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Nintendo’s financial report included two more revelations: First, there are no plans to drop the Switch 1’s price, implying (to me) that Switch 2 will be $449 at least. Second, both Pokemon Legends Z-A and Metroid Prime 4 will be Switch 1 games (exclusivity/S2 enhancements are unknown) meaning we can expect Legends to run at a silky smooth 20 FPS with occasional spikes up to 30.
 
Two Dollars said:
First, there are no plans to drop the Switch 1’s price, implying (to me) that Switch 2 will be $449 at leas
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"hey what's a good way to sell our new console/handheld thingy?"

"Sell it for the same price as our massively failing competitors with their systems!"

"BRILLIANT!!!"
Two Dollars said:
we can expect Legends to run at a silky smooth 20 FPS with occasional spikes up to 30.
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Is that before or after the massive amount of bugs and graphical glitches?
 
Two Dollars said:
Nintendo’s financial report included two more revelations: First, there are no plans to drop the Switch 1’s price, implying (to me) that Switch 2 will be $449 at least. Second, both Pokemon Legends Z-A and Metroid Prime 4 will be Switch 1 games (exclusivity/S2 enhancements are unknown) meaning we can expect Legends to run at a silky smooth 20 FPS with occasional spikes up to 30.
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On one hand I think Nintendo wants a nice marketable number for the masses and $399 is going to be it. I don't think $449 is an option since breaking that $400 barrier might scare off some consumers, add to that a game plus taxes and suddenly it doesn't feel like an appealing deal (and we still don't know if Nintendo will hits us with $70 Switch 2 games right off the bat).

On the other hand the existence of the Steam Deck and other handhelds PCs might have changed consumer perception as to what these type of devices are priced regularly, the most basic Steam Deck is over $400 and the SteamOS powered Lenovo Legion Go S will be $500 and that is on the cheaper side of the spectrum, other devices go for $800+. Perhaps Nintendo is feeling particularly confident due to the success of the Switch and are seeing that some people are willing to pay more for hardware than in previous launch cycles. I hope to be wrong with this prediction but imagine Nintendo going so far as to sell the Switch 2 for $499 because they deem it worthy of that price tag. (Again I'm leaning more towards $399 and they'll just up the price of their games for that extra profit.)
 
Belvedere said:
On one hand I think Nintendo wants a nice marketable number for the masses and $399 is going to be it. I don't think $449 is an option since breaking that $400 barrier might scare off some consumers, add to that a game plus taxes and suddenly it doesn't feel like an appealing deal (and we still don't know if Nintendo will hits us with $70 Switch 2 games right off the bat).

On the other hand the existence of the Steam Deck and other handhelds PCs might have changed consumer perception as to what these type of devices are priced regularly, the most basic Steam Deck is over $400 and the SteamOS powered Lenovo Legion Go S will be $500 and that is on the cheaper side of the spectrum, other devices go for $800+. Perhaps Nintendo is feeling particularly confident due to the success of the Switch and are seeing that some people are willing to pay more for hardware than in previous launch cycles. I hope to be wrong with this prediction but imagine Nintendo going so far as to sell the Switch 2 for $499 because they deem it worthy of that price tag. (Again I'm leaning more towards $399 and they'll just up the price of their games for that extra profit.)
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They're going to 70 right at the start. You'd have to be delusional to think otherwise. TotK was the canary in the coalmine, they're done with 60 for big games and have wanted to move on from that for awhile now due to both increasing dev costs and inflation. I was hoping 400 for the price. Could be 450, I suppose. I won't be buying one until it has a game I really, really, reaalllly want anyways and since I don't care for Mario Kart that probably won't be launch day.
 
Two Dollars said:
First, there are no plans to drop the Switch 1’s price
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They're doing the Wii U thing again, and it's going to backfire. If it doesn't I'll be pleasantly surprised, but I am seriously not expecting any smart business moves here given how Nintendo seems to get when they're doing well (overconfident and expensive). Is this a Japanese thing? Sony pulled this kind of idiocy with the PS3 and 5 too. Curious

Two Dollars said:
both Pokemon Legends Z-A and Metroid Prime 4 will be Switch 1 games (exclusivity/S2 enhancements are unknown)
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I'm betting on Switch 1 exclusivity for Z-A with a compatibility patch for the S2 and a cross-gen launch for Prime 4. If Prime 4 doesn't have a Switch 2 version out on launch day, it's going to seriously hurt S2 sales right out of the gate, so I'm expecting Nintendo to at least have the singular brain cell required to release it on both platforms.

Even with Prime 4, I have a feeling that the Switch 2 isn't going to do anything for a long while unless it releases with a blockbuster line-up like Mario Kart 10, Prime 4, some Zelda thing and maybe a Pokémon game all at once. There are almost zero reasons to buy the thing just going off the design, normal people aren't going to care enough about specs to look past that, and the equivalent-or-higher price point is going to seriously turn people off given the state of the world's economies at the moment.
 
Belvedere said:
On one hand I think Nintendo wants a nice marketable number for the masses and $399 is going to be it. I don't think $449 is an option since breaking that $400 barrier might scare off some consumers, add to that a game plus taxes and suddenly it doesn't feel like an appealing deal (and we still don't know if Nintendo will hits us with $70 Switch 2 games right off the bat).

