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All I know is I miss the days of the 2000's when I'd check the Portal daily and enjoy all the cool games and animations. I still occasionally watch/play those old things. For whatever reason, I occasionally think about LegendaryFrog and Waterman. Whatever happened to those guys?
 
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Totally normal webmaster.
Doesn't eat children.
Will get along with you
as long as you
are not a
creep.

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To be completely fair, he has outlived Moot and Lowtax and wasn't one of the SA troop that flung themselves so far out there that they burned up with the sun.
 
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Metamorpho said:
It's a shame he suffers from troll's remorse though.
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He himself said he had a little darkside. I do kinda sense that reading his older posts. Trolls can break people. One of the redeeming qualities that separates a monster from a human being is to recognize when you have gone too far is to drop the ruse and say "I'm sorry."

That's not to say you can't have fun every now and again. That's life. That's normal. Just in small doses. Just don't let darkness consume you completely.
 
Cups2Cups said:
To be completely fair, he has outlived Moot and Lowtax and wasn't one of the SA troop that flung themselves so far out there that they burned up with the sun.
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maybe it helps that the hardass jannying towards users was offloaded to his brother wade aka "wadolf" as he was known back then
 
I don't salute Tom's "times are different now" discourse in any way. It's boomer/gen-x housing discourse embodied as a website with the added indignation that (to extend the analogy) the boomer/gen-x-er will tell you to your face that housing should never have been that cheap in the first place and that they regret buying (but no, they won't be moving out).

All of Tom and friends edge content being "grandfathered in" is great for cultural preservation but casts a ladder-pulling stink over the whole website. To see Tom, a man who's profile--to this day--has a link to a lovingly rendered animation he did of an underage middle school girl fellating a handgun before it blows her brains out and who's Tankmen series is just "homophobia: that's the joke!" to see him have the nerve to ban some kid just getting started for using the word 'faggot' is infuriating.

In his own way, Tom is the saddest boy in his class. Moot sold out but got the money. Tom turned down a multiple million dollar deal only to slowly gentrify the site himself anyway. Now the site is both perpetually broke *and* would not publish Tom's foundational work if it came out today. 10/10 Tom, you picked the outcome that combined the worst of every scenario sacrificing both your dignity and the square footage of your house. Generational fumble.
 
nashicab said:
I don't salute Tom's "times are different now" discourse in any way. It's boomer/gen-x housing discourse embodied as a website with the added indignation that (to extend the analogy) the boomer/gen-x-er will tell you to your face that housing should never have been that cheap in the first place and that they regret buying (but no, they won't be moving out).

All of Tom and friends edge content being "grandfathered in" is great for cultural preservation but casts a ladder-pulling stink over the whole website. To see Tom, a man who's profile--to this day--has a link to a lovingly rendered animation he did of an underage middle school girl fellating a handgun before it blows her brains out and who's Tankmen series is just "homophobia: that's the joke!" to see him have the nerve to ban some kid just getting started for using the word 'faggot' is infuriating.

In his own way, Tom is the saddest boy in his class. Moot sold out but got the money. Tom turned down a multiple million dollar deal only to slowly gentrify the site himself anyway. Now the site is both perpetually broke *and* would not publish Tom's foundational work if it came out today. 10/10 Tom, you picked the outcome that combined the worst of every scenario sacrificing both your dignity and the square footage of your house. Generational fumble.
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I think he genuinely loves his website-- for better or for worst-- and there is nothing wrong with that. He is a family man now and so are some of the Mods that have been with him through the years and perhaps just doesn't want site to go the way all the other "Entertainment" websites have gone and have edgy assholes ruin it or become what Facebook, Reddit, and Youtube did. Seems at the moment the site itself is not doing well financially, especially in the face of rising upkeep of hardware because of A.I. and stupid laws being passed thats forcing users to verify themselves.

I sincerely hope that his "Nightmare Cops" game that he has been working on since forever is successful, and keeps the lights on just a bit longer. My little black heart though yearns for a new animation and creative-like website-- and I wish I could build something that could match NewGround's splendor of its golden years and the freedom KF gives its users-- without the youtube-esk policies... one day we will have it but now is not the time.
 
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nashicab said:
I don't salute Tom's "times are different now" discourse in any way. It's boomer/gen-x housing discourse embodied as a website with the added indignation that (to extend the analogy) the boomer/gen-x-er will tell you to your face that housing should never have been that cheap in the first place and that they regret buying (but no, they won't be moving out).

All of Tom and friends edge content being "grandfathered in" is great for cultural preservation but casts a ladder-pulling stink over the whole website. To see Tom, a man who's profile--to this day--has a link to a lovingly rendered animation he did of an underage middle school girl fellating a handgun before it blows her brains out and who's Tankmen series is just "homophobia: that's the joke!" to see him have the nerve to ban some kid just getting started for using the word 'faggot' is infuriating.

