Nintendo Switch (Currently Plagued) - Here we shit post about the new Nintendo console, The Switch

[Marissa Moira]

The first iPhone came out in 2007. The actual movement among JP studios early on was to handhelds (and to a lesser extent to java-based JP only mobile systems.)

Wasn't it earlier than that for the Japanese Developers? I remember the Kingdom hearts game that came out for flip phones.

There's a slew of lost early mobile games from japan.

 

[whatever I feel like]

Wasn't it earlier than that for the Japanese Developers? I remember the Kingdom hearts game that came out for flip phones.

There's a slew of lost early mobile games from japan.

For iPhone? I doubt it. Not by much anyway, it was announced in January and released in summer, developers wouldn't have gotten it that early. Stuff like that KH game was for DoCoMo phones and other trash like that.

 

[BananaSplit]

Bought those two imports from Amazon jp. There is Mary Skelter 2 that I've also ordered in nipponland but it's gonna take some time to be shipped.
I went for cartridges because each of those games are about 15GB big (and that's not counting the DLC for both Xenoblade 2 and Fuuraiki 4 that adds another extra 5GB each)

I finished Xenoblade Chronicles DE last year and it was a very pleasant game, definitively one of my favorite titles of the system. Cautious optimism for the sequel.
Fuuraiki 4 is from a game serie that can be labelled as a "japanese countryside travel simulator" that first started on Playstation 1, the fourth title is about exploring the Gifu prefecture region (the DLCs add the adjacent prefectures, some that were present in the previous games). More or less a substitute in the meantime after the coof meme threw a wrench in my vacation plans assuming that the hysteria ever does end in my country

I'm almost finished with Breath of the Wild after 35-40 hours of playtime. Just the last divine beast to liberate from Ganon's control (the Gerudo one) before kicking his butt later. I'll reserve my final judgement after I'm done with the game, but so far it's a decent game (with some glaring issues like the weapon durability that I may have mentioned earlier) but nothing more. And certainly not matching the good memories I have of Twilight Princess from a decade and half ago.

 

[Basic Blonde Boy]

Did the PS3 even have anything good that WASN'T multi-platform? Im genuinely asking because I can count a shit load of PS2 exclusives that were awesome, but don't remember the PS3 having anything worthwhile.

The PS3 was the ultimate underrated gem system to me. Most usually claim the GC, Dreamcast, or god forbid the Wii U for this title, but I think the PS3 goes understated.

A large problem with the PS3 was a lack of identity, Sony threw everything at the wall to try to get that system to stick, some good some bad. The biggest success stories from the PS3 were that of Uncharted, God of War, and Little Big Planet. Those three were very clearly the mascots of the system and were very popular for their time hence why they are still kicking today. Ratchet & Clank was a more moderate success on the system as A Crack in Time got quite a bit of buzz, but the after of that title sent Insomniac into financial troubles and caused them to not be present the first-half of the PS4. Infamous was also a decent success for its time, just not a mega icon.

The PS3 had a decent lineup, especially in its later years, but it was not a big hitter system. Again, I think the system lacked identity and proper marketing, so many great titles sort of just fell off before they even saw the light of day. If you are looking to get a PS3 I would recommend the initial R&C Future trilogy, Little Big Planet 1 & 2, Twisted Metal (2012), and PlayStation All-Stars. For gems that the internet seems to have some liking of, stuff like Uncharted, Sly 4, Infamous, Fat Princess, God of War, Resistance, and Killzone 2 are all considered decent if not great.

 

[Dom Cruise]

Sony got what it wanted, Blu-Ray beating HD-DVD in the format wars. Its just that they had to sacrifice a game console's price-competitiveness to do it. And then the cell was way too hard to program for while Microsoft made a lot of smart choices. Its really not too hard to see what happened. But like I said, Sony got, and still gets, a cut of those BD sales so they came out of things feeling happy anyway.

And all it took was permanently damaging video games as a medium!

The way I see it there's about 2, maybe 3 major divergent points for gaming over the last 16 years, the first is if the PS3 hadn't sucked, the second is if Wil Wright's Spore had turned out better, we'd be living in an entirely different gaming climate today, the third is if carpet baggers like Sarkeesian hadn't showed up.

In the lead up to the 7th gen there was a ton of potential for gaming to go mainstream, instead most of that audience went to the Wii where it was just a passing fad, had they been playing better, more complicated experiences on the PS3, there's no telling what might have happened.

Instead we got the worst of both worlds, gaming went just mainstream enough to allow carpet baggers like Sarkeesian to show up, but not mainstream to the point where it would have been harder for people like that to pull off their grift.

But just in general had the PS3 been a friendlier environment for devs, there's no telling what games might have been made.

 

[Agent Abe Caprine]

Did the PS3 even have anything good that WASN'T multi-platform? Im genuinely asking because I can count a shit load of PS2 exclusives that were awesome, but don't remember the PS3 having anything worthwhile.

