Monkeypox General 🐒🦠 - Authorities are calling it Monkeypox. The UK has begun a rapid deployment of Smallpox vaccines to first responders.

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What has the monkeypox disease started?






If you need something after reading all that, here you go. https://youtube.com/watch?v=zirSztdOUPk
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JC... I don't care if he was joking around, just not understanding or reading the room is enough of a judgment fail to raise some serious red flags! Not to mention the question of why we find yet another pridepox fag (and an earlier one, not earliest) working around small children once again! Orgies on the weekend, preschool teacher on the days. sigh


Also.. America hates idiots like you too! So right back at you and you clearly know where the door is!
 
pikachudidnothingwrong said:
JC... I don't care if he was joking around, just not understanding or reading the room is enough of a judgment fail to raise some serious red flags! Not to mention the question of why we find yet another pridepox fag (and an earlier one, not earliest) working around small children once again! Orgies on the weekend, preschool teacher on the days. sigh


Also.. America hates idiots like you too! So right back at you and you clearly know where the door is!
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Honestly, I’m wondering if monkeypox research is being hindered become some activists in the field don’t want the disease to be seen as exclusively something gay men can get instead of another STD. Now we really wait to see if things get as bad as the start of the HIV/AIDS crisis.
 
Dysnomia said:
I have to wonder if there are monkeypox chasers out there just like with AIDS.
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I am 100% sure fags who love to get their "negholes pozzed" want this new "bug" in their collection.
I used to think the flaming faggots are only a minority of the gay community and most of them are just like anyone else, the only difference is, they are attracted to the same sex.
Sadly, I had to realize, I bought the media narrative and in reality, monogamous gay people, who just want to lead normal lives, are the exception not the rule.
 
Halmaz said:
I am 100% sure fags who love to get their "negholes pozzed" want this new "bug" in their collection.
I used to think the flaming faggots are only a minority of the gay community and most of them are just like anyone else, the only difference is, they are attracted to the same sex.
Sadly, I had to realize, I bought the media narrative and in reality, monogamous gay people, who just want to lead normal lives, are the exception not the rule.
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I have never met a monogamous gay man who wasn't just autistic and misunderstanding/sexualizing his close friendship. Hell, I've even run into a couple who just stopped doing gay stuff once the distinction was pointed out to them.
 
Rosy Reptile said:
I have never met a monogamous gay man who wasn't just autistic and misunderstanding/sexualizing his close friendship. Hell, I've even run into a couple who just stopped doing gay stuff once the distinction was pointed out to them.
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Given that the male biological drive favors multiple partners, with no female counterbalance, that isn't a surprising outcome. I'm not entirely sure how monogamous my gay friends are. The one couple I most suspect of monogamy, one of them still took the monkey pox shot. However, he's also a vax maxxer and could just be collecting good boy points (he said he was afraid of getting monkey pox from visiting his other gay friends at the bar.)

Now, the other ones I know who are in long term relationships, that could just be the major pairing, but they do talk about having vacation dick and boyfriend dick, so I imagine they don't view straying as any big deal.
 
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How monkeypox spoiled gay men's plans for an invincible summer

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Can't wait for governments to use my money to erect monuments memorializing this tragic times in LGBT history
 
NJBear said:
I though anyone could get it? What happened?
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It's the strangest thing, anyone can get monkeypox. For heretofore unexplained reasons the only people actually getting it are people fucking dudes that butt fuck other dudes.
 
Tanner Glass said:
How could it be an "invincible" summer if AIDS (and everything else) still exists?
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Because half of them already have AIDS and the other half take copious amounts of PReP every day. Gays don't care about AIDS anymore and don't want you to care either, that's why they decriminalized spreading it in California.
 
Looks like all Aids skrillexs and Carl the cucks will dislike that article about monkeypox.

Why are Children Coming down with Monkeypox?​

By Mark A. Hewitt


Are recent reports of a same-sex Georgia couple charged with aggravated child molestation and sexual exploitation in any way related to reports of children coming down with monkeypox?
How do children get monkeypox when monkeypox is fueled by sex between men? As monkeypox cases (6,000 or more to date) continue to grow across the country, there should be no confusion whether or not the rapidly spreading virus is a sexually transmitted disease.
When children come down with monkeypox and monkeypox spreads through sexual contact, where are the police reports? The report of an obvious criminal assault and evidence of sex with minors demonstrate that someone within Georgia’s law enforcement structure was on the ball. But shouldn’t children with monkeypox be sufficient compelling evidence for a law enforcement investigation?
Monkeypox sores anywhere on a child are a clear indication that sex with minors has occurred -- but it is being effectively censored. Are they making evidence of children with monkeypox go away, “like it never even happened?”
While some people who have gotten infected with monkeypox are sharing photos on social media, as they say, “to help spread awareness about the symptoms, show what the rash can actually look like and educate others about the disease,” you will not see children with monkeypox sores. You see, if you wait long enough, the monkeypox sores heal and the media can sanitize the sexual assault on a child.”
Colombo and Monk and Sam Spade could figure this one out. But not the New York Times, or the Washington Post, or the alphabet networks. When there are reports of children with monkeypox, the media choose not to investigate.
However, The New Yorker knows, but now that there is a monkeypox epidemic with gay men in the equation, they are embarrassed of their previous reportage. Last year in their exposé, “The German Experiment That Placed Foster Children with Pedophiles,” The New Yorker profiled “a government experiment” that placed neglected children in foster homes run by pedophiles. These children, according to the article, appeared to be in a “homosexual relationship” with their foster fathers.
Now, how could something like that happen?
Funny how pedophilia, a sexual disorder profiled in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual for Mental Disorders (DSM), hasn’t received the same sexual activist treatment and remains between the covers of the DSM. For decades, members of the American Psychiatric Association (APA) were terrorized by sexual activists who claimed they were being “unfairly stigmatized” for simply being in the pages of the DSM. The APA eventually capitulated and changed the language in the DSM that the sexual activists considered “offensive,” and ultimately removed the words homosexuals, transvestites, and transgenders from the DSM while the sexual disorder pedophilia remained.
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FFinfo said:
That might be some selection bias; the sort of gay people to go to pride parades are definitely a "type" that'll also be the hyper-promiscuous sort. I've known a few different gay/trans-straight (so gay) people for a while and some of them have been in exclusive monogamous relationships for as long as I've known them. I think it's probably some sort of inverted bell curve where you have super-promiscuous freaks on one end, super promiscuous gigachads on the other, and "homo typicalis" in the middle with pretty few partners.
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Just as a statistics FYI, an inverse bell curve is known as a bimodal curve.