In his own way, Tom is the saddest boy in his class. Moot sold out but got the money. Tom turned down a multiple million dollar deal only to slowly gentrify the site himself anyway. Now the site is both perpetually broke *and* would not publish Tom's foundational work if it came out today. 10/10 Tom, you picked the outcome that combined the worst of every scenario sacrificing both your dignity and the square footage of your house. Generational fumble.
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Allowing the kid to say "faggot" wouldn't have saved Newgrounds. It's dead cause there's no reason to post there anymore.
You wanna make a game? You have less limiting platforms than web and more lucrative stores like Steam.
You wanna make an animation? You have Youtube for that.
Music? Soundcloud and Bandcamp.
Ok, it's good for art, I guess, cause DA is drowning in AI crap, Art Station is for pros, and ordinary social networks like Instagram and Twitter are not well-suited for artists.
 
Whatevermancer said:
Allowing the kid to say "faggot" wouldn't have saved Newgrounds. It's dead cause there's no reason to post there anymore.
You wanna make a game? You have less limiting platforms than web and more lucrative stores like Steam.
You wanna make an animation? You have Youtube for that.
Music? Soundcloud and Bandcamp.
Ok, it's good for art, I guess, cause DA is drowning in AI crap, Art Station is for pros, and ordinary social networks like Instagram and Twitter are not well-suited for artists.
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I will give this criticism: It's my opinion that he is allowing "limited" AI in animation and games. Not sure if its strike a balance with the foaming at the mouth pro-AI resident programmers there who already can code in their sleep and could fuck the website at any moment if they wanted to. I find that unappealing because it takes away the learning process, creative thinking, and cognitive abilities that all men beginning in their creative endeavor should have.*

*yes i know that ai can do some coding tasks that are trival and save time but this doesn't help those beginning to learn programming, its a crutch, and oldbies I've talked to can't seem to understand that.
 
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Cups2Cups said:
I will give this criticism: It's my opinion that he is allowing "limited" AI in animation and games. Not sure if its strike a balance with the foaming at the mouth pro-AI resident programmers there who already can code in their sleep and could fuck the website at any moment if they wanted to. I find that unappealing because it takes away the learning process, creative thinking, and cognitive abilities that all men beginning in their creative endeavor should have.*

*yes i know that ai can do some coding tasks that are trival and save time but this doesn't help those beginning to learn programming, its a crutch, and oldbies I've talked to can't seem to understand that.
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Whatevermancer said:
Allowing the kid to say "faggot" wouldn't have saved Newgrounds. It's dead cause there's no reason to post there anymore.
You wanna make a game? You have less limiting platforms than web and more lucrative stores like Steam.
You wanna make an animation? You have Youtube for that.
Music? Soundcloud and Bandcamp.
Ok, it's good for art, I guess, cause DA is drowning in AI crap, Art Station is for pros, and ordinary social networks like Instagram and Twitter are not well-suited for artists.
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The family man comment kind of makes my point for me though. If being a father opened Tom's eyes and he now thought kids hearing the word 'faggot' was truly harmful, he'd scrub his site of his own content using the word or work with archive.org (who are already heavily tied to Ruffle) to put it in a seperate (and more permanent) archive. The fact that he doesn't suggest that the "family man" part is about having more to lose than any core change in his values, that he now has kids to threaten instead of an enlightenment from having had kids. He once stuck his neck out for other artist and not just himself, now he doesn't.

The same with the idea that a kid saying "faggot" won't save the website. We can agree or disagree if NG would be better off with a return to form but most certainly the banned kid and the development of his work would be better off not -ya' know- being banned.

I mean I get it, Tom has now "made it" and doesn't have to rely on edge to get people interested and he has more at risk to edge going badly. That's purely selfish calculus though. I don't condemn it, but I don't get praising him for it.
 
You just know that this retard's never watched an NFL game prior to the 2026 Superbowl just like with 95% of the people who heavily shilled Bad Bunny's performance.

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Tom's latest post puts a pin in much of what I was trying to convey. It's Tom raining on his own Pico Day parade:

"I do think I will continue to feel uneasy about it, though. It’s a bittersweet dichotomy; enjoying and featuring the fan art, while feeling kinda sad too."

"I feel bad even acknowledging these feelings on a special day filled with amazing Pico art"

He's sad about Pico. Not sad enough not to approve new plushies to promote the new documentary, of course, but very very sad. The promo art of said documentary is a portrait of Pico, but his interview will contain Tom's "conflicted thoughts" about him. It sounds like a guy telling a girl he wants to fuck all of her and not just her body or worse an OF model trying to make it deeper than just shaking her tits. I know Tom has been a bit depressed in recent years (Takeover Tuesday was originally supposed to be something crazy like the site not operating on Mondays to show people "what they'd lose without Newgrounds") but good god. From edge lord to cringe lord in very few steps.

Despite everything Tom is actually pretty normal and I think he's a good case for how the cultural environment of the last quarter century has turned people against themselves and pretty much destroyed their resilience and mental health.
 
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