Nintendo Fanbase Stupidity General - Rants on the explosive fanbase

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Does Nintendo have a bad fanbase

  • Yes

    Votes: 915 93.2%

  • No

    Votes: 67 6.8%
  • Total voters
    982
Judge Dredd said:
That's fair, and it certainly makes sense on paper.

I think the problem I have stems from me being done with the usual Nintendo sequels, and the new IPs don't interest me. Smash, Mario Kart, and the Zelda games do nothing for me. Nintendo has consistently shit the bed with Starfox and Metroid. Fire Emblem had those translation issues. Arms and Splatoon aren't interesting to me. Meanwhile, third party are generally sub par ports, or just shit.

That middle death might seem worse for me because I gave up. With the Wii I'd given up by the time Skyward Sword came out, and I done care for Zelda anyway. For the 3DS I had given up when they released the upgraded model and I read new games ran poorly on the old model. I never confirmed that because those games didn't interest me even if they ran perfectly well. (Again, more Zelda games)

The only late era 3DS game I wanted but never got was Metroid 2, though I was salty that Nintendo shut down a fan remake to make it happen. I still have the fan game downloaded somewhere.


Nintendo, unlike other companies, likes to make profit on hardware. They don't do the whole "loss leader" "let's make the money back on games" thing that other companies do. This has worked well for them since the GameBoy at least.

The 360 and PS3 were way more advanced than you'd expect at the time. The PS3 was notorious for being hard to work on, though I don't know how true that is. This also explains why PS4 and Xb1 were a minor upgrade.


I won't derail the thread, but scalpers and "the collectors market" could be the topic of their own thread, or at least a rant. Conflating a games rarity with the games quality. Driving up prices artificially. Putting "ultra RARE!!!" in every ebay listing.

This could easily be fixed if publishers did second print runs of niche games that sell well, and if they would re-release their old back catalogues like those old "Namco museum" or "Sega Mega Drive collection" packs they did back in the day.

I don't understand what the benefit is for publishers to enable scalpers. If Limited Run Games could sell 15,000 copies of a game, why only print 5,000 and have "collectors" and scalpers fight over them?
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Honestly, I do agree with the collectors market being absolute bullshit right now, but that's mostly because I cannot get a copy of any of the SMT games for the 3ds used. They're all either wayyyy overpriced or out of stock. It's fucking funny because I bet as soon as this coronavirus shit winds down, that shit goes back to being 20 bucks a pop used on amazon again.

Anyways, the used games market is a coin toss. I see shit like people trying to sell their copy of Pokemon Sun for 40 bucks when you can get it for 12, used and in box with manual/art.
 
If you're getting a first print version of one of the 3DS SMT games, a higher price is kind of justified. Those often came with extras like a soundtrack, guidebook, or those pins Apocalypse had. If it's anything after the first print, the price is bullshit. Strange Journey Redux is the only one that didn't come with an extra.
Judge Dredd said:
That's fair, and it certainly makes sense on paper.

I think the problem I have stems from me being done with the usual Nintendo sequels, and the new IPs don't interest me. Smash, Mario Kart, and the Zelda games do nothing for me. Nintendo has consistently shit the bed with Starfox and Metroid. Fire Emblem had those translation issues. Arms and Splatoon aren't interesting to me. Meanwhile, third party are generally sub par ports, or just shit.

That middle death might seem worse for me because I gave up. With the Wii I'd given up by the time Skyward Sword came out, and I done care for Zelda anyway. For the 3DS I had given up when they released the upgraded model and I read new games ran poorly on the old model. I never confirmed that because those games didn't interest me even if they ran perfectly well. (Again, more Zelda games)

The only late era 3DS game I wanted but never got was Metroid 2, though I was salty that Nintendo shut down a fan remake to make it happen. I still have the fan game downloaded somewhere.
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Don't have many problems with later 3DS games on my 2013 era XL aside from fps drops in Pokemon Sun. Those were mostly tolerable. The Luigi's Mansion remake runs fine.
 
Czargon the Red said:
I'd kill for Nintendo to bring back Excitebots and Excitetruck tbh. Grew up with those on the wii and logged more hours in Excitebots than I did Mariokart wii.
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They'd need to find a new dev. The studio that made the Wii games for them signed an exclusivity deal with NASCAR and has been solely making those games ever since (because they sell way better.)


