Morgane Oger / Ronan Oger - defunded a rape crisis shelter, JY frenemy, sues ppl for misgendering, stalks meghan murphy, EX vp of new dem party that lost 3+ elections

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I really hope there's some kind of populist surprise to reverse all of this bullshit in the upcoming elections this year. Under 4 years of Trudeau, Canada has become the world's largest insane asylum.
 
BustyLady said:
Can we just get rid of leaf land now? There is literally no reason for Canada to exist.
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Both the troon's genitals and the riding are called the same thing?
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AnOminous said:
He certainly has what he needs for a constitutional challenge.
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This case was essentially the same as Whatcott's previous loss which higher courts refused to hear. Whatcott is just as crazy as Oger and this was a battle to see who was crazier.


Whatcott's "expert" witnesses were religious nuts just like him so they contributed nothing to the case. Had he been able to convince more reasonable people to plead his case the decision might have been different but nobody with any sort of integrity would associate themselves with Whatcott. Thing is, Whatcott will have refused to work with anyone who could have provided facts even if they offered: radical feminists, lesbians, detransitioners, secular scientists and doctors like Ken Zucker etc...

In the end I don't think it will have a whole lot of effect even though it's been hailed as landmark. It doesn't address sex based rights vs. gender identity and so far courts have sided with bio sex when there is a conflict.

IANAL but it seems that the decision means it is discrimination to use trooning out to discredit during an election the same way race or physical disability can't be. I don't agree with the decision. Trooning is a symptom of mental illness and/or a paraphilia they are forcing the public to participate in meaning it's sexual assault or at least harassment. Both are legitimate reasons that someone shouldn't hold office. Whatcott had no reliable witness to demonstrate that though and that's why Oger didn't have to dispute any scientific and fact based evidence. There wasn't any.

It doesn't mean that waxing salons are required to service laydee balls. It doesn't mean Canadians can't call him Ronan, he, male or troon. It means that you can't call for his death due to being a troon. The fine they imposed was the for the flyer Whatcott delivered, his court antics just added to the total. On their own they wouldn't be discrimination and the case would not have gone forward.
 
This garbage is fucking infuriating.
I don't hate gays. I don't hate people with gender dysphoria. I don't even hate transexuals.
But what I fucking hate are these special snowflakes thinking they're special because they chopped their fucking dicks and demand special treatment because of that.
 
Inquisitor_BadAss said:
It’s like when teenage girl tries to stuff her bra to impress boys only for her chest to look lopsided.
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They always complain about the tweenage milestones they missed out on. He's too creepy to get invited for sleepovers but he can still enjoy the gossip about his crooked kleenex tits!
 
simulated goat said:
They always complain about the tweenage milestones they missed out on. He's too creepy to get invited for sleepovers but he can still enjoy the gossip about his crooked kleenex tits!
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Imagine trying to explain to a woman in Brazil or Ghana who has been doing farm work since she was 6 that a white North American man is very oppressed and marginalized because he never got to paint his toenails with girls at a sweet 16 party.
 
People like this make me want to leave the west. Unless the people and politicians grow some balls and tell these ghouls to fuck off, we'll be seeing this in the States.
 
No Canuckistani has any right to talk shit about America or its leadership as long as this ruling holds.

deathdisco said:
This case was essentially the same as Whatcott's previous loss which higher courts refused to hear. Whatcott is just as crazy as Oger and this was a battle to see who was crazier.


Whatcott's "expert" witnesses were religious nuts just like him so they contributed nothing to the case. Had he been able to convince more reasonable people to plead his case the decision might have been different but nobody with any sort of integrity would associate themselves with Whatcott. Thing is, Whatcott will have refused to work with anyone who could have provided facts even if they offered: radical feminists, lesbians, detransitioners, secular scientists and doctors like Ken Zucker etc...

