🐱 No, All Opinions Are Not Equally Valid

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Yesterday, a stranger on social media was defending Fox News host Tucker Carlson’s disturbing steadfast support of Russian President Vladimir Putin and the continual flood of atrocities being committed in Ukraine. When I pressed the self-identified Christian man and questioned how a faith-based argument could be made for this kind of advocacy, he left a reply I’ve received a few thousand times in similar situations:

“Oh, you Liberals are so tolerant, unless someone disagrees with you!”

Yeah, that’s not how this works.

One of the greatest lies people propagate is that all opinions are valid: that every position is somehow equally worthy of merit and deserving of consideration.

We’re often led to believe that in every situation where an impasse is reached, the most humane response is to “agree to disagree” and to coexist with that person. That sounds like a noble conclusion but in reality it simply isn’t true. It’s also dangerous and in situations where people’s lives hang in the balance it can be deadly.

The idea that being open-minded means being passive, is often weaponized by Conservatives in times of conflict. It’s a tried-and-true conversation-stopper: a supposed “gotcha” attempt to shame people on the Left into silence and submission, as if loud and sustained opposition to anything they believe or amplify is somehow an inconsistency that reveals our hypocrisy.

Ridiculous.

It is not a requirement of tolerant people to tolerate everything equally. Our patience and understanding and forbearance are not infinite. There are limits.

We can be open to hearing someone’s story—and conclude once we have heard it, that something in that story has yielded a position that is too hateful or violent to presently bear.

We can be accepting of a wide swath of world views and belief systems and attitudes, while declaring some of them a bridge too far for us to share space with or have relational proximity too.

We can be really good listeners—and eventually decide that what we have heard is fully abhorrent and not within the acceptable parameters of our morality.

Saying that we believe in diversity does not come with the expectation that we will object to nothing and that we will abide everything—actually it’s quite the opposite.

Precisely because disparate humanity is of such importance to us, we can and should come to the conclusion that certain beliefs, legislation, movements, and people are antithetical to life, they are adversarial to that humanity:

Supporting a murderous dictator as he slaughters residents of a neighboring country by the thousands for real estate and resources, is not a valid opinion.

Dehumanizing young people for their gender identity or sexual orientation and celebrating legislation preying upon them, is not a valid opinion.

Justifying a violent insurrection because you didn’t like the outcome of an election, is not a valid opinion.

Defending the murders of people of color because you have unrepentant racism that devalues the inherent worth lives, is not a valid opinion.

There are many positions that decent people should disqualify.

Yes, countless perspectives on international conflicts or gun legislation or government spending or environmental dangers are within the confines of what our tolerance will accommodate and what reasonable debate will hold—but not all of them.

We can disagree on all sorts of issues without that disagreement being a deal breaker, but there are some things that as people of faith, morality, and conscience, we simply will not allow.

That isn’t a betrayal of our progressive stance, but an affirmation of it.

Racism is not up for debate.
Homophobic hatred is not worthy of equal time.
There is no defense of genocide.

There are not two legitimate sides in every situation.

No, not all opinions are valid.

Some are simply wrong.
 
Opinion without action is just noise. Something wokies seem to have forgotten, if they ever knew it to begin with.
 
I can't believe that site is still around. Cat Party might be the only person to click that article.
 
If you can't agree and you can't agree to disagree then there are only two options depending on the situation; avoid one another or fight. That's it. If that's truly where these people think we are then they're definitely talking about secession or civil war. Are they prepared for either? I seriously doubt it.
 
“Oh, you Liberals are so tolerant, unless someone disagrees with you!”

aylmao, what a triggered butthurt faggot. That stuck deep in that sucker's craw, and hit a nerve. Fuckin' Bullseye! Ha-hah!


Fun fact, I'm pretty liberal myself. I just happen to acknowledge that there are times when civility goes out the window and that human kind is imperfect, which is not the end of the world and civilization as we speak. There are also many hypocrites, virtue signallers, and carpet baggers who are not assed to practice what is preached and like giving liberalism a bad name as we speak, and they deserve to be called out as what they are. Fuck them.
 
Yesterday, a stranger on social media was defending Fox News host Tucker Carlson’s disturbing steadfast support of Russian President Vladimir Putin and the continual flood of atrocities being committed in Ukraine.
I wonder, is the person who wrote this article an expert on Russo-Ukrainian relations? On the history surrounding events like the Ukrainian government idolising Axis collaborators like Stepan Bandera and discriminating against ethnic Russians? Does he know about the complex history between the two countries which has culminated in this war? Chances are, probably not. He believes the invasion is bad because that's what the media has told him to think. He really does think the level of complexity involved here is "big country invade smaller country, so big country bad". Bonus points if he supported the Iraq War in 2003.

If he were true to his principle of "not all opinions should be considered valid", then his own stance would be something closer to "I don't know enough about the context behind this war to have a valid opinion". But then if he were capable of introspection and self-doubt he probably wouldn't have a job writing for a site with a name like "The Good Men Project".
 
