UK Northern Ireland rioting over Easter - Could be Troubles ahead!

https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/uk-northern-ireland-56631894

A 47-year-old man has been charged following another night of violence in Northern Ireland.

He is due to appear at Belfast Magistrates Court on 26 April charged with riot and throwing a petrol bomb.

Thirty petrol bombs were thrown at police and three vehicles were hijacked and set alight during rioting in Newtownabbey, on the outskirts of Belfast, on Saturday night.

It happened at the Cloughfern roundabout in the O'Neill Road area.

Police said a crowd of 20 to 30 people gathered from about 19:30 BST to 22:30 BST.

The crowd consisted of young people and older men, some of whom were wearing masks, according to police.

The trouble was described as an "orchestrated attack on police" by Ch Supt Beck.

"No one, no matter what line of work they are in, deserves to be subjected to any kind of violence," he said.

It followed riots on Friday night in which 27 police officers were injured in Belfast and Londonderry.

There were five nights of violence in a row in the Tullyally area of Derry.

At the scene: A planned confrontation​

Mark Simpson, BBC News NI News Correspondent

When the police arrived to stop the violence, a member of the crowd shouted: "It's party time."

Clearly they were spoiling for a fight.

This was not a loyalist protest that went wrong. It looked like a planned confrontation.

By burning three vehicles at a busy roundabout, the crowd knew the police would arrive soon. They did.

What happened next was ugly, but the police operation was firm and controlled.

Within an hour, order had been restored.

Ch Supt Beck called on those involved in the attacks to "stop immediately".

"Their actions are causing nothing but harm and distress to the very communities they are representing," he said.

"No one wants to be dragged back to the dark days when rioting was a common occurrence on the streets of Northern Ireland."

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One man had his clothing set alight while he was confronting police. A petrol bomb was thrown from the crowd behind him and landed in front of him.

He fell to the ground and was caught up in the flames.

He ran to get help and members of the crowd helped to dampen the flames.

Police worked with "very closely" with local councillors in an effort to defuse the situation, according to Ch Supt Beck.

"We will continue to work with our partner agencies, community and elected representatives and the people of Newtownabbey to ensure we can all live in a peaceful society," he added.

Police appealed for anyone with information on the violence to contact them.
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Look at this tard, look at him and laugh.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/foster-urges-end-to-loyalist-violence-in-belfast-and-derry-1.4528349?mode=amp

 

[CWCissey]

Provisional Sinn Féin only care about troons, pocketing Stormont and Westminter expenses. No effort to defend their community, their voters.

Huh, so The Crying Game was more true to life than first thought...

I am wondering how Sinn Fein can get Westminster expenses anyway, considering they don't turn up.

 

[No. 7 cat]

Huh, so The Crying Game was more true to life than first thought...

I am wondering how Sinn Fein can get Westminster expenses anyway, considering they don't turn up.

Apparently they can. The rules permit it. They've done it for years. The rules have long allowed that, say in the 1870s for an atheist like Charles Dilke and other conscientious objectors, so people aren't deprived of representation, but SF are money hungry grifters.

 

[Ly Erg]

Hadn't seen any polling. Got the sources?

English Independence Poll

The poll carried out by YouGov on behalf of Yes Cymru showed Conservative supporters evenly split on the subject with 49% saying they support English independence to 51% who were opposed.

www.yes.cymru

I'm not including the Business for Scotland's Poll question on it since it's asking "England should be an independent country and Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland should be allowed to stand on their own two feet." since it's two questions in one statement which muddles things up.

 

[Sped Xing]

Irish independence was a dumb idea to begin with.

Ruling Ireland is a fool's errand.

 

[Morethanabitfoolish]

English Independence Poll

The poll carried out by YouGov on behalf of Yes Cymru showed Conservative supporters evenly split on the subject with 49% saying they support English independence to 51% who were opposed.

www.yes.cymru

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I'm not including the Business for Scotland's Poll question on it since it's asking "England should be an independent country and Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland should be allowed to stand on their own two feet." since it's two questions in one statement which muddles things up.

That's not a poll on whether or not Scotland should remain part of the UK. It's "If there was a referendum held tomorrow on England becoming an independent country and this was the question, how would you vote? Should England be an independent country?"

Don't get me wrong it's still a handy guideline but it's a very different topic.
Still handy, thanks for the link.

 

[ulsterscotsman]

Irish independence was a dumb idea to begin with.

Invading Ireland was a dumb Idea and we've been a constant pain in Englands arse since and for very good reason.