The Yakuza games and Ratchet & Clank Future. Infamous was also good.

 

[Car Won't Crank]

A large problem with the PS3 was a lack of identity, Sony threw everything at the wall to try to get that system to stick, some good some bad.

I think that applies to PS Vita more than the PS3. Among the other exclusives, Gran Turismo 5 defined simcade on the PS3 for that generation.

 

[whatever I feel like]

And all it took was permanently damaging video games as a medium!

The way I see it there's about 2, maybe 3 major divergent points for gaming over the last 16 years, the first is if the PS3 hadn't sucked, the second is if Wil Wright's Spore had turned out better, we'd be living in an entirely different gaming climate today, the third is if carpet baggers like Sarkeesian hadn't showed up.

In the lead up to the 7th gen there was a ton of potential for gaming to go mainstream, instead most of that audience went to the Wii where it was just a passing fad, had they been playing better, more complicated experiences on the PS3, there's no telling what might have happened.

Instead we got the worst of both worlds, gaming went just mainstream enough to allow carpet baggers like Sarkeesian to show up, but not mainstream to the point where it would have been harder for people like that to pull off their grift.

But just in general had the PS3 been a friendlier environment for devs, there's no telling what games might have been made.

Spore had zero percent chance of being good. You can't actually mimic the creativeness of nature through game mechanics/procedural generation.

I guess my big three were MS had two chances to give up on games and leave (2005 and circa 2016) and took neither and the iPhone could have flopped.

 

[Basic Blonde Boy]

And all it took was permanently damaging video games as a medium!

The way I see it there's about 2, maybe 3 major divergent points for gaming over the last 16 years, the first is if the PS3 hadn't sucked, the second is if Wil Wright's Spore had turned out better, we'd be living in an entirely different gaming climate today, the third is if carpet baggers like Sarkeesian hadn't showed up.

In the lead up to the 7th gen there was a ton of potential for gaming to go mainstream, instead most of that audience went to the Wii where it was just a passing fad, had they been playing better, more complicated experiences on the PS3, there's no telling what might have happened.

Instead we got the worst of both worlds, gaming went just mainstream enough to allow carpet baggers like Sarkeesian to show up, but not mainstream to the point where it would have been harder for people like that to pull off their grift.

But just in general had the PS3 been a friendlier environment for devs, there's no telling what games might have been made.

I feel like there are so many other occurrences that lead to gaming’s downfall than PS3 bad and Spore bad. I would say an avalanche of poor decisions and circumstances, a lot built off of previous generations, are what caused gaming to suck. Here would be the ones I would look at:

1) The FPS boom. The end of the sixth gen formed a new titan for the gaming industry to contend with, that being Halo. The online multiplayer FPS took gaming by storm and soon everyone would try to copy, Sony going in with Killzone. Call of Duty was also a rising name. By the middle of the 7th gen, it was clear that FPS was the most profitable genre, causing the gaming industry to move towards over-saturating the market with them. Smaller projects and other genres would sort of be sidelined for one genre to rule all.

2) Hardcore gamers. Following the FPS craze, came the Hardcore crowd which only furthered helped in limiting what gaming was capable of. This crowd pushed gaming to just be FPS COD/Halo crap with little in between. This crowd would also start attacking “baby” games, primarily Nintendo. If you want an explanation for why Nintentards are so tribal and only play Nintendo games, here is why. Nintendo fans broke off from the gaming community to make their stand against “fake” games like the FPSs causing them to worship Nintendo as their god and become as secluded as their opponents.

3) The 20 year mark. Gaming at the time was hitting its 20 year mark, meaning Nostalgia for the 8-bit and 16-bit eras took hold. After AVGN we started getting more Retro types to come out and speak about how we need to regress the medium back to the good ol days.

4) Disrespect for casual titles. With the Wii and DS, casuals finally started playing games as Nintendo offered a plethora of new ways to use gaming. They created simple sports titles anyone can understand, cooking games, simulators, games aimed at girls, etc.. Nintendo tried their best to really expand what gaming was at the time to lure in people of all ages. The problem was the gamer audience did not view these as real games, or anything to be expanded on. Once again, it seems the mindset of what makes a real video game just hinders any growth in the industry. All these new genres would get regulated to phones soon enough and take away the new audience from pc or consoles till the Switch. Hate on Fitness Boxing all you want, but this is how games become mainstream, not just shoving more complex experiences onto people.

5) Graphics whoring. Having good graphics has always been a thing, but it took a negative turn come the HD era. The results of HD was higher costs. Higher costs meant less risk and less small studios popping up, hence why this era lacked the more compelling titles of the sixth gen that you spoke about Dom.

6) Focus on Western Devs over Japanese

7) DLC and online becoming a thing

The list could probably go on…

 

[Mike Stoklasa]

I'll reserve my final judgement after I'm done with the game, but so far it's a decent game (with some glaring issues like the weapon durability that I may have mentioned earlier) but nothing more.