As to the collector's market, yeah it shot up due to covid. But for all of the people complaining about high prices, specifically for Nintendo first party stuff, bear this in mind. Most of those games, when they go into a retro store and are marked at those prices will sell within a week or two. Most third party stuff will sit, sometimes for months or a year or more. If anything, physical stores should probably be charging above ebay for those types of impulse buys. I've slowly stopped retro game hunting anyway, scalpers destroyed all fun value. Left bids at auctions that are only ten dollars below ebay value, calling every yard sale in town the night before to pre-buy and then showing up at 6 in the morning to go through all of them (same for flea markets.) The thrill of the hunt is gone, I admit it you fuckers, you beat me, I lost.
 
Judge Dredd said:
Nintendo has consistently shit the bed with Starfox and Metroid.
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Star Fox and Metroid are weird, they are the sort of games that the Japanese devs should not be working on.

Retro did a fantastic job with Metroid when they created the Prime series. They made 4 great games in a row and brought Metroid back after Nintendo neglected it for years. After Prime 3, I think they deserved a break from the series and am happy that they moved onto Donkey Kong, a series with more similarities to Metroid than most people believe. Prior to Returns, DK was just a gimmick character and most of his world and cast got killed off as the Mario series slowly engulfed it. I am glad Retro gave him his own identity again, and even streamlined the cast to the most important players. I just wish a 3rd game happened so they can round out the trilogy, maybe bring K Rool back for a final showdown as the SnowMads felt like Retro adding character to their enemies to prepare for him. It would have also been nice for one more kong to appear, probably Tiny.

As of now it seems that Retro is back on Metroid. I wish Nintendo would invest more into the small studio as they are great at giving their lost franchises life.

On the topic of Star Fox, apparently Retro may have been working on a new entry prior to Prime 4. It was said that they wanted to make Star Fox into somewhat of a Diddy Kong Racing styled racer. I am honestly curious how that would work. It sounds good and I know Retro is talented enough to make it good. I hope we one day get to see it and have Retro take over Star Fox in addition to Donkey Kong and Metroid.

Also, if you are looking for a modern, good Star Fox game, than it sounds like StarLink is your best bet. The game is pretty much an open world space shooter and they included Star Fox in the Switch version.

Czargon the Red said:
I mean Mariokart, Sonic Kart, and Crash Kart are the only kart racers worthwhile rn. There's some other standard racers on the switch iirc like Horizon Zero Turbo (It's cheap as shit when there's a sale and has content) and Burnout.
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I would agree, but it would be a little hypocritical as I am most likely going to buy Nickelodeon Kart Racers 2 this fall. It looks decent and it is nice that we get SpongeBob, Avatar, and Invader Zim characters playable. I just hope the game gets DLC, the absence of Jimmy Neutron is felt, and I would like to see Fairly Odd Parents, but that series apparently has legal issues that lock it to solely America. Also Zuko, Mr. Krabs, and Dib would be cool, just saying.

Judge Dredd said:
I don't understand what the benefit is for publishers to enable scalpers. If Limited Run Games could sell 15,000 copies of a game, why only print 5,000 and have "collectors" and scalpers fight over them?
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I remember this with Amiibo.
It is beneficial as it guarantees purchases. People have no time to think as at any moment that rare figure or whatever could be gone and you are stuck paying more. The system encourages impulse buying which is great for companies as they see faster returns.

Aberforth said:
Don't have many problems with later 3DS games on my 2013 era XL aside from fps drops in Pokemon Sun. Those were mostly tolerable. The Luigi's Mansion remake runs fine.
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The New 3DS was really only used for Xenoblade and Warriors titles. Otherwise, it was pointless.
 
LR has a reputation for undersupplying but it probably isn't deserved. A lot of their games can be had second hand for below MSRP, meaning that they either guessed demand accurately or over-estimated.

And if the cost is still too much... you can always buy digital. There's a reason I broke my "physical if possible" rule for Stardew Valley.
 
For old times sake, may as well post this 03bgood classic
As well as a Clay Claymore video going more into the subject

Does anyone know where to find his video where he makes a super racist Nintendo Direct? I swear he had a video where he pretended to be Iwata and put on a stereotypical Asian impression and went “We at Nintendo are looking to update the virtual console.”

What is with some fans and virtual console? Just play the original system as they clearly have these games already. It makes no sense why they would buy an entirely new console just to play old games they already have.
 
