Mosul- 'victory over Islamic State' - Here's hoping it sticks.

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Iraq's Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi has flown into the city of Mosul to congratulate the Iraqi soldiers and fighters for defeating Islamic State and taking back control of the city.

Iraq's Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi has announced "victory" over Islamic State group fighters in the city of Mosul, his office said.

"The commander in chief of the armed forces [Prime Minister] Haider al-Abadi arrived in the liberated city of Mosul and congratulated the heroic fighters and the Iraqi people for the great victory," a statement from his office said.

The victory comes after eight months of urban warfare, bringing an end to three years of jihadist rule in the city.

After the fighting, the real test begins

The Iraqi military says the battle for Mosul has entered its final phase, but what comes next will be crucial to the international battle against the Islamic State group.
The battle has left large parts of Mosul in ruins, killed thousands of civilians and displaced nearly 1 million people.

The decaying corpses of militants lay in the narrow streets of the Old City where Islamic State had staged a last stand against Iraqi forces backed by a US-led coalition.

The group vowed to "fight to the death" in Mosul, but Iraqi military spokesman Brigadier General Yahya Rasool told state TV earlier on Sunday that 30 militants had been killed attempting to escape by swimming across the River Tigris that bisects the city.

Cornered in a shrinking area, the militants have resorted to sending women suicide bombers among the thousands of civilians who are emerging from the battlefield wounded, malnourished and fearful.

Life on Mosul's front line

Mosul is in a state of suspended animation, with control of the city split between Iraqi Government forces and the Islamic State group, Middle East correspondent Matt Brown writes.
The battle has also exacted a heavy toll on Iraq's security forces.

The Iraqi Government has not revealed casualty figures, but a funding request from the US Department of Defense said the elite Counter-Terrorism Service, which has spearheaded the fight in Mosul, had suffered a loss of 40 per cent.

The United States leads an international coalition that is backing the campaign against Islamic State in Mosul by conducting airstrikes against the militants and assisting troops on the ground.

Land controlled by Islamic State dwindles
Without Mosul — by far the largest city to fall under militant control — Islamic State's dominion in Iraq will be reduced to mainly rural, desert areas west and south of the city where tens of thousands of people live.

It is almost exactly three years since the ultra-hardline group's leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi proclaimed a "caliphate" spanning Syria and Iraq from the pulpit of the medieval Grand al-Nuri mosque.

Mr al-Abadi declared the end of Islamic State's "state of falsehood" a week ago, after security forces retook the mosque — although only after retreating militants blew it up.

The United Nations predicts it will cost more than $US1 billion to repair basic infrastructure in Mosul.

In some of the worst affected areas, almost no buildings appear to have escaped damage and Mosul's dense construction means the extent of the devastation might be underestimated, UN officials said.

Article copied from the ABC News website on 9/7/2017
 
Current President is not a cuck and actually getting shit done re:ISIS so I'm guessing they won't take Mosul back any time soon
 
ISIS has actually done one good thing, they've made Iraq get a different playbook than the bullshit Arab Army one they were running. They've managed to create a cohesive military that shuts shit right the fuck down, fights well and doesn't fall in to the trap of hoarding information from Jr. officers and NCOs while operating within the standards we spent the last 15 years trying to get them onboard with. They're lining up with Jordan from a military outlook and starting to drift toward Kuwait politically and that's seriously a fucking miracle
 
ISIS has actually done one good thing, they've made Iraq get a different playbook than the bullshit Arab Army one they were running. They've managed to create a cohesive military that shuts shit right the fuck down, fights well and doesn't fall in to the trap of hoarding information from Jr. officers and NCOs while operating within the standards we spent the last 15 years trying to get them onboard with. They're lining up with Jordan from a military outlook and starting to drift toward Kuwait politically and that's seriously a fucking miracle

That's already the direction they were going in already, but it sped them up by like a decade plus compared to where they'd be right now.
 
That's already the direction they were going in already, but it sped them up by like a decade plus compared to where they'd be right now.