I thought you were reserving your judgement? Now I am skeptical about your entire poat because of how wrong you are.

 

[Stab You in the Back]

Best PS3 sleeper is Tokyo Jungle, the game where you play as a small animal trying to survive and breed in post-apocalyptic Tokyo.

7) DLC and online becoming a thing

I like expansion packs. Sadly, Cuphead seems to be the only game doing it right.

 

[Nauseated Courgi]

7) DLC and online becoming a thing

That on its own isn't a bad thing. It depends on how it's done. Basically (at least to me anyway) it's a matter of:

Making us pay for content that should have been in the game in the first place? That's when it's done wrong.

Having us pay for additional content for what is already a complete game without it with no strings attached? That's generally when it's done right.

Also, do you mean online in general or paid online?

 

[Mike Stoklasa]

I actually really like DLC. A great number of games do it wrong, but I like the general premise.

Nintendo usually does a good job with it. And they have experimented with a few different approaches. Not many developers will limit how much you can spen or outright tell you that the game is "free to start" as opposed to "free to play". I really liked Rusty's Real Deal Baseball. It was a legitimately good game and it also had a unique DLC angle.

Expansion packs are the best way to go about it. A good DLC should be what used to be known as an expansion pack. You add a good amount of high quality content and/or new gameplay mechanics. We never would have gotten Civ IV Beyond the Sword (the best one) otherwise.

 

[Basic Blonde Boy]

That on its own isn't a bad thing. It depends on how it's done. Basically (at least to me anyway) it's a matter of:

Making us pay for content that should have been in the game in the first place? That's when it's done wrong.

Having us pay for additional content for what is already a complete game without it with no strings attached? That's generally when it's done right.

Also, do you mean online in general or paid online?

I do not hate DLC, but the practice of it can be seen as driving the industry into a negative direction given events like MvC3 or Street Fighter v Tekken. I should have elaborated more.

As for online, I mean more for games in general, though paid online has gotten significantly more scummy over the years. The constant push for online in games has had many downsides, more specifically, how it kills off single-player titles. Online is also bad for long term preservation as many games have players data stored in servers that can be shut down, take Mortal Kombat 11.

The two concepts are both factors that have risen and devastated the industry.

 

[whatever I feel like]

Civ eventually got really obnoxious with DLC in later years. Civ V, particularly had day 1, free with pre-order, DLC. And lets be real here, these days its an excuse to not include a fully fleshed out game at launch. None other than Nintendo themselves have been guilty of this in recent years with stuff like Splatoon, Animal Crossing, Mario Maker, Mario Tennis, Arms and probably some others all being released only half-way done and then dribbing out the rest over time.

 

[Nauseated Courgi]

Civ eventually got really obnoxious with DLC in later years. Civ V, particularly had day 1, free with pre-order, DLC. And lets be real here, these days its an excuse to not include a fully fleshed out game at launch. None other than Nintendo themselves have been guilty of this in recent years with stuff like Splatoon, Animal Crossing, Mario Maker, Mario Tennis, Arms and probably some others all being released only half-way done and then dribbing out the rest over time.

Animal Crossing, Mario Maker and Mario Tennis cases were more free content updates. I don't know about Animal Crossing, but Mario Maker (2 not sure about 1) and Tennis (superstars anyway) I would consider complete games with their updates just adding onto them. Plus they were free and you can't complain about free stuff.

 

[Massively Strong Greed]

Anyone know if the Yu-Gi-Oh Rush Duel game still has the English script on the Japanese cartridge? Importing is way cheaper than buying the English digital release.

 

[whatever I feel like]

Animal Crossing, Mario Maker and Mario Tennis cases were more free content updates. I don't know about Animal Crossing, but Mario Maker (2 not sure about 1) and Tennis (superstars anyway) I would consider complete games with their updates just adding onto them. Plus they were free and you can't complain about free stuff.

Sorry, I meant Mario Golf Aces, Tennis is fine.

 

[Jonah Hill poster]

It would be pretty nice if Banjo and Kazooie would have their own game on the Nintendo Switch. If Yoshi could have a knitting world based on his likeness and Toad become an Indiana Jones and turn into a treasure tracker, then I wish some studio could do the same for the bear and the bird.

Either that, or remaster Wario World for the Switch.

 

[whatever I feel like]

It would be pretty nice if Banjo and Kazooie would have their own game on the Nintendo Switch. If Yoshi could have a knitting world based on his likeness and Toad become an Indiana Jones and turn into a treasure tracker, then I wish some studio could do the same for the bear and the bird.

Either that, or remaster Wario World for the Switch.

B-K is owned by Microsoft. B-K has been owned for Microsoft for 19 years. B-K being owned by Microsoft is old enough to vote.