-4ZURE- said:
For old times sake, may as well post this 03bgood classic
https://youtube.com/watch?v=hGR8Cki2OYgAs well as a Clay Claymore video going more into the subject
https://youtube.com/watch?v=ZPik5QrLOFw
Does anyone know where to find his video where he makes a super racist Nintendo Direct? I swear he had a video where he pretended to be Iwata and put on a stereotypical Asian impression and went “We at Nintendo are looking to update the virtual console.”

What is with some fans and virtual console? Just play the original system as they clearly have these games already. It makes no sense why they would buy an entirely new console just to play old games they already have.
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I think an argument could be made for accessibility, although I guess if you wanted to, you could just hook up your TV/whatever to your PC and run an emulator with a gamepad? I think it's dumb as shit if Nintendo makes people re-buy virtual console stuff every generation tho.
 
whatever I feel like said:
LR has a reputation for undersupplying but it probably isn't deserved. A lot of their games can be had second hand for below MSRP, meaning that they either guessed demand accurately or over-estimated.
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In the age of crowd funding and pre-orders, there's no need to guess how popular a game will be. Put up a kickstarter, print slightly more than the number of people who pre-ordered.

I don't know if it's still the case that games are limited to one per person, chosen via lottery, leading to people using stupid work arounds to get multiple chances at the games. I remember that being standard practice, and I ignored the company ever since.
 
Judge Dredd said:
In the age of crowd funding and pre-orders, there's no need to guess how popular a game will be. Put up a kickstarter, print slightly more than the number of people who pre-ordered.

I don't know if it's still the case that games are limited to one per person, chosen via lottery, leading to people using stupid work arounds to get multiple chances at the games. I remember that being standard practice, and I ignored the company ever since.
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They've gotten better at it, their preorder windows are now months long in most instances. It's rare to have something sell out near instantly.

The real negative part is the shipping, you better tack on an extra 5-15 dollars depending on what you order. oversized shit can run you 30 bucks or more, especially if it's heavy.
 
I mostly just play games quietly and make lighthearted fan art, I'm glad I stopped playing Smash bros tbh. And I haven't seem the recent direct either keep in mind.
 
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Aberforth said:
If you're getting a first print version of one of the 3DS SMT games, a higher price is kind of justified. Those often came with extras like a soundtrack, guidebook, or those pins Apocalypse had. If it's anything after the first print, the price is bullshit. Strange Journey Redux is the only one that didn't come with an extra.

Don't have many problems with later 3DS games on my 2013 era XL aside from fps drops in Pokemon Sun. Those were mostly tolerable. The Luigi's Mansion remake runs fine.
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No no I just want a physical copy of them. FFS.

I can pick up the extras individually on ebay or sth for a lot cheaper if I really wanted to. This is all bullshit.

Meanwhile, Project X Zone's limited first print version was sth I picked up for 25 bucks on amazon, unsealed. I also got the sequel in case for like 20 bucks. Codename Steam was begotten from a gamestop for like 3 bucks, sealed.
 
Czargon the Red said:
No no I just want a physical copy of them. FFS.

I can pick up the extras individually on ebay or sth for a lot cheaper if I really wanted to. This is all bullshit.

Meanwhile, Project X Zone's limited first print version was sth I picked up for 25 bucks on amazon, unsealed. I also got the sequel in case for like 20 bucks. Codename Steam was begotten from a gamestop for like 3 bucks, sealed.
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Speaking of Codename Steam, have you ever wondered if they'll be an sequel? Considering that I still see unsold copies in Wal-Mart?
 
NerdShamer said:
Speaking of Codename Steam, have you ever wondered if they'll be an sequel? Considering that I still see unsold copies in Wal-Mart?
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they tried to push the game with Amiibo support and it still didn't do well. I think it's due to shit marketing.

Buy a copy, it's like 5 bucks for a decent game. It's basically the league of extraordinary gentlemen as a Teen Rated SRPG. If you have a fire emblem amiibo character, you can scan them into the game.

I think it's a candidate for a cult classic in a decade or so.
 
Czargon the Red said:
they tried to push the game with Amiibo support and it still didn't do well. I think it's due to shit marketing.

Buy a copy, it's like 5 bucks for a decent game. It's basically the league of extraordinary gentlemen as a Teen Rated SRPG. If you have a fire emblem amiibo character, you can scan them into the game.

I think it's a candidate for a cult classic in a decade or so.
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Well, it tanked in Japan, which is usually a profit, if that's any indicator.
 
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