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That was a decent night. Gator Bait was unironically a good movie and Tank Girl felt strangely ahead of it's time. The main character felt like a less obnoxious version of 2010s Harley Quin mixed with Ed from Cowboy Bebop. The plot was a parody of and improvement of Furry Road with the Girls und Panzer schtick. It had those Scott Pilgrim comic vignettes way before that film. It had those Kangaroo Jack meets Cats the Musical looking characters. And the writing predicted post irony bro writing. It would have been right at home with tumbler userbase had it came out 20 years later.
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tank girl is really not a bad movie. it's just a product of the time, budget, and social climate. Think about other movies coming out at the time and the type of movie it was. As someone in chat said (I believe @Hatoful Dandy) it came out the same weekend as Tommy Boy and people were buying tickets to that to see tank girl since it caught an R and Tommy Boy didn't. It was also a legit comic book movie well before the comic book movie craze, and a more obscure, somewhat independent comic (started in some British magazine, got a solo run after that with penguin) and it was really not something a normie would've been into.
Something interesting from the wiki:
This to me is the definition of a trailblazer. It's not a comic that traditionally would've gotten a feature length film for an anthology of reasons... and yet it did.
I'm trying to think of an equivalent off the top of my head and the only thing I could think of is Big Rock Candy Mountain getting a film. (Side note the one time I walked into a comic book store and bought something the owner pushed this series and another one on me because i said i wasn't interested in super hero comics but wanted to get a comic. it was so painfully bad i never went back and didn't even read the other series he suggested to me out of fear that it would make me think i wasted 30 bucks that day instead of 15. I've included one of the most ridiculous panels below) Just the idea that something off beat gets a chance despite it not being something that the average normie, let alone comic reader, is going to be into.
The Klanimal is immediately murdered by a black man while the tournament announcer (I believe a big bootied black woman) says "the tournament hasn't started yet but I'll allow that because fuck racism."
The movie is a fairly faithful adaptation for what tank girl was. There wasn't much of an overarching story and it was more individual stories per release, so the plot we see is fairly original. You can tell that everyone working on it felt like they were working on something good and really gave it 100%. It looks fine, flows fine and has a little bit of everything. I know that broadway musicals and sped up wardrobe tests aren't everyone's cup of tea but it fits with the wackiness of the source material and they really pull out all the stops. i think it's great and i'm glad it exists. i hope margot robbie gets to produce a new one as i do think she would do a fantastic job. i think she actually knows the comics and really loves the character (like how Ryan Reynolds does deadpool) and more actors/actresses should be celebrated and encouraged for actually taking on producing and creating the content they want. That's how you get passion and passion is the first step towards a masterpiece.
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Tank girl fucking sucks. The comic sucks. The movie sucks.
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welcome to ban world bucko. i bet you haven't even made eye contact with the comic let alone read it.
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This week's movie night theme is Incel Night.
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We have to do a James Earl Jones Friday after Incel Night
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Bingo Long's Traveling All-Stars & Motor Kings gets an early return. also i think the last few times we watched something with James Earl Jones in it i brought. in this year alone he's appeared in 3 separate GBZ themes, one of them being Dragon night which was less than a month ago.
But I wanted to discuss something else with this post, not my murdering of Darth Vader.
When coming up with a GBZ theme there are a few things I consider: Is it fun? Can I get the movies? Does it make sense? and How much time do I have? That last one is probably one of the ones that can be the hardest to work around. Sometimes an idea doesn't strike me all week until Saturday evening, and then I'm scrounging and praying or asking users if they know where to find the films. Not the best methods but sometimes it leads to art. This weekend was one of these. I didn't have much to work with and thought "what do I have that I can use?" I remembered Benchwarmers 2 showing up but playing too late to really be effective, and thought that was a good place to start. So I asked myself: What is Benchwarmers 2?
