EU No alternative to the general compulsory vaccination - Austria, better known as south Germany, says forced vaccination is the only way. They were unwilling to answer whatever it would be a “permanent offense or a one-time thing”.

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Translated from German:

Health Minister Wolfgang Mückstein (Greens) and Constitutional Minister Karoline Edtstadler (ÖVP) announced this on Tuesday after the round table. Edtstadler also said that this was indeed an "encroachment on fundamental rights", but that this was itself judged by the ECJ and, given the situation, justified. The mandatory vaccination will come into force on February 1, 2022 as planned - from what age is still unclear.

Edtstadler and Mückstein emphasized in unison that the talks with the experts and with "that part of the opposition who want to talk constructively about the compulsory vaccination" had gone very well. The Minister of Health said that it is currently in "a very difficult phase as far as the pandemic is concerned": "The corona vaccination - probably the best-studied drug in the world - is the only way out." And this is not his private opinion, but from countless experts already examined in detail: "The vaccination works, the vaccination is safe."

"Austria is moving ahead here"

There is no alternative to the introduction of a general compulsory vaccination, according to Mückstein: "This is the only way we can get closer to the goal of not getting a fifth and sixth wave or further lockdowns." Many other countries would also discuss this step, "Austria is going as one of the first countries ahead ”. Of course, according to Mückstein, this is an interference with fundamental rights, which is why “we have decided here to conduct a very broad dialogue”.

Edtstadler said that further talks will be held and that there will be constant dialogue with the experts: "We did not want that, we did not want a mandatory vaccination, but the situation is dramatic when we look at the intensive care units." The minister also thanked them Party leaders Pamela Rendi-Wagner (SPÖ) and Beate Meindl-Reisinger (NEOS), who took part in the round table together with the experts.

Edtstadler apologizes to those who are concerned
It is now important that the legal prerequisites are created "that the vaccination requirement lasts". It was also judged by the European Court of Human Rights that an encroachment on fundamental rights was justified in this case. "The vaccination is the only exit from the pandemic," said the minister. And she apologized to those people who had concerns, "do not feel addressed and now feel pushed into a corner with radicals". These people have to be reached, says Edtstadler. And that requires a broad alliance.

Age is still open, but elementary school children tend not to
Edtstadler did not want to say anything about the unanswered questions such as the age from which the mandatory vaccination should apply and how high the possible penalties will be: "These are questions that have been discussed." However, there have been no concrete stipulations today. When it came to the age limit, the age of 14 was mentioned again and again, according to Edtstadler. From this point in time, you will also come of age in Austria. But that is also a point that will still be discussed. Likewise, the question of whether it is a “permanent offense or a one-time thing”.

Expert: "Penalties must be appropriate"

Even before the summit, infectious diseases specialist Christoph Wenisch and constitutional and medical lawyer Karl Stöger commented on the compulsory vaccination and explicitly spoke out in favor of it. Wenisch emphasized that this was the only way to “prevent many terrible fates”. When asked about the size of the penalties, Stöger replied that they were “proportionate, but also strong enough to achieve the desired goal”.

Before the meeting, SPÖ leader Pamela Rendi-Wagner once again emphasized that a high vaccination rate was the only way to “break the vicious circle of lockdowns”. The vaccination is necessary because the government has not managed to increase the vaccination rate. Because compulsory vaccination is a "very sensitive issue", the SPÖ boss is "very happy" that this exchange with experts is taking place.

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Jesus Christ. This is actual fucking madness.

How long until they refound the fucking Gestapo? Are people who refuse now, going to wind up in camps by the end of 2022?
 
Are people who refuse now, going to wind up in camps by the end of 2022?
Again, they specifically refused to say that it would not be a "permanent offense". Seems pretty suspicious to me. At this point, I'd believe there'd be camps, considering some countries already have them. Australia, for example, has covid camps based on race according to the mainstream media. Here's another article.
Austria is rightful German clay.
Anschluss all the way, baby!
 
Gee i wonder why that is
Dumb fucking morons
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Literally 1 person dying per day, maxing out at 2.5. The EU's daily death count is somewhere in the 14000 range.

I can see why people would look at those numbers and decide to hedge their bets.
Yeah that's per one hundred thousand. Most countries have populations in the tens of millions, which means covid deaths in that range is more than fucking car crashes of all things. Learn statistics before you spout off retarded bullshit you hideous cock
 
Wait we can have camps based on race?

I came. If lefties and vaccine policies put fascism into power again, I'll start being religious.

Rainbow people, minorities, into the fun camp!
 
