Nintendo Fanbase Stupidity General - Rants on the explosive fanbase

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Does Nintendo have a bad fanbase

  • Yes

    Votes: 915 93.2%
  • No

    Votes: 67 6.8%

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I am going to be honest. I believe Star Fox could be more than an arcade shooter if Nintendo wanted. The idea of an open space title, like Star Link presumably is, could do wonders for the franchise. Being able to fly planet to planet and get into dog fights in areas would be a fun and reasonable evolution.

It would also allow Kid Icarus to spread its wings more as the Nintendo on-rails-shooter, you know, if Sakurai can ever be relinquished from Smash hell I suppose.
I recognize your point, but I don't agree and would switch the games. Star Fox did a mostly-on-rails shooter very well. The series has struggled every time they have moved away from what worked. And I don't think they ever fully realized the depth of their original Star Fox formula anyway. There is a ton you could do with the branching design of the campaign map and hidden treasures along the way. And the special vehicles (the ones that don't suck) are also a ton of fun when used sparingly. My favorite level is a fucking Landmaster level, go figure. And the walkers were pretty neat in SF2.

Since you brought up Kid Icarus, that would be an excellent series to try something bigger with. People like Ike (hehe), but his games are not marquee titles like Mario and Zelda. They could try a lot more things with that series and be successful than I think they could with the Star Fox series. If only because there aren't as many Kid Icarus fans (yes I know you're out there) so there aren't going to be as many people demanding the game stay true to its NES roots. The DS game was also good. Saving villages and flying around a giant world as an angelic warrior with a magic bow would be pretty neat though. You could include some Uprising-like moments and get nostalgic with some goofy mock 2D screens with warping edge mechanics. That series has a lot of potential for something bigger.

I think my main issue is that we know what works with Star Fox and there has been a lot of what does not work. The series should be set right with a good, traditional Star Fox game that capitalizes on what the ailing series used to do very, very well. Now is not the time to try to expand Star Fox into broader territory again.

Also I played Star Link... it was very okay. I wish they had never included Star Fox in it though. By putting Star Fox into Star Link they made me want the game to be like Star Fox, which it was not. And it impeded my ability to enjoy Star Link for what it was, which was a pretty okay console space shooty thing.
 
I recognize your point, but I don't agree and would switch the games. Star Fox did a mostly-on-rails shooter very well. The series has struggled every time they have moved away from what worked. And I don't think they ever fully realized the depth of their original Star Fox formula anyway. There is a ton you could do with the branching design of the campaign map and hidden treasures along the way. And the special vehicles (the ones that don't suck) are also a ton of fun when used sparingly. My favorite level is a fucking Landmaster level, go figure. And the walkers were pretty neat in SF2.

Since you brought up Kid Icarus, that would be an excellent series to try something bigger with. People like Ike (hehe), but his games are not marquee titles like Mario and Zelda. They could try a lot more things with that series and be successful than I think they could with the Star Fox series. If only because there aren't as many Kid Icarus fans (yes I know you're out there) so there aren't going to be as many people demanding the game stay true to its NES roots. The DS game was also good. Saving villages and flying around a giant world as an angelic warrior with a magic bow would be pretty neat though. You could include some Uprising-like moments and get nostalgic with some goofy mock 2D screens with warping edge mechanics. That series has a lot of potential for something bigger.

I think my main issue is that we know what works with Star Fox and there has been a lot of what does not work. The series should be set right with a good, traditional Star Fox game that capitalizes on what the ailing series used to do very, very well. Now is not the time to try to expand Star Fox into broader territory again.

Also I played Star Link... it was very okay. I wish they had never included Star Fox in it though. By putting Star Fox into Star Link they made me want the game to be like Star Fox, which it was not. And it impeded my ability to enjoy Star Link for what it was, which was a pretty okay console space shooty thing.
Another Kid Icarus game with Pit would be dope.
 