Me? I only have one opinion about opinions. The old tried and true.

Opinions are like assholes. Everybody has one (including myself) and they all stink.

Doesn't mean I won't hear you out, but I will still call you an asshole.
 
We can disagree on all sorts of issues without that disagreement being a deal breaker, but there are some things that as people of faith, morality, and conscience, we simply will not allow.

That isn’t a betrayal of our progressive stance, but an affirmation of it.
I demand freedom of speech because that is according to your principles.
I deny you freedom of speech because that is according to my (progressive) principles.
 
How was this not written by an AI?

Edit: Apparently he thinks he's a Christian or something…? He certainly doesn't worship the Jesus I know of, based off this article.

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So, we've got a guy with obvious mental issues (quirkily admits to emotional eating like a woman would) schooling his strawmen on morality. He extrapolates heartlessness and wicked intent that wasn't there in the first place.

Despite seeing racism and homophobia as objectionable, he doesn't factor in the evil of mankind… which would be the crux of all this hatred from a Christian point of view, wouldn't it? No, instead he attributes ALL societal hatred to the Conservative mindset. In his mind, it truly boils down to backwards politics. I understand that you might not want to write your article with a religious bias, but this screams ignorance and hypocrisy to me, at least spiritually. He either doesn't get it or is purposefully writing this way for the paycheck.

Reading this over, I think he was so massively butthurt by the argument he had with the Internet stranger that he wrote this with a still-racing heart, assuming his opponent hated blacks and trans kids the whole time hee wrote it. He didn't get the final word in, so he had to condemn the stranger in post.

Of course, he doesn't try to minister to anyone, show them the love of Christ and turn them from their hateful ways, 'cause he'd rather dunk on meany Conservatards that bring people to salvation.

The dude also looks like he'll take long, hard stares at your kids in public settings.
this guy is a cryptojew grifter and an associate of lolcow Patrick S. Tomlinson. He ran afoul of the ONA rascals, but wisely stopped engaging pretty early on
 
We can be open to hearing someone’s story—and conclude once we have heard it, that something in that story has yielded a position that is too hateful or violent to presently bear.”
What a strange position to take. They’re saying that the objective truth or not is irrelevant and the ‘validity’ of a story is based on how ‘hateful’ or ‘painful’ it is? Could you get a better example of how the modern mindset is about feelings over reality? Plenty of stuff that’s hateful or violent is true and plenty of stuff that’s fluffy and nice is false.
What he’s saying is that he will decide what’s talked about, and frankly he can fuck off with that. For gods sake, yanks, don’t go down the hatespeech road like europe has, it’s the nail in the coffin of a free society
 
Supporting a murderous dictator as he slaughters residents of a neighboring country by the thousands for real estate and resources, is not a valid opinion.

DOES NOT EQUAL hey, maybe whatever they're doing over in that corner of the world isn't anything I am interested in taking sides on.

Dehumanizing young people for their gender identity or sexual orientation and celebrating legislation preying upon them, is not a valid opinion.

Asserting that children should be protected from actual predators who inject sex into K-3 curricula and want drag queens reading to their kids is a very valid stance.

Justifying a violent insurrection because you didn’t like the outcome of an election, is not a valid opinion.

Protesting against an election that was demonstrably and blatantly "tinkered with" and taking a tour of the Capitol while doing so is factually how some folks see it, just like:

Defending the murders of people of color because you have unrepentant racism that devalues the inherent worth lives, is not a valid opinion.

Another imbecile who genuinely thinks the summer of love was all innocent choir boys playing recklessly with matches and that niggers should be allowed to run feral and do the shooty-shoot as long as it's contained in their own 'hoods.
 
Opinions are like assholes, everyone has them and they can produce shit.

The difference is if people are shitting on toilets (where they belong) or if they are shitting on their pants.

What I mean with that is that you must know what you are talking about first AND use said opinion appropriately. It requires maturity and character to do so and I know most of the left does not have that.

*searches his early life*

crtl+F "jewish"

*finds nothing*


 
Does anyone actually say you have to accept all opinions as valid?

Why do I imagine that if I went and found this possibly mythological tweet the guy was butthurt enough about to write a whole column that it might have actually been someone saying you can't arrest Tucker Carlson for "treason" or arguing that Tucker Carlson has a right to repeat Russian propaganda if he wants to or something else along these lines?
 


Pavlovitz was born in Syracuse, New York to a middle-class family of Italian and Judeo-Russian Descent, and was raised as a member of the Catholic Church.[1][2] He studied graphic design at the University of the Arts in Philadelphia.[1][3]

He's Russian! That means we have a right to verbally abuse him on Facebook! :tomgirl:
 
I know CatParty searches out for the shittiest, most deranged clickbait that he can find, but with the increasingly sinister articles (and like always, without a shred of sarcasm or self-awareness), I feel like it's a matter of time before someone writes a real, unironic article about putting conservatives/white males/etc. in camps.
 
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