Naruto/Boruto Griefing Thread

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Ichigo never fucks his sisters...Besides, as said above the ending was rushed for a lot of reasons. Kubo got a second chance with the anime to fix it. However, since then Bleach has had other sequel material, notably Can't Fear Your Own World and the Hell Chapter which are both not just good, they're great. Better than ANYTHING Kishimoto has made in the past few years since Naruto ended.
Okay, another theory. Naruto has the timeskip be an easy drop out point for a good chunk of people, who will only know of Shippuden by either wikis or games and thus have a warmer memories of the show due to Sasuke retrieval arc being pure kino and some fillers being better than the rest of the show.
 
Even though "your friends helped you get to this point" is supposed the central theme of Naruto's character, they could've worked on that more in the war arc in that fight against against Madara and Ten Tails. They should have had the rest of the Konoha 11 be more proactive in that battle, because trying to force the "My friends helped me do this" point while it's clearly evident that Naruto and Sasuke are carrying everyone HARD makes it come across as the anime equivalent of a participation trophy.
 
Even though "your friends helped you get to this point" is supposed the central theme of Naruto's character, they could've worked on that more in the war arc in that fight against against Madara and Ten Tails. They should have had the rest of the Konoha 11 be more proactive in that battle, because trying to force the "My friends helped me do this" point while it's clearly evident that Naruto and Sasuke are carrying everyone HARD makes it come across as the anime equivalent of a participation trophy.
This is what I liked about the TYBW arc in Bleach (and every arc in One Piece). In both cases, everyone was usesful (though some were more useful than others). In Naruto, no more than 5 people mattered in the end.
 
I think one of the things that help me to still look fondly on Naruto is it it having a conclusive good ending.

With shonen you either have no endings, dark/tragic endings or very partial endings not committing to most characters relationships because harems. Then there's shit like Bleach with an incredibly self centred ending where Ichigo fucks his sisters.
I guess I gotta give it to Naruto for not having a canon harem (fillers and movies are another story). For the main character, there is Hinata and maybe Sakura and that's it.
 
I guess I gotta give it to Naruto for not having a canon harem (fillers and movies are another story). For the main character, there is Hinata and maybe Sakura and that's it.
I'd give the story credit if Hinata were actually a character. The fucking fillers give her more character development than Kishimoto ever did. My favorite is how they had a filler arc where Hinata gets her own variant of the 64 Palms. Kishimoto apparently forgot they did this and she didn't learn the 64 Palms until the fucking War Arc at the end of the series. Apparently her problem was...taking another step forward and not stopping at 32? Gotta love how she doesn't get this until it's completely useless and they're firing nukes at each other. Also what the hell are her lion palm things? We never get an explanation. She just does them every now and again but we don't know what they are or what they do. Are they a gentle fist thing only bigger? They're about as useless as fucking shuriken, but an explanation would be nice.
 
I'd give the story credit if Hinata were actually a character. The fucking fillers give her more character development than Kishimoto ever did. My favorite is how they had a filler arc where Hinata gets her own variant of the 64 Palms. Kishimoto apparently forgot they did this and she didn't learn the 64 Palms until the fucking War Arc at the end of the series. Apparently her problem was...taking another step forward and not stopping at 32? Gotta love how she doesn't get this until it's completely useless and they're firing nukes at each other. Also what the hell are her lion palm things? We never get an explanation. She just does them every now and again but we don't know what they are or what they do. Are they a gentle fist thing only bigger? They're about as useless as fucking shuriken, but an explanation would be nice.
From the wiki:

The user changes the shape of chakra released from both hands into large guardian lion-shaped shrouds. Doing so greatly increases range and destructive power. The lion heads drain the chakra network of those they touch. It is an extremely difficult ability to learn, as the slightest mistake in chakra control will lead to failure, meaning it is a feat requiring the Byakugan. This technique can be used in conjunction with the Eight Trigrams Sixty-Four Palms.

Hope that helps.
 
From the wiki:

The user changes the shape of chakra released from both hands into large guardian lion-shaped shrouds. Doing so greatly increases range and destructive power. The lion heads drain the chakra network of those they touch. It is an extremely difficult ability to learn, as the slightest mistake in chakra control will lead to failure, meaning it is a feat requiring the Byakugan. This technique can be used in conjunction with the Eight Trigrams Sixty-Four Palms.

Hope that helps.
Would've been nice if I didn't need supplemental materials for that. You know, as much shit as Bleach gets at least I know how all those moves work. Same with One Piece.
 
Would've been nice if I didn't need supplemental materials for that. You know, as much shit as Bleach gets at least I know how all those moves work. Same with One Piece.
IIRC it was explained when it was used against Pain.
 