Konami because Castlevania yes.
Mercury Steam is the company that made Samus Returns on 3DS, before that they made Castlevania titles. They made the 2010 and 2014 Lords of Shadows titles.
Trusting either fully is something I'm not exactly fond of. Mercury Steam made Samus Returns but they also made shit like aformentioned the LoS series which were god awful. While konami themselves would make it a mobile game.
Another Kid Icarus game with Pit would be dope.
I don't know KI:U already felt like it had 3 games of content worth of stuff, I'm pretty content with waiting 30 years for another one.
 
Trusting either fully is something I'm not exactly fond of. Mercury Steam made Samus Returns but they also made shit like aformentioned the LoS series which were god awful. While konami themselves would make it a mobile game.

I don't know KI:U already felt like it had 3 games of content worth of stuff, I'm pretty content with waiting 30 years for another one.
hey now, KI:U being remastered for the switch would just give us a definitive edition everyone'd enjoy.
 
hey now, KI:U being remastered for the switch would just give us a definitive edition everyone'd enjoy.
I know it'd be a yet another port on the Switch but honestly, Uprising would have the most to gain. Better graphics (as nice as the game looks on its own merits, I'd love to see it in HD with less, blockyness), actually good controls that don't leave your hands with suicidal thoughts and a chance to make the multiplayer a much bigger thing. Seriously, that was my shit when it first came out. Loved to spam Transparency, hunt down opponents, and slice them to pieces with my choice weapon in Claws before they could even blink.
 
I know it'd be a yet another port on the Switch but honestly, Uprising would have the most to gain. Better graphics (as nice as the game looks on its own merits, I'd love to see it in HD with less, blockyness), actually good controls that don't leave your hands with suicidal thoughts and a chance to make the multiplayer a much bigger thing. Seriously, that was my shit when it first came out. Loved to spam Transparency, hunt down opponents, and slice them to pieces with my choice weapon in Claws before they could even blink.
it would probably need a full graphical overhaul at the very least, along with a controls overhaul. However, it'd probably sell fairly well.
 
I know what goes on with the rest but what's been happening with Splatoon? The most I've heard is troons/politics leeching into the plaza posts on occasion and the usual competitive spergery.
Splatoon is starting to get a bunch of obnoxious contrarians because of 2. They either have the Switch hate cult that say Nintendo is being unreasonable about charging $20 for DLC because the single player was bad I guess. The single player was fine and completely serviceable but I guess Nintendo did not blow these losers expectations out of the water, so they believe Nintendo’s DLC practices are scummy. They also hate all the mechanics brought back from Splatoon one, like the updates and stage rotation. I can kinda see the later point, but it hardly is a deal breaker.

There are also people like the previously mentioned JebTube who hate it because some mechanics like that one Giant Squid power up are missing. It feels like a lot of divides for the sake of divides to be honest.

At this point I kinda want the retards in the Smash Community to get their wish and for Smash Ult to die, and for there to never be another Smash game ever again so the whole groomer ring can gather around for some Melee. Fuckin' hell.
I just want a new direction for Smash. I would love for a reboot that brings down the character amount and updates movesets. Maybe without the bazillion characters and 3rd party the Smash community can finally take a chill pill.

Sakurai's a passionate dude, and you can tell he loves what he does. Everything he touches, he gives it the utmost care he can. That passion and love would be better used on franchises that need it, especially Kid Icarus.
Sakurai is great, but I honestly kinda want him off Smash, for his and that franchise’s sake. I think he has more potential elsewhere, yet Nintendo keeps locking him down for Smash. As for Smash, many of Sakurai’s biases and designs are slowing becoming more apparent. Other than the obvious FE stuff, I think more should talk about how Kirby has been primarily stuck in the 90s forever now, or how Donkey Kong gets the bare minimum and likely would have never gotten a third character had fans not rallied behind K Rool.
 
Splatoon is starting to get a bunch of obnoxious contrarians because of 2. They either have the Switch hate cult that say Nintendo is being unreasonable about charging $20 for DLC because the single player was bad I guess. The single player was fine and completely serviceable but I guess Nintendo did not blow these losers expectations out of the water, so they believe Nintendo’s DLC practices are scummy. They also hate all the mechanics brought back from Splatoon one, like the updates and stage rotation. I can kinda see the later point, but it hardly is a deal breaker.