This is simple: It is a sports comedy about a coed sport event with low stakes. That means our protagonists are not playing for the gold, millions are not on the line, and at the end of the day these are normal people. I thought that was a fun idea for a theme. So what else fits that theme? Why... Dodgeball! I remember it being a fun movie, and I think everyone can quote "if you can dodge a wrench you can dodge a ball!" It's technically higher stakes, but when you think about it... who the hell cares about dodgeball. At it's core it is a story about the underdogs just wanting to protect their little hidey hole and learning to become better because of it. A good movie. Great! That's 2 out of 3 and I just need a movie to fill the Zoomie requirement. So what do I do? I hop onto Google and look for a good fit. What do I see?
Just two pages worth and guess what? None of these films are older than 2000. Not a one fits the Zoomie, and there's like 10 or so there that fit the bill exactly for coed, low stakes, sports comedy. "What is the deal here?" I thought. After some looking I found *something* from the 90s: Base-ket Ball. That's 1998. After about half an hour spent I was stumped. Nothing fitting the bill in the 90s and so I went to my boomer CO @Very Honest Content to ask what gives? He linked me 3 different movies which I felt failed the theme test. They were all major league sports or minor league teams where there was higher stakes. This wasn't your local crew getting together in their time off to win the big game. What gives? Finally after the correct search I ended up landing on Squeeze Play (1979), found out it was Troma and knew this was the one that needed to play. In addition there were others I could've picked from around the same era like Bad News Bears that would've worked as well, but that's aside the point. I found the low stakes, co-ed sports movies: they were all in the 70s.
So what happened? Why is there an essentially 20 year gap in this genre? What gives? CO VHC had an enlightening answer: "In the 80s sports got bigger, doping was a thing, and there was more money in it."
In other words movies reflected the times: No longer were the films about the local underdogs getting together to win the big game then go back to their lives. now it was about the big sports stuff like Major League. So what gives?
Before I give a little theory I want to discuss the movies in GBZ order:
So back to my point: What the hell happened? Well this is why I like GBZ because it lets me discover these things and maybe put the pieces together. Lets go in release order to explain this:
Squeeze Play: 1979. Sports movie craze off of Bad News Bears and others, Kaufman and his brothers jumped at it, it initially bombed, they crawled their way through the local theaters to get a full US release. A real success story tbh and one of the reasons I like Troma. They take risks and let it pay off or roll with the punches. You might've had a young producer or director in there that in 20 years time say "I want to make the kind of movies I grew up watching." What did they watch? Bad News Bears, Squeeze Play, others... leads to something interesting way down the line.
Here comes the sports comedy renaissance as these people are entering their 40s and have the capital to make these movies. Movies like Dodgeball have something important to the mix: Passion. An essential ingredient to any successful product.
Lets take it further: 20 years later down the line you have Benchwarmers 2. It's clearly a cash grab. "What worked in my career 20 years ago? Oh that's right those sports comedies!" But the magic is gone. It doesn't really succeed the way you think it would. All this coupled with VHC explaining the changes in sports in the 80s and 90s really spoke to me. It might've just been a spur of the moment theme, but there was something there that was magical. It was a snapshot of so much. An evolution spanning nearly 50 years with declines matching the popular opinion of sports. In the 80s and 90s we weren't that cozy little Spring Town, New Jersey, just looking to take a break from our labor to do something for fun. It makes me sad a little bit, but also optimistic. Maybe, just maybe we'll go looking for that feeling again. Just one story in the 10,000 out there.
What's my point with this? Dunno. Just wanted to share. Maybe it's go out and play softball? Go find your happy ending.
I hope you enjoyed this rambling. @CIS White Droid will be putting forth the GBZ this week and I expect the essay on his theme on my desk by friday.
But I wanted to discuss something else with this post, not my murdering of Darth Vader.
When coming up with a GBZ theme there are a few things I consider: Is it fun? Can I get the movies? Does it make sense? and How much time do I have? That last one is probably one of the ones that can be the hardest to work around. Sometimes an idea doesn't strike me all week until Saturday evening, and then I'm scrounging and praying or asking users if they know where to find the films. Not the best methods but sometimes it leads to art. This weekend was one of these. I didn't have much to work with and thought "what do I have that I can use?" I remembered Benchwarmers 2 showing up but playing too late to really be effective, and thought that was a good place to start. So I asked myself: What is Benchwarmers 2?
