Nintendo Switch (Currently Plagued) - Here we shit post about the new Nintendo console, The Switch

[Miller]

Games sell systems, always have. I actually think you're partially right, this could hinder Switch 2, but if they advertise appropriately and drill it into everyone's heads, "Hey, this new Mario? IT'S ONLY FOR SWITCH 2. 2. FUCKING T-W-O, YOU STUPID NIGGERS!!!!" then it should be fine. They just need a great launch library, pricing, marketing, etc. If they throw it out to die, hoping it sells itself coasting on Switch 1, it's gonna be a problem.

I still think that they should have kept Tears of the Kingdom for the Switch 2.

 

[Niggernerd]

It'll look the same and still beat Sony and Microsoft Nintendo and PC are literally the only things worth getting. I'm optimistic since it's backwards compatible (I have a lot of games because of sales) and they definitely needed a bit of extra oomf in specs to have them running better. Though i do wish nintendo would let you buy games from all E-shops. I want SRW 30, V and X god dammit.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

Either Neptunia did something that even the relatively lax modern Nintendo was not fine with or Nintendo Woke Infection spread. Best start accelerating woke death.

But the confusing part is them still being on Sony's woke consoles, which have been skipped over by many such games by now. It's weird. Either way, if Nintendo is fully cucking to Wokeism it's over. Mild symptoms have been there for a while, I just hope we can squeak out a passable next generation out of them...

What evil teams in Pokemon are is Bond Villains. Different flavours of Bond Villains. All of them played that role adequately (apart from Flare). There was nothing that they lacked that Rocket had.

Sure there was, Rocket was relatively grounded and logical within the Pokemon universe. Crime exists everywhere, why not Pokeworld? But I check out when we start going into all the over-the-top, wacky, nonsensical goals.

That still existed in most games.

No it didn't. Gen 3 immediately made legendaries the focus and it stayed that way to varying degrees. I'm playing Ultra Moon currently for the first time so I'm experiencing this shit in real-time.

There's more dialogue about guardian spirit Pokemon in S&M so far (got up to the Fire badge equivalent so far) than about all the legendaries in the entirety of both gens 1 & 2 combined. And it's more boring and gay to boot. There's no feeling of mystery or sense of strength I get from this legendary, at least gen 3 got the latter part right.

The mystique of legendaries faded drastically after gen 2, it's just an objective fact.

Nah, I disagree. Meganium: It looks too bland for something so flower themed. Typhlosion: It has too tiny arms for my liking. Makes it look awkward. Feraligatr: Maybe it would have benefited from not being bipedal? Crocodilians on two legs look very weird. As for the Gen 3 starters, I like them but I do not think of them perfect either. Sceptile blades look weirder than its pre-evolution, Blaziken should have the crown of a rooster since that looks like a fire and it would fit and Swampert could use a tail to balance out the design. Overall, I prefer the Gen 3 starters but both are far from perfect.

Meganium's face kills it for me. It's one of the earliest designs that felt like it was trending "modern" to me . A problem is most new Pokemon don't look like monsters. Look at Pikachu as the best example of this cute-ification, that same principle they're applying to his changed design is what they did to almost all Pokemon moving forward past gen 2.

Typhlosion looks like like a tiny kaiju, I like him a lot. Feraligatr being bipidal works, and I say that as someone who typically hates that, but usually in more human-like forms, like Blaziken. There is no saving Blaziken, he goes in the woodchipper.

Sceptile is cool, but he needs a sharper look in his eye like Scyther or something. He looks unintimidating. Swampert exists. He's a little bit overdesigned with those spikey cheeks and armor pads, too loud looking, but at least not an incoherent mess like Blaziken.

They made better cars since then.

But your implication was the older Ford was worse than everything that came after. Plus I just think that it's an apples & oranges comparison, because cars are about utility first and foremost, evolving almost entirely linearly and not focusing on creativity for fun's sake.

I said it before, but sheer mechanical polish isn't important for games, it's very secondary, otherwise TLOU2 is great overall, and better than TLOU1 in particular. Newer =/= better.

Not a single one of the PS3's models looks even remotely as similar to the PS4 as the Switch 2 does to the Switch 1.

Still close enough. And besides, GB looked like GBC, DS looked like 3DS, their portables have sometimes looked pretty dang similar. Not as similar as this, granted, but nobody looked as GBC and turned up their nose or walked away confused.

And you weren't just talking about looks, you said all they did was make Switch stronger and add a button. PS4 added a button (the touchpad) and made it stronger. The design is more different but that particular set of critiques applied exactly to Sony.

This does not matter if the systems look almost exactly the same.

