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Native American burial sites in Arizona have been blown up by construction crews building the US-Mexico border wall, according to lawmakers and tribal leaders.

Authorities confirmed that "controlled blasting" has begun in Organ Pipe Cactus National Monument, a Unesco recognised natural reserve.

Raul Grijalva, a Democrat congressman, called the destruction "sacrilegious".

The government failed to consult the Tohono O'odham Nation, he said.

Environmental groups also warn of the damage being done to the local underground aquifer, as well as to migrating wildlife in the remote desert region about 115 miles (185km) west of Tucson.

Officials say the aim of the project is to construct a 30ft-tall (9m) steel barrier that runs for 43 miles on the national park land.

Twitter post by @PeccaryNotPig: This is the top of Monument Hill, a sacred site to multiple tribes, that @DHSgov is dynamiting right now to build the #borderwall. It's part of the historic homeland of the O'odham. Apache are buried here. Trump waived the Native American Graves Protection Act to allow this. Image Copyright @PeccaryNotPig@PECCARYNOTPIG
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What is Organ Pipe?
The United Nations designated Organ Pipe as an International Biosphere Reserve in 1976, calling it "a pristine example of an intact Sonoran Desert ecosystem".

Mr Grijalva, the chairman of the House Committee on Natural Resources, represents a district that encompasses the area, which shares 400 miles of border with Mexico.

Construction on Monument Hill above saguaro cacti
Image copyrightLAIKEN JORDAHL/CENTER FOR BIOLOGICAL DIVERSITYImage captionConstruction on Monument Hill above saguaro cacti
He toured the burial sites at the Organ Pipe, known as Monument Hill, last month, and was told that O'odham people buried warriors from the rival Apache tribe there.

"What we saw on Monument Hill was opposing tribes who were respectfully laid to rest - that is the one being blasted with dynamite," Mr Grijalva said.

An activist hikes in the Organ Pipe Cactus National Monument
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In interviews with US media, he called the Trump administration's conduct "sacrilegious" and said the environmental monitor that the government assigned to the project would do nothing to mitigate the cultural damage.

One area contained artefacts dating back 10,000 years.

Tribal chairman Ned Norris Jr told the Arizona Republic that even though the area is controlled by the US government, "we have inhabited this area since time immemorial."

"They're our ancestors. They're our remnants of who we are as a people, throughout this whole area. And it's our obligation, it's our duty to do what is necessary to protect that."

Twitter post by @RepRaulGrijalva: Remember when Trump threatened to blow up Iranian cultural sites? Looks like he set his sights on something closer to home. To build his racist wall, he's blowing up sacred Native American burial grounds without notifying local tribes. This is wrong. Image Copyright @RepRaulGrijalva@REPRAULGRIJALVA
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An internal report from the National Park Service obtained by the Washington Post says the border wall Mr Trump promised during his 2015 campaign would destroy up to 22 archeological sites within Organ Pipe alone.

Crews are reported to have also destroyed ancient saguaro cacti, which Mr Grijalva said the O'odham people see "as the embodiment of their ancestors".

"So to see them turned into mulch - it's deeply upsetting."

Is this legal?
The Trump administration has been able to build sections of the US-Mexico border wall on public land due to the 2005 REAL ID Act, which gives the federal government the right to waive laws that conflict with US national security policy.

In their bid to build the wall, the White House has waived dozens of laws - including ones that protected Native American graves, endangered species, and the environment.

Mr Grijalva said he will work towards repealing the 2005 act and will convene a congressional hearing in the coming weeks in an effort to do so.

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Looks like The Donald is enlisting the help of angry Injun spirits to protect the Southern border.
 
So is it a thing that if Indians bury someone in a place, then that place should not be touched forever? Also how much do you need to blast to build a wall?
 
If it will stop these illegals from crossing over and murdering people, they can build it over my great-grandfathers dead buried ass in Kentucky and everywhere in between for all I care.
 
So they buried their people in solid rock?

Or the blasting is happening in the next county over and these dicks are just using this an excuse to bitch?

You be the judge.
 
I would ask if the blasting is actually blowing up tombs or if it's just happening in the vicinity, but this is obviously just a political ploy.

" Oh, but building here makes you intolerant!"

Of all the Presidents to try this with. Trump is the one who will absolutely not care. It's not 2008 or 2012 anymore. Change the playbook.
 
The Left - "Hahaha, stupid Xtians with your backwards superstition we believe in Science lol it's 2020 :smug: "

Also The Left - "Won't SOMEBODY respect the beliefs of long-dead Stone Age animal worshippers and their magic rocks?!?? *sigh*"
 
As someone with a not insignificant amount of Indian Blood:

Fuck Indian Burial Grounds.

They are everywhere, and the actual gravesites are unmarked. Many Indians also hold the belief that bodies must not be exhumed.

So doing any work anywhere there used to be any sort of Indian presence (read: most of North America) becomes a politically fraught job.

Unless you pay "Just Compensation" of course.

Then you have the political hack-jobs on top of all that, and it can become a nightmare to deal with. Especially if you are dealing with Non-Oklahoma based Tribes, they tend to be he loudest and most annoying.
 
I happen to have talked with someone who went on this victimhood speech about how Trump tramples on his peoples land (Menominee or whatever it was called). He's white as a fucking sheet and never gets out of his retail job he complains about non-stop so I never even pretended to give a shit about the alligator tears he had pouring over his TDS.
 
The border wall actually being a physical wall is always going to remain one of the dumbest plans to stop immigration. Unless you man that wall like the Berlin Wall or the Korean DMZ theres no point to it. And even then people still snuck through those borders and they were risking getting shot and killed.

The whole thing stinks like a contracting scam, someone is making nice kickbacks from the contracts. Every liberal and SJW that tries to scream about the wall being racist is just as dumb as anyone who thinks the wall will prevent border crossing. And they'll continue to cry about "injustices" toward someone else's people when they are the ones being dicked for the wall because Mexico is not paying for it...
 
It is literally desert that was made into a national monument to make smuggling things from Mexico into America easier. Its current claim to fame is "being a place where a smuggler shot a Ranger". It isn't even on a reservation.
 
As someone with a not insignificant amount of Indian Blood:

Fuck Indian Burial Grounds.

They are everywhere, and the actual gravesites are unmarked. Many Indians also hold the belief that bodies must not be exhumed.

So doing any work anywhere there used to be any sort of Indian presence (read: most of North America) becomes a politically fraught job.

Unless you pay "Just Compensation" of course.

Then you have the political hack-jobs on top of all that, and it can become a nightmare to deal with. Especially if you are dealing with Non-Oklahoma based Tribes, they tend to be he loudest and most annoying.
Yeah, it's typically a grift. There's a few injun things that ought to be left alone and you can tell them from a rock or a mound of dirt real easy.
 
"That's our sacred land!"
>no1curr, Runs with Scissors

Everything was fucking sacred. Every weird looking rock, fucked up tree, spooky sounding noise.
 
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