to avoid doing this is surprisingly simple and straightforward. Show, don’t tell.

Don’t tell women that it’s “not all men”. Show them that you are not one of those men who it unquestionably is. The easiest and simplest way to do this is, when faced with something you might feel is critical of “all men”, don’t attempt to challenge it with a “not all men” line because you feel it is not fair to men who don’t do this. Men who don’t do this don’t need you to defend their reputations or anything like that, because they aren’t focused on their reputations and how people think of them to begin with. They just behave like decent human beings — they ask first, take no for an answer, and don’t attempt to cajole or pressure someone who doesn’t want to do something into doing it anyway.

And, if you do feel the impulse to say some variation on “not all men” when you hear women talking about their experiences with men, then you need to ruthlessly squash it and examine the part of yourself which felt the need to offer this non-”defense” to begin with. Because, unpleasant as it is to contemplate, while you yourself may never have committed abuse, violence, or sexual assault against a woman, you probably have done things which contribute to our culture which gives implicit permission to those who do. And if you want to do something about that culture, you have to start with taking a long, hard look at yourself and how you contribute to that culture. Because we all do, to some degree or another, and so it’s how we do that matters, not whether we do.

Do you ask first? Do you accept no for an answer? Do you refrain from putting pressure on someone who’s made their desire clear? Then you’re contributing positively to it. There are other ways to contribute positively too, but those are good starting points if you aren’t already doing them.
 
Don’t tell women that it’s “not all men”.

I agree with this a lot, and I think it can be unironically extended to other groups. Dont tell me it is "not all niggers" that stab people over minor infractions, or that it is "not all pakistanis" that gangrape little girls. No one can be expected to not see obvious patterns. Not feminists, nor racists.
 
"Perhaps instead of fighting for women to have better lives which is what feminism means, they should fight for what I (man that hates women) want: to force women to give birth because I fucking hate them with a passionate rage and stay mad at all times because I am a fucking faggot who fantasizes about niggers gangraping them"
Mad.

Also, looked up your cited study, which is 20 years old, based on 35 year old data, had a statistically insignificant sample group of less than a thousand over three years, sampled outside actual societal racial makeup (starting with 25.7% niggers who are under 7% of the population but rape at ~4x the white rate), had significant issues with longitudinal adherence, and was co-sponsored by a government department that appears to be getting raped by DOGE.

Well also assume that Latinos and Jews were ‘white’ for this study’s purposes too, it’s much more convenient.

Better luck with your next citation, maybe try citing science and not cuntoid propaganda.
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PS if you aren’t a stupid slut you won’t get knocked up by randoms and need to kill your children, just saying.
 
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PS if you aren’t a stupid slut you won’t get knocked up by randoms and need to kill your children, just saying
Why are randoms knocking up stupid sluts? Sounds negligent and dangerous, to me. He should probably invest in condoms.
 
By all means, femcel, get your ass on the first plane to Iran and fight for women's rights over there.
It's all lip service, I know it, you know it, everyone knows it.

None of these feminists fight for actual women's rights, like in the middle east, they'll rather complain about men on the west, in their privileged situation.
 
We dont live in a rape culture , hey chickenshit can i stab the man trying to rape me and walkway consenqunce free? last time I checked you get tossed in prison for carrying pepper spray, knifes or anything that can harm rapists in europe . And yet rapists walk away scott free with slap on the wrist , you can be openly dragged off the streets raped livestreame and your rapists get community service because ThEY aRE sO yOuNG , tHeY mADe a MisTAke. Even on the olympics there was a man who raped 13 year old and complained openly SHE LIED DINDU NUFFIN he got off with nothing in terms of real punishment and kept on living his life . Yes he was white assholes.
Kill em. Every day carry and kill em. The government should kill em. Lynch mobs should kill em.

Is that not taking it serious enough?

ETA: also, if you're gonna retard screed, can you address the whole thing if you are trying to refute it generally. There's a lot of meat there.
 
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Kill em. Every day carry and kill em. The government should kill em. Lynch mobs should kill em.

Is that not taking it serious enough?
You're engaging with someone dishonest. Men overwhelmingly and without fail want the death penalty, want firearms ownership, want self defence to be the norm; and want to violently kill all rapists and pedos. Who votes against such things, almost universally and as an entire block? Women. (Not ALL women though of course.). It's either blatantly dishonest, or an inability to track effect to cause.
 
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"Perhaps instead of fighting for women to have better lives which is what feminism means, they should fight for what I (man that hates women) want: to force women to give birth because I fucking hate them with a passionate rage and stay mad at all times because I am a fucking faggot who fantasizes about niggers gangraping them"
Just your usual pack of impotent braindead faggots engaging in le cringe gender wars again
Hey faggot, address any of my 3 points. Or better yet, prove rape culture is a thing. Like the definition on it's face is retarded.
 
You could reply with shutup cunt, but this is a troon and doesn't deserve that gender euphoria. Same tired argument as women fear men over bears. You don't debate, you just counter with agreeing with their logic against blacks for guilt by association. Or you call them a cunt, it doesn't really matter what they say anymore.
 
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"Perhaps instead of fighting for women to have better lives which is what feminism means, they should fight for what I (man that hates women) want: to force women to give birth because I fucking hate them with a passionate rage and stay mad at all times because I am a fucking faggot who fantasizes about niggers gangraping them"
Just your usual pack of impotent braindead faggots engaging in le cringe gender wars again
>be a feminist
>stand with a tranny
Hmmmm
 
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