No, it does. If it's a notable, distinguishing feature that outweighs the aesthetic similarity significantly. You're underestimating functionality and overestimating aesthetics.

Hence why I made such an enormous deal out of the packaging of them. If the Switch 2 has a similar method of playing games to the Switch 1, you will see mountains of clueless parents buying Switch 2 games for their childrens' Switch 1s and throwing a fit when they don't work.

That's why I said if they market it correctly it should be fine. If it's the same but with a 2 on it then they're Sega-tier incompetent.

Optimistic, I hope this happens. I don't know how much it'll work given how insanely personalized most advertising has become nowadays. Even parents aren't really watching cable TV anymore, so I doubt that'll help Nintendo nearly as much as it did in ye olden days.

This is Nintendo we're talking about here, even casuals keep up on them to a degree by their own volition. And no matter how personalized your advertising may be they can get it in front of everyone if they want to, they have deep pockets. That's why everyone jokes about RAID: SHADOW LEGENDS, nobody plays that shit but it's a meme at this point. And that's just one mobile game from God who knows what company. You don't play it, neither do I, but I know damn well you are aware of it.

People still watch sports and stuff, and go outside too, they're not solely at the mercy of YouTube ads or whatever.

I truly don't trust in the launch library being great.

They've had so long to prepare for this that if they fuck it up then I'd be surprised. Mario was year 1 of Switch. If that's not there then this is Nintendo's Sega Saturn moment.

Metroid Prime 4 has to be there. It is too early for a new 3D Zelda unless they've been working on a remake or something, but I can see WW/TP HD being ready, it would explain their absence thus far.

If Nintendo is at all competent the launch will be stacked. They have a mixed history on this though, so it's possible they drop the ball, but I doubt it.

a new Pokémon generation

I could see that later in the year but not at launch. As for the series' sales, aren't S&V now the best selling or at least fastest selling? That's after S&S which had a huge controversy about the Pokedex and its own quality issues. Nothing is stopping the Pokemon train from chugging along. I hope so, but it's just too much of a juggernaut.

Eugh, I hope not. That's a dystopian future for entertainment if ever I've heard of one. Great for the companies, I'm sure, but that'd be hell for the average consumer. Then again, what in the modern AAA industry isn't.

Well, with diminishing returns on graphics it kinda makes sense. Nintendo has more room in this regard than Sony. PS6 will be indistinguishable from PS5 Pro. Switch 2 will be a significant upgrade and leave room for Switch 3 no problem, probably Switch 4. After that...I mean, what can you do?

Instead they are doing literally the exact same thing and expecting us to upgrade.

It's too early to say that. I'm still anticipating some kind of subdued gimmick. I'd like VR personally, and it makes sense because they dipped their little toe into it on Switch already. They also toyed with AR. We might see both. Either way it's not just gonna be a stronger Switch, it'll have a feature to distinguish itself imo. Yes, it'll primarily be just a stronger Switch, but what do you really want? I think you mentioned dual screens, and I'd like some variation of that, but it's extremely unlikely and a very specific, niche complaint.

I still think that they should have kept Tears of the Kingdom for the Switch 2.

I'd have bet money they were going to. I was surprised they didn't, honestly. Kinda dumb if they don't have some new Zelda considering their 2 best selling consoles launched with them.

 

[Incecticyder]

But the confusing part is them still being on Sony's woke consoles, which have been skipped over by many such games by now. It's weird. Either way, if Nintendo is fully cucking to Wokeism it's over. Mild symptoms have been there for a while, I just hope we can squeak out a passable next generation out of them...

We will see. Maybe it had nothing to do with woke.

Sure there was, Rocket was relatively grounded and logical within the Pokemon universe. Crime exists everywhere, why not Pokeworld? But I check out when we start going into all the over-the-top, wacky, nonsensical goals.

SOMEWHAT GROUNDED! Let us not kid ourselves. They were planning on taking over the world with genetically engineered clones of a mythical creature. Nearly every villain team had the same goal. The creatures they would use differed.

No it didn't. Gen 3 immediately made legendaries the focus and it stayed that way to varying degrees. I'm playing Ultra Moon currently for the first time so I'm experiencing this shit in real-time.

There's more dialogue about guardian spirit Pokemon in S&M so far (got up to the Fire badge equivalent so far) than about all the legendaries in the entirety of both gens 1 & 2 combined. And it's more boring and gay to boot. There's no feeling of mystery or sense of strength I get from this legendary, at least gen 3 got the latter part right.

The mystique of legendaries faded drastically after gen 2, it's just an objective fact.