From the wiki:

The user changes the shape of chakra released from both hands into large guardian lion-shaped shrouds. Doing so greatly increases range and destructive power. The lion heads drain the chakra network of those they touch. It is an extremely difficult ability to learn, as the slightest mistake in chakra control will lead to failure, meaning it is a feat requiring the Byakugan. This technique can be used in conjunction with the Eight Trigrams Sixty-Four Palms.

Hope that helps.
I know this is a series about ninja-wizards shooting lasers at each other but the logic of she made the attack look like a lion so therefor it is more powerful is still hilarious.
 
Boruto Chapter 11 has dropped let's go.

Your enjoyment of this chapter really depends on how much you can overlook the absolutely DISGUSTING amount of power creep and non-sensical storytelling.

We start with Jura vs. Himawari. She helps Inojin off the spike with her hair and by the time she puts him on the ground, he's immediately healed. (Told ya he wasn't going to die.) Turns out she can instantaneously heal herself and other people now. Thus killing all the tension and suspense in any scene she will be in moving forward. I'm sure this absolutely broken ability won't bite Ike/Kishi in the ass as giant plot holes later on. Himawari does the classic "This is my fight, go" to Shikadai and his team and says it just feels like what her father and brother would do.

The fighting begins, and I'm going say it off the bat, Kishimoto drew this. The art is too clean and on model, and I daresay the fight choreography is even kind of cool. There's a panel where Jura jumps into the sky and his cloak almost look like wings and when he dives at Himawari he looks like a hawk or a falcon. Himawari shoots...a tailed beast bomb at him. Great. Wonderful, she did nothing to earn it, does it effortlessly and it's now just ki blasts. Jura slaps her around a bit more, and decides to "get serious". Himawari ain't looking so good.

We cut to Sarada and Sasuke. Here's where the chapter falls apart. Sasuke is downed and just submerges himself in the claw marks to instantly heal himself. Wonderful they can both do it. Sarada asks why he can use Chidori, clearly not recognizing him. He asks about her Sharingan and says he doesn't have those and that's why Chidori is so hard to control. You sure had no problem up until now though. This sucks. We were doing kind of good up until now of at least keeping up a decent story pace and not wasting time on useless beats. This whole "Sarada doesn't know it's her own father thing" just stretches out this arc even though we can all see where this is going. FFS, just let her figure it out so we can get some actual stakes and tension going. All this does is delay the inevitable and for what? There's not much of a reason. Sasuke claims he doesn't know who he is and he's trying to figure it out. He doesn't know who Sasuke Uchiha is either. I'm not sure if he means this in a literal sense or a metaphorical one. He seemed just fine earlier. If I recall, he had some idea of who Sasuke was. Maybe I'm wrong.

Sumire says his target is Sarada and Sasuke Chidori's her before anyone can act. Konohamaru goes to stop him from attacking when Sasuke uses Chidori on him. Konohamaru blocks with his new move Rasen Barricade, a shield made from the spiraling of Rasengan. Why the fuck couldn't this be Uzuhiko? This was much better than "HE ATTACKS WITH THE ROTATION OF THE PLANET TO MAKE YOU UNBALANCED AND STUMBLE AROUND A BIT!!!" Fuck this manga is so lame. Anyway, Konohamaru gets slapped, Sumire gets slapped, Sasuke pins down Sarada and says the moment he was born she popped into his mind and he wants to know why. He's going to devour her, and see why.

Elsewhere, Himawari is running out of gas. Jura confirms her astounding healing abilities. Something interesting is how this is conveyed by Jura attacking Himawari, and it simply not doing anything. She clearly is hit and her clothes will rip, but she herself will have no damage. At least they're doing something with it art wise.

Anyway, help is on the way! And guess what? It's time for our Kawaki Sucks Moment!!!! Every single chapter, Kawaki sucks or is told he sucks. This time, by Delta. While flying over to help, Delta asks him why he's going when Jura bitch slapped him five seconds ago and what can he possibly do to help? Ouch. Before he can answer, Boruto flies past them both, saves Himawari and teleports away to where Sarada is via a Toad friend and saves her as well. Sasuke confronts Boruto and the chapter ends.

Good art. More bullshit storytelling. Just stomping out any good will left. But hey, at least the art is neat for once and I can tell what's going on in the fights. That's something. Still, I'm tired of this plot just dragging, fucking go somewhere or fuck off.
 
I saw the leaks and why is sarada tarted up like a cheap floozy? I only skimmed the show since im an old man now and the show is ass, so I don't know whats happening in the manga.
 
I've been trying to think how to "fix" the series and I think you need to start at the Sasuke Retrieval Arc:

  • Have Choji and maybe Kiba die but change nothing else.

  • In Shippuden have Shikamaru resent Naruto for what happened pointing out that Sasuke made his choice and it lead to the death of his best friend.