On the other hand the existence of the Steam Deck and other handhelds PCs might have changed consumer perception as to what these type of devices are priced regularly, the most basic Steam Deck is over $400 and the SteamOS powered Lenovo Legion Go S will be $500 and that is on the cheaper side of the spectrum, other devices go for $800+. Perhaps Nintendo is feeling particularly confident due to the success of the Switch and are seeing that some people are willing to pay more for hardware than in previous launch cycles. I hope to be wrong with this prediction but imagine Nintendo going so far as to sell the Switch 2 for $499 because they deem it worthy of that price tag. (Again I'm leaning more towards $399 and they'll just up the price of their games for that extra profit.)
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See, that's what I thought too, but I also can't imagine them launching a new console at only $50/14% more than what its predecessor costs at the time. Even if you convince yourself that comparing it to Switch OLED is a false equivalence and you need to compare to base Switch, that's still only $100/33% more.

(Also, the most basic Steam Deck is $399 and usually gets a 10-15% discount during major Steam sales. Which complicates things further, given that Nintendo always markets itself as the cheapest console for families.)
Anonitolia said:
They're doing the Wii U thing again, and it's going to backfire. If it doesn't I'll be pleasantly surprised, but I am seriously not expecting any smart business moves here given how Nintendo seems to get when they're doing well (overconfident and expensive). Is this a Japanese thing? Sony pulled this kind of idiocy with the PS3 and 5 too. Curious
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Even the Wii got multiple price cuts throughout its life, one of which was right before the Wii U's launch.
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Two Dollars said:
First, there are no plans to drop the Switch 1’s price, implying (to me) that Switch 2 will be $449 at least.
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There is no reason to make the switch more competitive to the switch 2 by dropping the price.
If the switch 2 is 399 and the Oled is 350, you’d be retarded to buy into the old model.

It’s not like they have trouble selling the things at full price anyway, unlike the Wii:

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It’ll have outsold the DS by the time the 2 launches.
 
Basic Blond Boy said:
Nintendo only did smartphone apps due to investor demands.

Apps were big in the early-mid 2010s, and Nintendo was struggling with the Wii U and 3DS. At first, they tried to do more app-like 3DS ware (Pokemon Trozie, Team Kirby Clash, etc..) before pivoting to phones for more sales for investors. The farther we got into the Switch, the more obvious it is that the apps had no purpose beyond short-term investor engagement. They slowed down significantly after the switch launch, with many going under. As of now, Dragalia Lost, Dr. Mario and Mittomo are dead, Mario Kart Tour, Animal Crossing, and Mario Run are dead beyond complete server closure, leaving only FE and Pikmin still active.

Given the switch's success, I doubt any more apps are in the pipeline.
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Funny you bring this up because they just announced "Animal Crossing: Pocket Camp Complete" which costs $20 without microtransactions and another year of updates. There's apparently a way to transfer saves within your phone before the old version poofs out of existence, but again, it's $20 for a game that might be completely gone in five years. I was thinking Pocket Camp Complete was some sort of Switch title that would transfer over the saves from.

Belvedere said:
On the other hand the existence of the Steam Deck and other handhelds PCs might have changed consumer perception as to what these type of devices are priced regularly, the most basic Steam Deck is over $400 and the SteamOS powered Lenovo Legion Go S will be $500 and that is on the cheaper side of the spectrum, other devices go for $800+. Perhaps Nintendo is feeling particularly confident due to the success of the Switch and are seeing that some people are willing to pay more for hardware than in previous launch cycles. I hope to be wrong with this prediction but imagine Nintendo going so far as to sell the Switch 2 for $499 because they deem it worthy of that price tag. (Again I'm leaning more towards $399 and they'll just up the price of their games for that extra profit.)
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I don't think Nintendo sees the Steam Deck as competition as it's rarely sold in brick-and-mortar stores, much less mass market retailers.
 
starborn427614 said:
Wario Land 4's coming to NSO next week.

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Sweet..... anywho....
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I think anyone who is even remotely questioning or paying attention can see some really bad economic shit coming our way. I don't have many incentives to penny up for a S2, other than Prime 4... if the economy goes 2008 on roids, are people really gonna shill out? I'm always surprised by consoomers so willing to part with their shekels, but I already hear people hurting now, more than in say, early 2007. I think Ninty is playing things so unbelievable safe for a good reason, not just to keep the boat steady, but because they and other industry vets know what the fuck is up and want a safe, mild-upgraded Switch 1.5 to sell for the next 5+ years to keep the wolves away.
 
Lone MacReady II said:
Sweet..... anywho....
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I think anyone who is even remotely questioning or paying attention can see some really bad economic shit coming our way. I don't have many incentives to penny up for a S2, other than Prime 4... if the economy goes 2008 on roids, are people really gonna shill out? I'm always surprised by consoomers so willing to part with their shekels, but I already hear people hurting now, more than in say, early 2007. I think Ninty is playing things so unbelievable safe for a good reason, not just to keep the boat steady, but because they and other industry vets know what the fuck is up and want a safe, mild-upgraded Switch 1.5 to sell for the next 5+ years to keep the wolves away.
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People bought PS3s for $599 US Dollars back when the dollar was worth something.

A $300 or $400 console is a LOT cheaper than say a car. And in a down economy perversely it's entertainment that tends to do well, people want a distraction from their problems.

But I can't see them getting away with making the cost of new games even more expensive.
 
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