Depends? Some treat it with mystique, some do not as much. In Gen 4, the creatures are gods, in Gen 5 it is more symbolic than anything, Gen 6 has them be gods again, Gen 7 has them be more like Kami (or should I say the Polynesian idea) than the more Western interpretation of a deity, Gen 8 has them be symbolic again and Gen 9 has no gods until you unleash the four perils.

Meganium's face kills it for me. It's one of the earliest designs that felt like it was trending "modern" to me . A problem is most new Pokemon don't look like monsters. Look at Pikachu as the best example of this cute-ification, that same principle they're applying to his changed design is what they did to almost all Pokemon moving forward past gen 2.

The face I do not mind. I just want more flowers and colors. It is boring.

Typhlosion looks like like a tiny kaiju, I like him a lot. Feraligatr being bipidal works, and I say that as someone who typically hates that, but usually in more human-like forms, like Blaziken. There is no saving Blaziken, he goes in the woodchipper.

I do not like hunches. They look weird. I wish Blaziken actually looked like a fighting rooster. Maybe give in larger talons such as those that are attached to roosters in cockfights? And I did not like its feather hair. The fire punches are cool.

Sceptile is cool, but he needs a sharper look in his eye like Scyther or something. He looks unintimidating. Swampert exists. He's a little bit overdesigned with those spikey cheeks and armor pads, too loud looking, but at least not an incoherent mess like Blaziken.

Sceptile just needed to be slicker.

No it didn't. Gen 3 immediately made legendaries the focus and it stayed that way to varying degrees. I'm playing Ultra Moon currently for the first time so I'm experiencing this shit in real-time.

There's more dialogue about guardian spirit Pokemon in S&M so far (got up to the Fire badge equivalent so far) than about all the legendaries in the entirety of both gens 1 & 2 combined. And it's more boring and gay to boot. There's no feeling of mystery or sense of strength I get from this legendary, at least gen 3 got the latter part right.

The mystique of legendaries faded drastically after gen 2, it's just an objective fact.

USUM is inferior to the original SM. The only thing it adds is the third legendary's story. Apart from that, the original is the better script.

Still close enough. And besides, GB looked like GBC, DS looked like 3DS, their portables have sometimes looked pretty dang similar. Not as similar as this, granted, but nobody looked as GBC and turned up their nose or walked away confused.

And you weren't just talking about looks, you said all they did was make Switch stronger and add a button. PS4 added a button (the touchpad) and made it stronger. The design is more different but that particular set of critiques applied exactly to Sony.

I feel that it will depend on how they market it. Do a good show of how it is a different console and it will be enough.

That's why I said if they market it correctly it should be fine. If it's the same but with a 2 on it then they're Sega-tier incompetent.

We need to wait and see.

They've had so long to prepare for this that if they fuck it up then I'd be surprised. Mario was year 1 of Switch. If that's not there then this is Nintendo's Sega Saturn moment.

Metroid Prime 4 has to be there. It is too early for a new 3D Zelda unless they've been working on a remake or something, but I can see WW/TP HD being ready, it would explain their absence thus far.

If Nintendo is at all competent the launch will be stacked. They have a mixed history on this though, so it's possible they drop the ball, but I doubt it.

That is why they have yet to announce it. They wait until they know they can have a big launch.

I could see that later in the year but not at launch. As for the series' sales, aren't S&V now the best selling or at least fastest selling? That's after S&S which had a huge controversy about the Pokedex and its own quality issues. Nothing is stopping the Pokemon train from chugging along. I hope so, but it's just too much of a juggernaut.

GF needs to learn to take its time and hire actual staff that is familiar with open world design. Get the Monolith Soft guys to teach your staff for a couple games!

Well, with diminishing returns on graphics it kinda makes sense. Nintendo has more room in this regard than Sony. PS6 will be indistinguishable from PS5 Pro. Switch 2 will be a significant upgrade and leave room for Switch 3 no problem, probably Switch 4. After that...I mean, what can you do?

PS5 is indistinguishable from the PS5Pro! Some games run worse on the Pro than the standard!

It's too early to say that. I'm still anticipating some kind of subdued gimmick. I'd like VR personally, and it makes sense because they dipped their little toe into it on Switch already. They also toyed with AR. We might see both. Either way it's not just gonna be a stronger Switch, it'll have a feature to distinguish itself imo. Yes, it'll primarily be just a stronger Switch, but what do you really want? I think you mentioned dual screens, and I'd like some variation of that, but it's extremely unlikely and a very specific, niche complaint.

In my experience, VR if for breaking expensive electronics and little more.

I'd have bet money they were going to. I was surprised they didn't, honestly. Kinda dumb if they don't have some new Zelda considering their 2 best selling consoles launched with them.