  • Don't have the magic "Old lady uses jesus powers to save Gaara" bullshit and have him genuinely die to help build up the Akatsuki as a genuine threat.

  • Build up Danzo earlier, they did pretty good with Sai and Yamato but show us the dark side of the leaf more.

  • Skipping ahead in the Pain arc have Naruto lose the nine tails entirely having only Sage mode to really rely on as his trump card

  • Have an arc dealing with the fallout and Danzo siezing power leading to a Konoha civil war, maybe have Obito manipulating him from the shadows like he did Pain.

  • Have Sasuke come back during this time to try and get revenge for what Danzo did, this means you can still have team up moments with team 7.

  • Have the final battle be a dual one between not only Naruto and Sasuke but Kakashi and Obito

  • End the series with Naruto having to kill Sasuke have him acknowledge this is what people like Obito, Pain and Danzo had to go through but also show that he's strong enough to get through this.

  • And finally and most importantly, have him bang that hot blonde chick from the lightining country.
 
I saw the leaks and why is sarada tarted up like a cheap floozy? I only skimmed the show since im an old man now and the show is ass, so I don't know whats happening in the manga.
This is just how she's drawn in the manga. I don't know if Shounen wanted a sex icon or if Ikemoto is just a pedophile. But it's very hard to tell. The first panel of Two Blue Vortex proper is a spread of Sarada in her new hooker outfit. Heels and all. That's literally the very first thing you see when the manga post time skip starts.

Thank you for your service. It sounds like if I checked it out myself, it'll completely kill whatever creative drive I have left. You'd think it'd be encouraging, but it's not.
Part of what gets me through this is that at least the pacing isn't dwelling on things chapter to chapter. It's a slow pace for a monthly manga sure, but at least the story doesn't usually waste time on things that aren't going anywhere. This time I'm hitting a wall. We all know where the Sarada and Tree Sasuke dynamic is going, either hit the beats and move along or do something else. Nobody cares or wants this.
 
Part of what gets me through this is that at least the pacing isn't dwelling on things chapter to chapter. It's a slow pace for a monthly manga sure, but at least the story doesn't usually waste time on things that aren't going anywhere. This time I'm hitting a wall. We all know where the Sarada and Tree Sasuke dynamic is going, either hit the beats and move along or do something else. Nobody cares or wants this.
This is what does it for me. The story is as predictable as it gets as if it's just Naruto 2.0 down to the minutest detail. Only 70% edgier and cringier. The fact that these Moto dudes seem to be drawing heavily from hiphop culture when it isn't even the 90s or 2000s anymore just screams "out of touch".
 
This is just how she's drawn in the manga. I don't know if Shounen wanted a sex icon or if Ikemoto is just a pedophile. But it's very hard to tell. The first panel of Two Blue Vortex proper is a spread of Sarada in her new hooker outfit. Heels and all. That's literally the very first thing you see when the manga post time skip starts.
This is what does it for me. The story is as predictable as it gets as if it's just Naruto 2.0 down to the minutest detail. Only 70% edgier and cringier. The fact that these Moto dudes seem to be drawing heavily from hiphop culture when it isn't even the 90s or 2000s anymore just screams "out of touch".
Dude is horny. Do not look deeper for the depth is ankle level. Honestly, if you are going to make her wear a skimpy outfit, make it look practical and cool. Those outfits look good if you are posing for a mangazine but they are hard to draw for action. Not to mention the hairstyles. You can have her be hot and easier to draw. It might help with time management and thus allow more effort to go into the writing. Also, Shonen Jump is mainly targeted at hormonal teenage boys. Of course they will so sexy girls of that age.
 
Dude is horny. Do not look deeper for the depth is ankle level. Honestly, if you are going to make her wear a skimpy outfit, make it look practical and cool. Those outfits look good if you are posing for a mangazine but they are hard to draw for action. Not to mention the hairstyles. You can have her be hot and easier to draw. It might help with time management and thus allow more effort to go into the writing. Also, Shonen Jump is mainly targeted at hormonal teenage boys. Of course they will so sexy girls of that age.
Not like back then. At least Tsunade was the only one who had the most sex appeal. This is overdoing it.
 
Not like back then. At least Tsunade was the only one who had the most sex appeal. This is overdoing it.
True but one sexy woman is rarely enough. My main problem is that they went full hooker with her as opposed to merely skimpy. It does not fit the story or the character. I would be fine if it was a cover outfit or something but it just does not work.
 
True but one sexy woman is rarely enough. My main problem is that they went full hooker with her as opposed to merely skimpy. It does not fit the story or the character. I would be fine if it was a cover outfit or something but it just does not work.
She looks like a Playboy cover girl.
If Playboy decided to throw whatever pretense it had and did ops with minors. :stress:
 
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