In the end I don't think it will have a whole lot of effect even though it's been hailed as landmark. It doesn't address sex based rights vs. gender identity and so far courts have sided with bio sex when there is a conflict.

IANAL but it seems that the decision means it is discrimination to use trooning out to discredit during an election the same way race or physical disability can't be. I don't agree with the decision. Trooning is a symptom of mental illness and/or a paraphilia they are forcing the public to participate in meaning it's sexual assault or at least harassment. Both are legitimate reasons that someone shouldn't hold office. Whatcott had no reliable witness to demonstrate that though and that's why Oger didn't have to dispute any scientific and fact based evidence. There wasn't any.

It doesn't mean that waxing salons are required to service laydee balls. It doesn't mean Canadians can't call him Ronan, he, male or troon. It means that you can't call for his death due to being a troon. The fine they imposed was the for the flyer Whatcott delivered, his court antics just added to the total. On their own they wouldn't be discrimination and the case would not have gone forward.
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So basically, they needed a weak-minded sped to beat to make this ruling happen in the first lace, knowing that anybody more capable would absolutely demolish them.
 
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deathdisco said:
This case was essentially the same as Whatcott's previous loss which higher courts refused to hear. Whatcott is just as crazy as Oger and this was a battle to see who was crazier.


Whatcott's "expert" witnesses were religious nuts just like him so they contributed nothing to the case. Had he been able to convince more reasonable people to plead his case the decision might have been different but nobody with any sort of integrity would associate themselves with Whatcott. Thing is, Whatcott will have refused to work with anyone who could have provided facts even if they offered: radical feminists, lesbians, detransitioners, secular scientists and doctors like Ken Zucker etc...

In the end I don't think it will have a whole lot of effect even though it's been hailed as landmark. It doesn't address sex based rights vs. gender identity and so far courts have sided with bio sex when there is a conflict.

IANAL but it seems that the decision means it is discrimination to use trooning out to discredit during an election the same way race or physical disability can't be. I don't agree with the decision. Trooning is a symptom of mental illness and/or a paraphilia they are forcing the public to participate in meaning it's sexual assault or at least harassment. Both are legitimate reasons that someone shouldn't hold office. Whatcott had no reliable witness to demonstrate that though and that's why Oger didn't have to dispute any scientific and fact based evidence. There wasn't any.

It doesn't mean that waxing salons are required to service laydee balls. It doesn't mean Canadians can't call him Ronan, he, male or troon. It means that you can't call for his death due to being a troon. The fine they imposed was the for the flyer Whatcott delivered, his court antics just added to the total. On their own they wouldn't be discrimination and the case would not have gone forward.
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Keep in mind, Canada is the country that had a Supreme Court case that ruled that Holocaust denial in a educational setting is a hate crime, and JBP (for all his other faults) looks pretty correct about the misuse and abuse of "misgendering protections" forced into legislation.
 
Army Burger said:
Rogaine Ogre won his legal case

www.thestar.com

Vancouver activist Morgane Oger wins ‘landmark’ transgender rights decision | The Star

The well-known advocate has won her human-rights complaint against a Christian activist who published disparaging flyers about her in Vancouver.
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Vancouver activist Morgane Oger wins ‘landmark’ transgender rights decision
VANCOUVER—A Vancouver human-rights tribunal has ruled there’s no room for public debate about whether transgender people are who they say they are.
Well-known trans advocate Morgane Oger filed the complaint against Christian activist Bill Whatcott after he distributed flyers disparaging her for being a trans woman.
The case focused on flyers distributed to residents of the Vancouver-False Creek riding in 2017 when trans-rights activist Morgane Oger was running for office with the B.C. NDP.