 

[Ly Erg]

That's not a poll on whether or not Scotland should remain part of the UK. It's "If there was a referendum held tomorrow on England becoming an independent country and this was the question, how would you vote? Should England be an independent country?"

Don't get me wrong it's still a handy guideline but it's a very different topic.
Still handy, thanks for the link.

I wouldn't completely disregard it, if you focus on the second question which gives more of an answer than the first one, that "against the idea of all the nations in UK being independent from each other" is a lot higher than for the idea. Where being 'against' is 53% (0 to 4), 'for' being 19% (6 to 10) and indifference/don't know being 27%.

Now is it a direct question on Scot Indy alone? No. But it's the best I can find for now.

 

[Morethanabitfoolish]

I wouldn't completely disregard it, if you focus on the second question which gives more of an answer than the first one, that "against the idea of all the nations in UK being independent from each other" is a lot higher than for the idea. Where being 'against' is 53% (0 to 4), 'for' being 19% (6 to 10) and indifference/don't know being 27%.

Now is it a direct question on Scot Indy alone? No. But it's the best I can find for now.

It's what I thought you might find because I assumed no-one will willing to light the fuse by asking the alternative. A survey saying "does the UK still want Scotland" or equivalent thereof is so offensive I expected there not to be any since it's just asking for trouble.

Thanks for sharing it.

 

[CWCissey]

Police aren't fucking about tonight. Dogs, water cannons and riot squads are out already.

There was also a story of some kids trying to form a blockade on the road, only for some local men to walk over, bitch them out and getting them to move the burning debris off the road only moments later.

 

[Morethanabitfoolish]

There was also a story of some kids trying to form a blockade on the road, only for some local men to walk over, bitch them out and getting them to move the burning debris off the road only moments later.

Heart warming. Only way it could have been better if it was elderly folk recognising family members and shaming them into tidying up.

 

[No. 7 cat]

Ruling Ireland is a fool's errand.

Ireland was an easy sail to England. It meant any exile could threaten England. The last Anglo-Saxon king was able to shelter in what the Anglo-Saxon chronicle called Dublinshire. Until the industrial revolution, Ireland was not that much smaller of a population. The nearest to independence Ireland could have had was for a dependent monarch from the same family as Henry II, which could have happened with John, who would have only plagued a small Norman nobility in Munster and Dublin. That said, except for a period where most of Ireland was overrun by the Normans who came before (Strongbow restoring Diarmuit McMurchada) and in the wake of Henry II, English rule, the so called land of peace was more in the character of enclaves around Dublin and various chartered towns with various Norman nobles intermittently recognising royal authority, which did little for them in opposing or allying with Irish rulers.

tl;dr age of sail Ireland was inevitably something England tried to rule.

 

[Sped Xing]

Ireland was an easy sail to England. It meant any exile could threaten England. The last Anglo-Saxon king was able to shelter in what the Anglo-Saxon chronicle called Dublinshire. Until the industrial revolution, Ireland was not that much smaller of a population. The nearest to independence Ireland could have had was for a dependent monarch from the same family as Henry II, which could have happened with John, who would have only plagued a small Norman nobility in Munster and Dublin. That said, except for a period where most of Ireland was overrun by the Normans who came before (Strongbow restoring Diarmuit McMurchada) and in the wake of Henry II, English rule, the so called land of peace was more in the character of enclaves around Dublin and various chartered towns with various Norman nobles intermittently recognising royal authority, which did little for them in opposing or allying with Irish rulers.

tl;dr age of sail Ireland was inevitably something England tried to rule.

Yes but it's full of Micks.

 

[Windows XP Home Edition]

Irish independence was a dumb idea to begin with.

The people who are trying to make a "Shared Island" are absolutely delusional and don't realize we'll see more incidents like this in the future with that approach. Honestly, in spite of all the hard work done by Irish nationalists and campaigners for centuries being underminded, I think Ireland would've been better off under the UK. The men and women in the 1916 uprising would be horrified to see what's currently happening in Ireland right now.

 

[More AWS-8Q Than You]

I've always felt a bit for the Irish, the English have always abused the fuck out of them in ways they don't abuse the Scots and Welsh. And that's especially cruel when you consider that the vikings had already fucked off with 9/10s of the attractive lasses to Iceland to try and create a master race through inbreeding.

 

[Windows XP Home Edition]

Some of the scenes that happened today. I love Belfast a lot so it pains me to see stuff like this happen. Hope all the innocent people are OK and unharmed.

 

[Cyclonus]