It serious wasn't. I had to work with a few Iraqi field grade officers right before the ISIS shit and they were just as incompetent and lazy as they had been in 2005. They didn't trust their equipment, they refused to share training resources and worst of all they would actively talk about just retreating and waiting for the Americans and Brits to show up and fight. Hell, there's a very good reason ISIS had so many Humvee's, M16s and American made APCs and tanks before 2015 and it was because the Iraqi army would just flee and abandon equipment, vehicles and entire FOBs after ISIS simply threatened them. Defections to ISIS were something like a 1 in 6 type thing too for the Jr. enlisted.

ISIS brutally slaughtering people wholesale and killing the women and children of the members of the Iraqi army and police made those mother fuckers HARD. A marsec buddy of mine told me it's night and day to what's happened. When he was infantry back in 2008 when he'd show up to engage muhj with iraqi forces backing them up, they'd watch as the iraqis would just hide, mag dump over a wall, and retreat every single time. Now when he's rolled up to assist them they just tell the layout, ask for reinforcement on the weak side or just a JTAC to help coordinate artillery and airstrikes and go after the ISIS fighters like our door kickers go after them. They weren't on that path until liveleak became the Iraqi government employee site for seeing if your sister had been sold off as a slave or simply raped and butchered.
 
If Iraq does become as secular as Kuwait, then this might place a bad omen to Saudi Arabia letting them know that their precious Islamic monarchy isn't working. That's just a guess though.
 
I agree that out of these three times (the army's readiness) was the weakest of the bunch and they probably wouldn't be a great army still, but they were going in that direction nonetheless. Politically they were certainly going toward the Kuwaiti route, and the army was being built from the group up to be modelled on Jordan's.

It's just that thanks to Obama pulling out way too early because he didn't want to be no babby daddy they were redpilled by ISIS into not fucking up anymore

There's still hope yet Iraq might turn out good
 
It serious wasn't. I had to work with a few Iraqi field grade officers right before the ISIS shit and they were just as incompetent and lazy as they had been in 2005. They didn't trust their equipment, they refused to share training resources and worst of all they would actively talk about just retreating and waiting for the Americans and Brits to show up and fight. Hell, there's a very good reason ISIS had so many Humvee's, M16s and American made APCs and tanks before 2015 and it was because the Iraqi army would just flee and abandon equipment, vehicles and entire FOBs after ISIS simply threatened them. Defections to ISIS were something like a 1 in 6 type thing too for the Jr. enlisted.

What you are describing to me was an army that was dead green with no experience, and probably had the parasitic idea that the international community would bail them out.

ISIS and their atrocities to the Iraqis, and the international community's reluctance to march in gave the iraqi military a reason to reorganize, and very likely gave the soldiers proper motivation to bunker down and fight back.
 
Article copied from the ABC News website on 9/7/2017

The Iraqi Government has not revealed casualty figures, but a funding request from the US Department of Defense said the elite Counter-Terrorism Service, which has spearheaded the fight in Mosul, had suffered a loss of 40 per cent.

That doesn't sound very elite to me. It sounds like they suck ass.

Remember the "elite Republican Guard" we kept hearing about during Gulf I? And then when we actually encountered them they folded like a pup tent.
 
That doesn't sound very elite to me. It sounds like they suck ass.

Remember the "elite Republican Guard" we kept hearing about during Gulf I? And then when we actually encountered them they folded like a pup tent.

They were elite units at removing your fingernails and shocking your balls with golf cart batteries, not so much shooting at people who shoot back
 
ISIS and their atrocities to the Iraqis, and the international community's reluctance to march in gave the iraqi military a reason to reorganize, and very likely gave the soldiers proper motivation to bunker down and fight back.
If they can keep the momentum up, they can push ISIS out of Iraq soon. But even then, they'll still be rampaging throughout Syria and they still have quite a bit of territory there.
 
ISIS has actually done one good thing, they've made Iraq get a different playbook than the bullshit Arab Army one they were running. They've managed to create a cohesive military that shuts shit right the fuck down, fights well and doesn't fall in to the trap of hoarding information from Jr. officers and NCOs while operating within the standards we spent the last 15 years trying to get them onboard with. They're lining up with Jordan from a military outlook and starting to drift toward Kuwait politically and that's seriously a fucking miracle
They were already doing that when the US left. Then Maliki shit all over it by kicking out Kurds, Sunnis, and unreliable Shia from the military.

This was, if you follow that train of thought, just then having to relearn to same lesson a 3rd time.
 
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