The case focused on flyers distributed to residents of the Vancouver-False Creek riding in 2017 when trans-rights activist Morgane Oger was running for office with the B.C. NDP. (Jennifer Gauthier / Star Vancouver)

The 104-page ruling, which goes into detail about the types of discrimination trans people face, is a win for trans rights in B.C. and across the country, said Susanna Allevato Quail, Oger’s lawyer.
“This decision is really a landmark decision in establishing the scope of protections under the human-rights code for transgender people,” she said.
“It is not a legitimate subject of public debate, whether or not it’s OK to be transgender or whether transgender people are real.”
Whatcott’s lawyer could not be immediately reached for comment.
The flyers Whatcott distributed described Oger as a “biological male” and a “transvestite.” They were distributed to residents of the Vancouver-False Creek riding in 2017 when Oger was running for office with the B.C. NDP.
Oger filed a human-rights complaint, alleging the flyers were discriminatory and hateful and targeted her identity as a trans woman. Whatcott denied the allegations, asserting that his freedom of speech and religion entitled him to publish his views on Oger.
In the ruling, distributed to lawyers on Wednesday, the tribunal judge ordered Whatcott to pay Oger $35,000 in compensation for injury to her dignity, feelings and self-respect. Whatcott was also ordered to pay Oger an additional $20,000 for his improper conduct during and before the hearings.
“(It) is really so encouraging ... to have the tribunal say you know you can’t argue that you are just commenting on a legitimate public issue because this is not a public issue. There is no debate about whether people are or should be transgender,” said Quail.
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-Insane copyright laws are going to ruin the internet in the EU
-You need to buy a license to masturbate in the UK
-You can go to prison for 10 years for distributing the Christchurch shooting video in New Zealand
-There's now a court precedent in place that makes mocking trannies illegal in Canada

I've never been happier to be an American.
 
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Jordan B Peterson swoops in with an "I told you so"
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He is right that regular court is gonna jail him for being unable to pay. He's unwilling too obviously, but he couldn't pay if he wanted to. In the judgement they note that whatcott doesn't have money (he has spent everything on legal defenses for criminal charges stemming from handing out anti-gay flyers at gay pride) and then slammed him with a 55 thousand dollar judgment. They want him in jail for hurt feelings.

It blows me away that they treat this guy like a criminal when he is a dime-a-dozen harmless loon in the states. Theres usually 5 or 10 of them protesting any given gay pride parade, no one cares. The westboro baptist church still has their dumb website and signs. It brought americans together to condemn & fuck with them collectively, and the WBC recruited maybe... 2 people, iirc?

The life site news page points out something i neglected to highlight, when whatcott's attorney wanted to introduce evidence that Oger is a male the judges said that truth wasn't a defense in this case. Truth should be what courts are supposed to be after.

Manly-Chicken said:
-You need to buy a license to masturbate in the UK
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you've pointed out a little known fact: masturbation was invented by al gore when he discovered the internet. before that it was impossible
 
No, come on, it's just an alt right talking point that people are getting in legal trouble for "misgendering" people who lie about their gender.

The Ghost of ODB said:
In the US, hate speech is not protected under freedom of speech laws; however, misgendering someone is not hate speech (...yet), but calling someone a "tranny" is.
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No. Maybe idiots on twitter told you that, but no, it's untrue. "Hate speech" is 100% protected under freedom of speech. This is what has helped insulate us from the utter retardation the rest of the world is suffering from. "Hate speech" is speech the people in power hate, in other words, the only free speech is that which includes "Hate speech".
 
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sperginity said:
you've pointed out a little known fact: masturbation was invented by al gore when he discovered the internet. before that it was impossible
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So, if you live in the UK you either have to go to the grocery store and publicly buy a porno license in front of everyone in town, or go back to the stone age, head to the book store, and publicly buy a Playboy in front of everyone in town.

The poor fuckers can't even kill themselves because guns and knives are banned.
 
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You're right, I was conflating it with the idea that you're not free from any repercussions that may arise from exercising your freedom of speech.

Anyway. I'm a 'I may not agree with what you say but I support your right to say it' type, so my bad for the confusion and thanks for the clarification.
 
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