There are also people like the previously mentioned JebTube who hate it because some mechanics like that one Giant Squid power up are missing. It feels like a lot of divides for the sake of divides to be honest.


I just want a new direction for Smash. I would love for a reboot that brings down the character amount and updates movesets. Maybe without the bazillion characters and 3rd party the Smash community can finally take a chill pill.


Sakurai is great, but I honestly kinda want him off Smash, for his and that franchise’s sake. I think he has more potential elsewhere, yet Nintendo keeps locking him down for Smash. As for Smash, many of Sakurai’s biases and designs are slowing becoming more apparent. Other than the obvious FE stuff, I think more should talk about how Kirby has been primarily stuck in the 90s forever now, or how Donkey Kong gets the bare minimum and likely would have never gotten a third character had fans not rallied behind K Rool.

I absolutely agree that we at least need a new Donkey Kong Country, and Sakurai himself at the very least likes it. Hell, if they want Sakurai on a fighting game so bad, he loves Fire Emblem. Get Intsys on the line, get a Fire Emblem fighting game out of the door or something like that. Get him on Kirby and let him do work. Get him anywhere but on Smash. I don't think Smash needs a reinvention, I think it needs age. People bitched about melee, people bitched about Brawl, people bitched about 4, and now you barely hear bitching about any of them b/c Ultimate is so bad. Give Smash time to marinate after this retarded-ass fighter pass and move Sakurai to projects that don't pander to the coomer groomers
 
Splatoon is starting to get a bunch of obnoxious contrarians because of 2. They either have the Switch hate cult that say Nintendo is being unreasonable about charging $20 for DLC because the single player was bad I guess. The single player was fine and completely serviceable but I guess Nintendo did not blow these losers expectations out of the water, so they believe Nintendo’s DLC practices are scummy. They also hate all the mechanics brought back from Splatoon one, like the updates and stage rotation. I can kinda see the later point, but it hardly is a deal breaker.

There are also people like the previously mentioned JebTube who hate it because some mechanics like that one Giant Squid power up are missing. It feels like a lot of divides for the sake of divides to be honest.


I just want a new direction for Smash. I would love for a reboot that brings down the character amount and updates movesets. Maybe without the bazillion characters and 3rd party the Smash community can finally take a chill pill.


Sakurai is great, but I honestly kinda want him off Smash, for his and that franchise’s sake. I think he has more potential elsewhere, yet Nintendo keeps locking him down for Smash. As for Smash, many of Sakurai’s biases and designs are slowing becoming more apparent. Other than the obvious FE stuff, I think more should talk about how Kirby has been primarily stuck in the 90s forever now, or how Donkey Kong gets the bare minimum and likely would have never gotten a third character had fans not rallied behind K Rool.

We need a 3-d kirby game at this point.


I absolutely agree that we at least need a new Donkey Kong Country, and Sakurai himself at the very least likes it. Hell, if they want Sakurai on a fighting game so bad, he loves Fire Emblem. Get Intsys on the line, get a Fire Emblem fighting game out of the door or something like that. Get him on Kirby and let him do work. Get him anywhere but on Smash. I don't think Smash needs a reinvention, I think it needs age. People bitched about melee, people bitched about Brawl, people bitched about 4, and now you barely hear bitching about any of them b/c Ultimate is so bad. Give Smash time to marinate after this retarded-ass fighter pass and move Sakurai to projects that don't pander to the coomer groomers

Sakurai needs to just be a general director for games during their early-mid stage development.
 
I think that's been the main thing with Smash, it's been going, non-stop, since 2014 (even earlier than that if you factor in the usual pre-release hype/speculation cycle) and hasn't had the chance for a "break" between games like 64 through Brawl have. It was Smash 4, then DLC, then Ultimate, and now Ultimate's seemingly never-ending DLC all right after the other for 6 uninterrupted years. Not too dissimilar with Pokemon's constant output where it feels like there's never any time to just let shit simmer and die down between releases anymore.
 