Gee i wonder why that is
Dumb fucking morons
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It's okay to violate bodily autonomy if heavily massaged data from Experts™ (brought to you by Pfizer) tells us that international pharmaceutical corporations that have secret contracts with world governments and legal immunity from consequences needs our help to push their products on more people.
 
Gee i wonder why that is
Dumb fucking morons
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Source? Also 1 death per 100 000 is not much, whatever country the data is from. I'll presume it's for Austria. In Austria there are plenty of diseases that have the same or similar death rate (like flu for example) Covid in Austria is only 7% of all deaths compared with something like cancer which is 24% of all deaths among women and 29% of all deaths among men in Austria. Mandatory vaccinations also would have no impact on the daily cases (and indeed has not in places with 90% vaccination (like Ireland, Israel, etc)) because vaccine does not reduce your ability to catch covid (or does so by very little bit), and some variants are practically immune to it (see the new one and the delta one which boasted being 251 times more likely to get a breakthrough infection than all other variants)

That being said, I'm not gonna argue about this. The problem is moral, not scientific. You want the vaccine, take it. You don't, don't. That's how it's been, and should remain, especially for a virus with 98.2% survivability rate (in USA)
Most countries have populations in the tens of millions, which means covid deaths in that range is more than fucking car crashes of all things.
In Austria, the country of debate, the car crash deaths are at 4.7 per 100 000 (4.7 times more than unvaccinated covid as per your screenshot) and the average in Europe is 5.1. Source. USA has a rate of 11.9 per 100 000. In your own words, "Learn statistics before you spout off retarded bullshit you hideous cock"

Most countries have populations in the tens of millions
Only 91 out of 235 countries have 10 mil or above in population. That's ~38%
 
Source? Also 1 death per 100 000 is not much, whatever country the data is from. I'll presume it's for Austria. In Austria there are plenty of diseases that have the same or similar death rate (like flu for example) Covid in Austria is only 7% of all deaths compared with something like cancer which is 24% of all deaths among women and 29% of all deaths among men in Austria. Mandatory vaccinations also would have no impact on the daily cases (and indeed has not in places with 90% vaccination (like Ireland, Israel, etc)) because vaccine does not reduce your ability to catch covid (or does so by very little bit), and some variants are practically immune to it (see the new one and the delta one which boasted being 251 times more likely to get a breakthrough infection than all other variants)

That being said, I'm not gonna argue about this. The problem is moral, not scientific. You want the vaccine, take it. You don't, don't. That's how it's been, and should remain, especially for a virus with 98.2% survivability rate (in USA)

In Austria, the country of debate, the car crash deaths are at 4.7 per 100 000 (4.7 times more than unvaccinated covid as per your screenshot) and the average in Europe is 5.1. Source. USA has a rate of 11.9 per 100 000. In your own words, "Learn statistics before you spout off retarded bullshit you hideous cock"


Only 91 out of 235 countries have 10 mil or above in population. That's ~38%
Woah, it's almost like we should give people an injection that gives people immunity to the flu. It's almost like we do that every year and it massively prevents flu related deaths. Its almost like the covid vaccine does the exact same thing. Fucking mind blowing, imagine that
 
Woah, it's almost like we should give people an injection that gives people immunity to the flu. It's almost like we do that every year and it massively prevents flu related deaths. Its almost like the covid vaccine does the exact same thing. Fucking mind blowing, imagine that
I don't see why the moving of the goal posts was required. This is not even related to anything in specific I said, and interestingly ignores your hypocrisy about the statistics. This also moves the issue from mandatory vaccination, to just vaccination in general.
 
"The vaccination is the only exit from the pandemic,"

Imagine still thinking that with all of the evidence and SCIENCE saying otherwise

Yeah that's per one hundred thousand. Most countries have populations in the tens of millions, which means covid deaths in that range is more than fucking car crashes of all things. Learn statistics before you spout off retarded bullshit you hideous cock

9/10 people enjoy gang rape. Gang rape is good. l3rn 2 statistiks betteh

Now do Obesity related deaths caused directly by shite being put in to food and places like McDonalds serving food with poisin in it (as in, the body cannot break it down via exercise)
 
Gee i wonder why that is
Dumb fucking morons
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Seriously, where is this from? Can't be from Austria since it's about 800 too small, can't be from US, because US has (right now) 90 breakthrough infections per 100 000 (down from 121 in September)

So, you just pulled some random countries data, country we weren't even talking about, to try and prove your point? Some disingenuous piece of shit you are.
 
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