I get why they did it. They wanted the Switch to have its dedicated mainline Zelda game. BOTW was that for the Wii U, Skyward Sword and Twilight Princess were that for the Wii, Wind Waker was for the Game Cube etc etc.

 

[Soggy Floppa]

That switch 2 video is obviously fake and I dont understand why all of you are falling for it

 

[6MillionCoofs]

Get the Monolith Soft guys to teach your staff for a couple games!

Considering how many times Monolith is turning up in credits of other games now, I would not be surprised if they weren’t also helping Pokemon.

But unlike say Zelda Pokemon does not have even a base experience in it. And well, their first go was pretty good. Their second go, people are not complaining about the open world but the fact they in fact did not want to be reminded of the games they say they loved as children and how buggy they were.

If anything they just need pollish time.

 

[Dr. Arinsu]

What is it with people who use the “if it walks like a duck…” analogy having the faggiest takes imaginable? It’s way too common to be a coincidence.

Has the same energy as, why don't you shit in one hand and hope in the other, and see which one fills up faster?

 

[umseriously]

What are the odds of a remake for the first Pokemon games for the Switch 2 happening?

 

[Two Dollars]

What are the odds of a remake for the first Pokemon games for the Switch 2 happening?

I know over-reliance on Kanto is a meme, but come on, we just got Let’s Go. Zero chance.

 

[starborn427614]

That switch 2 video is obviously fake and I dont understand why all of you are falling for it

It having the exact same colours as the original Switch was a big giveaway. Nintendo can be dense, but they're scared shitless of another Wii U incident and won't make a simple mistake like that to confuse the consumer.

 

[6MillionCoofs]

What are the odds of a remake for the first Pokemon games for the Switch 2 happening?

Zero. We just got Lets Go.

And the only reason we got that was to try and transfer people from a phone game to console.

And the only reason we got FRLG remakes was because there wasn’t any other way to get Gen 1 Pokemon previously due to a rushing the GBA and not having enough time to figure out how to do it.

They are more likely to release a Gen 2 or 3 remake on the Switch 2 since those are the ones furtherest away from being remade now.

 

[Anonitolia]

Let's Go is as old as Fire Red and Leaf Green were when Heart Gold and Soul Silver came out. Plus, the thirtieth anniversary's coming up soon. You're underestimating GameFreak's retardation. Also, why is this in the Switch thread?

That switch 2 video is obviously fake and I dont understand why all of you are falling for it

I won't disagree, but I'm pessimistic enough believe against all rationality that it could be real. It's probably not, but I've seen stupider business decisions from both Nintendo and other companies before. Also it gave me an opportunity to sperg about the worst-case scenario for a Switch 2 and apparently I needed that off my chest way more than i expected. I guess the years of endless, stupid speculation have been getting to me.

 

[whatever I feel like]

What are the odds of a remake for the first Pokemon games for the Switch 2 happening?

Better than what everyone else is saying, but only because you're asking us to predict out to, like, 2033. Will they have a R/G remake out in the next nine years? Yeah, I dunno, seems somewhat likely to me.

 

[NerdShamer]

Let's Go is as old as Fire Red and Leaf Green were when Heart Gold and Soul Silver came out. Plus, the thirtieth anniversary's coming up soon. You're underestimating GameFreak's retardation. Also, why is this in the Switch thread?

Logically, the next "remaster" should be Gen V. But I honestly don't expect much from GF, nowadays. We'll be lucky if the next generation didn't suck ass.

 

[Never Scored]

Personally, I thought Pokemon was a bit gay even when it came out. I only play man games like Kirby, not baby games..

 

[starborn427614]

Another potential look at the Switch 2 from an accessory maker.

https://gonintendo.com/contents/43837-rumor-accessory-maker-gives-our-best-look-at-switch-2-yet

 

[Two Dollars]

When 5-10 different leakers/accessory manufacturers are all leaking the same thing, it’s safe to assume it’s real. So what could that C button be? It’s not Capture, that already has a button.

 

[NerdShamer]

So what could that C button be? It’s not Capture, that already has a button.

Should be tied to an unique gimmick that most of the games would probably never use.

 

[whatever I feel like]

When 5-10 different leakers/accessory manufacturers are all leaking the same thing, it’s safe to assume it’s real. So what could that C button be? It’s not Capture, that already has a button.

It was already leaked but I forget what for, just assume its nothing good.

 

[Whoopsie Daisy]

When 5-10 different leakers/accessory manufacturers are all leaking the same thing, it’s safe to assume it’s real. So what could that C button be? It’s not Capture, that already has a button.

Connect? You can connect two switches together locally for online play for free?
(A handheld did have this feature but I can't remember which one)