I wish we'd just get a HD port/expansion of Kid Icarus : Uprising. I'd love to play that game in some way that doesn't cause me physical pain after an hour.
 
Why is Nintendo's fandom is more autistic than Sony or Xbox?
Yes and No, you see Nintendo has a larger amount of people that played their games in many instances, so their numbers in general are larger. though if we somehow had a way to calculate a percentage of fans that were autistic it would probably even out mostly anyway.
 
Yes and No, you see Nintendo has a larger amount of people that played their games in many instances, so their numbers in general are larger. though if we somehow had a way to calculate a percentage of fans that were autistic it would probably even out mostly anyway.

Nintendo is also the first system kids play due to being mostly family friendly library. Autistics that age would latched on Nintendo like they do with Sonic.
 
Why is Nintendo's fandom is more autistic than Sony or Xbox?
Cartoony art style, autists holding onto their childhood too long, Xbox in particular having nothing to appeal to autists (or anyone else for that matter) and the Thomas the Tank Engine effect of their games having similar (but different) characters in similar situations each time.
 
Why is Nintendo's fandom is more autistic than Sony or Xbox?
There are multiple factors.

Nintendo being the oldest console manufacturer, outside of Atari and the few that came before that, is a factor. They have that Disney, we were the first to make a medium big history behind them, so many obsessed with gaming are going to be very focused on Nintendo, like how many for animation are focused on Disney.

The second would be console elitism which was provoked by the Sega and Nintendo console wars of the 90s. Many who played Nintendo had to justify it at the playground or lunch because of Sega, instilling a brand worship. This is in all parts of media though, brands hold power.

The third reason is nostalgia. This mostly pertains to the 20-30 community. Many are nostalgic for their days as a kid, and Nintendo used to be their escapism. Where this gets bad is when the person in question is unable to move on from the past. This is why you have many 80s kids who are now consoomers for brands like Star Wars or Marvel. Nintendo fits that bill of being an old property that many built childhoods around, so many cannot move on.

The lack of diversity also plays a role. By the N64, Nintendo lost almost all 3rd party support, so users of the consoles were stuck with Nintendo exclusively. Now they have a distaste for 3rd party as they have been conditioned into only liking Nintendo. Nintendo’s shift also plays a key role, the rise of Xenoblade and Fire Emblem, and the fall of Star Fox and F-Zero between the GameCube and now has set many fans off as they cannot handle a change in attitude or priority. This is why so many hate anime, it was never a big thing on GameCube, but now it is, and they want Nintendo to go back to cartoons.

Pokemon is a big factor. It is the largest franchise in the world and the bright colors and monsters captivate many on the spectrum. Most autistic seem very big on Sonic and Pokémon and I feel like you will always come across one if not both when speaking to them.

I think the final is justification for liking a children’s brand. Thanks to the Wii and Call of Duty, Nintendo was outcasted for awhile as the kid company. Nintendo fans had and probably still have a hard time coping, so they need Nintendo to be “adult”. They kill most of the creativity as they want Nintendo to be big in the general gaming public because at one point they were not seen as hard core.

Basically nostalgia, insecurity, brand elitism, lack of diversity, and autism have been the biggest plagues on the community.
 
Around the time of Fire Emblem Fates, I saw Nintendo fans use the term "Censorshitters" to refer to anyone complaining about censorship or unnecessary edits. In their minds, anyone claiming to care about censorship was a hater who was never going to buy the game and just wanted a reason to smear Nintendo.

I did a search for the term and this was the second result.


Doesn't mention what those reasons are.

As a bonus. According to the author, Resident Evil 4 is pro-Trump propaganda because your save the president's daughter from Mexicans.
Spain. The game takes place in Spain.
You'd think the 14th Century castle and gloomy weather would have tipped them off.
 
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