This is simple: It is a sports comedy about a coed sport event with low stakes. That means our protagonists are not playing for the gold, millions are not on the line, and at the end of the day these are normal people. I thought that was a fun idea for a theme. So what else fits that theme? Why... Dodgeball! I remember it being a fun movie, and I think everyone can quote "if you can dodge a wrench you can dodge a ball!" It's technically higher stakes, but when you think about it... who the hell cares about dodgeball. At it's core it is a story about the underdogs just wanting to protect their little hidey hole and learning to become better because of it. A good movie. Great! That's 2 out of 3 and I just need a movie to fill the Zoomie requirement. So what do I do? I hop onto Google and look for a good fit. What do I see?
Just two pages worth and guess what? None of these films are older than 2000. Not a one fits the Zoomie, and there's like 10 or so there that fit the bill exactly for coed, low stakes, sports comedy. "What is the deal here?" I thought. After some looking I found *something* from the 90s: Base-ket Ball. That's 1998. After about half an hour spent I was stumped. Nothing fitting the bill in the 90s and so I went to my boomer CO @Very Honest Content to ask what gives? He linked me 3 different movies which I felt failed the theme test. They were all major league sports or minor league teams where there was higher stakes. This wasn't your local crew getting together in their time off to win the big game. What gives? Finally after the correct search I ended up landing on Squeeze Play (1979), found out it was Troma and knew this was the one that needed to play. In addition there were others I could've picked from around the same era like Bad News Bears that would've worked as well, but that's aside the point. I found the low stakes, co-ed sports movies: they were all in the 70s.
So what happened? Why is there an essentially 20 year gap in this genre? What gives? CO VHC had an enlightening answer: "In the 80s sports got bigger, doping was a thing, and there was more money in it."
In other words movies reflected the times: No longer were the films about the local underdogs getting together to win the big game then go back to their lives. now it was about the big sports stuff like Major League. So what gives?
Before I give a little theory I want to discuss the movies in GBZ order:
Dodgeball: Just a solid 2000s comedy. I think it hits the right beats, everyone looks like they're having fun, and you have some stand out performances. Stiller really makes you hate him, and Vince Vaughn, while big and fat, does a good job of making you kinda dislike him so when he has his face turn it manages to make you happy. The side characters are fun it succeeds at what it's supposed to do.
The Benchwarmers 2: Wow it's so bad. It's just slow, uninteresting, and just questionable outright. Why is John Lovitz the only returning character? Why is he barely playing the same character from the first movie? Why is it so unfunny compared to the original, which isn't the best movie but still manages to be a movie? I'll discuss that in a bit as well.
Squeeze Play: I missed a bit of it as I was making dinner, but I think this would've been my favorite of the night. It is a Troma so there is some odd moments (the scene where they molest the poor girl during the tryouts was like way out there to me for what the movie was), but it has some fantastic shots that really encapsulate what I was thinking with the theme. My favorite line might be right at the beginning, when the narrator says "There are 10,000 stories in the big city. This isn't one of them." As he says it you go from this big orchestra sound with horns, to silence as you hear the chirping of birds and you learn that the little town of Springtown, New Jersey care about one thing: softball. That's why I liked it. At the end of the day everyone, win or lose, is gonna go into work tomorrow at the mattress factory. They aren't playing for millions, they're playing for the chance to say "we won." I like the hook. That the women are fed up with it and they think that by getting into the game they might get the men to shut up. They're just as good. It's making the point so many other movies try to make 10 times as effectively (while everyone looks sexier too). I was irked when the girls lost right at the end but I think it was very on par for Troma. If it were... say a disney movie the girls would've gotten it done and they would've all been happy. Troma takes it a different way. The boys learn their lesson, but they still manage to pull a fast one. Fair enough. I can still enjoy that ending.
The Benchwarmers 2: Wow it's so bad. It's just slow, uninteresting, and just questionable outright. Why is John Lovitz the only returning character? Why is he barely playing the same character from the first movie? Why is it so unfunny compared to the original, which isn't the best movie but still manages to be a movie? I'll discuss that in a bit as well.
Squeeze Play: I missed a bit of it as I was making dinner, but I think this would've been my favorite of the night. It is a Troma so there is some odd moments (the scene where they molest the poor girl during the tryouts was like way out there to me for what the movie was), but it has some fantastic shots that really encapsulate what I was thinking with the theme. My favorite line might be right at the beginning, when the narrator says "There are 10,000 stories in the big city. This isn't one of them." As he says it you go from this big orchestra sound with horns, to silence as you hear the chirping of birds and you learn that the little town of Springtown, New Jersey care about one thing: softball. That's why I liked it. At the end of the day everyone, win or lose, is gonna go into work tomorrow at the mattress factory. They aren't playing for millions, they're playing for the chance to say "we won." I like the hook. That the women are fed up with it and they think that by getting into the game they might get the men to shut up. They're just as good. It's making the point so many other movies try to make 10 times as effectively (while everyone looks sexier too). I was irked when the girls lost right at the end but I think it was very on par for Troma. If it were... say a disney movie the girls would've gotten it done and they would've all been happy. Troma takes it a different way. The boys learn their lesson, but they still manage to pull a fast one. Fair enough. I can still enjoy that ending.
So back to my point: What the hell happened? Well this is why I like GBZ because it lets me discover these things and maybe put the pieces together. Lets go in release order to explain this:
Squeeze Play: 1979. Sports movie craze off of Bad News Bears and others, Kaufman and his brothers jumped at it, it initially bombed, they crawled their way through the local theaters to get a full US release. A real success story tbh and one of the reasons I like Troma. They take risks and let it pay off or roll with the punches. You might've had a young producer or director in there that in 20 years time say "I want to make the kind of movies I grew up watching." What did they watch? Bad News Bears, Squeeze Play, others... leads to something interesting way down the line.
Here comes the sports comedy renaissance as these people are entering their 40s and have the capital to make these movies. Movies like Dodgeball have something important to the mix: Passion. An essential ingredient to any successful product.
Lets take it further: 20 years later down the line you have Benchwarmers 2. It's clearly a cash grab. "What worked in my career 20 years ago? Oh that's right those sports comedies!" But the magic is gone. It doesn't really succeed the way you think it would. All this coupled with VHC explaining the changes in sports in the 80s and 90s really spoke to me. It might've just been a spur of the moment theme, but there was something there that was magical. It was a snapshot of so much. An evolution spanning nearly 50 years with declines matching the popular opinion of sports. In the 80s and 90s we weren't that cozy little Spring Town, New Jersey, just looking to take a break from our labor to do something for fun. It makes me sad a little bit, but also optimistic. Maybe, just maybe we'll go looking for that feeling again. Just one story in the 10,000 out there.
What's my point with this? Dunno. Just wanted to share. Maybe it's go out and play softball? Go find your happy ending.
I hope you enjoyed this rambling. @CIS White Droid will be putting forth the GBZ this week and I expect the essay on his theme on my desk by friday.
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It's Darling, but post apocalyptic capeshit, before the 90s extinction level events of that genre that caused Blade to be marketed as a vampire picture instead of a superhero movie. It blitzkriegs the trails Darling walked through originally for it to follow from.
Also I suggested a GBZ movie with a plot summary of, "Due to NCAA sanctions, the Texas State University Fightin' Armadillos must form a football team from their actual student body, with no scholarships to help, to play their football schedule." Which I swore was in the idea ballpark of "local nobodies form a team with no chance of hitting it big, but do." Like in the Bad News Bears plot echo of Rocky, which all of this is divergent from. I preferred the outcome of all three movies being ones I hadn't seen previously instead anyway, though. Talladega Nights would have been acceptable as the good too, because stock car racing is always limited in appeal due to the mechanical autism involved in the sport. I couldn't suggest Sandlot or anything like that and risk the chat riot.
If Star Wars wasn't an officially dead franchise again previously, it may as well be, now. AI Vader will be very painful.
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Should play the MST3K version of City Limits - I’m sure JEJ would appreciate the laughs.
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could do a weekend of him between incel friday night and GBZ on sunday night.
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I have a movie but not sure if it would count as femcel or not, Tell Them You Love Me. If it doesn't count can save it for another day, no big deal.
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So what is the theme for this weekend?