Also, their idea to use 1/5 of one vaccine shot, rather than a series of 2 full strength shots, is completely retarded on several levels. First, the vaccine is already not very good. The neutralizing antibody response after the second shot is barely 2 times the initial response from the first shot. In most vaccines that would be considered a failure. Compare this to the COVID vaccine where the neutralizing antibody response after the second vaccination was 30 to 50 times the response to the first shot. That is considered a robust response.

Second, the trialing of the vaccine is essentially incomplete. The approval was based on a combination of animal and limited human data. Unlike the COVID vaccine there were no tests for something known as ADE (Antigen Dependent Enhancement), this is where the immune system gets primed by a vaccine against a certain strain, and then when the real virus invades, and it is substantially different from the vaccine, the immune system responds with an ineffective attack against it, trying to use the data it gathered by attacking the poorly matching vaccine. When this happens the illness is actually amplified because the immune system is distracted doing useless crap and not effectively combating the virus. People will actually get much more ill because they got the vaccination than if they had never been vaccinated. In this specific situation the vaccination will put people at a disadvantage.

Third, using what amounts to 1/10 of the correct dosage for a feeble vaccine could make it essentially ineffective. The immune response will be too weak to be useful. In this situation people will think they are protected and they aren't. It's well known that when people think they are protected from something they are more likely to engage in risk-taking behavior they otherwise might not have if they didn't believe they were protected from a potential illness. So, using an ineffective dose of the vaccine could actually cause the situation to get worse as the number of infections actually increases due to people participating in risky behavior that they otherwise might not have if they didn't believe they were protected.

Fourth, if the vaccine provides ineffective and incomplete protection against the virus it could act as a minor selective pressure on the evolution of the virus and push it in a certain direction that would make the vaccination even less effective and possibly increase the virulence of the viral strain (depending on the genetics of mutations regarding the relative distance from one another, or if one mutation provides both advantages, among other factors, etc...) A strain that is more vaccine resistant and potentially more virulent has an evolutionary advantage so it would quickly replace its ancestor strain. This would lead to a situation where the vaccine is even less effective and the virus could potentially be even more dangerous than what we started with.

TL;DR: Watering down a vaccine that isn't all the great to start with could potentially be a very bad idea for several reasons.
 
Manul Otocolobus said:
ADE (Antigen Dependent Enhancement), this is where the immune system gets primed by a vaccine against a certain strain, and then when the real virus invades, and it is substantially different from the vaccine, the immune system responds with an ineffective attack against it, trying to use the data it gathered by attacking the poorly matching vaccine. When this happens the illness is actually amplified because the immune system is distracted doing useless crap and not effectively combating the virus.
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This is correct, and I agree with major parts of your post, but I'm not sure it's a reason to avoid getting MVA-BN/Imvanex/Jynneos on an individual level, even with the 1/5th dose intradermal method. I actually looked at the literature for dose sparing methods and it's not something they just make up, it's in the Vaccines book. Boosting of Jynneos with ACAM2000 was tested in humans and appeared to work well, though the inoculation of ACAM2000 would have to be vigorous to get a good take after the immunity to vaccinia generated by Jynneos. This is not a COVID-19 vaccine with a few protein antigens at best, both Jynneos and ACAM2000 have over 200, so I actually think ACAM2000 alone would probably not work if Jynneos followed by ACAM2000 ended up not working. I'm not a pox virologist though, so I suppose it's possible that only a few proteins actually matter for ADE, but that thing is going to be covered by so many binding antibodies I can't picture it working like that in my head. The Monkeypox virus is big, lots of space for antibodies, even not so good ones, to stick on. It's not COVID-19/SARS-CoV-2 (a much smaller RNA virus), like you said. Anyway, I don't want to clog up the articles thread too much, so here is an update on Monkeypox's status as an STI/STD. https://promedmail.org/promed-post/?id=8705540 https://archive.ph/Uu9ST
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[3] Monkeypox as an STI
Date: Fri 9 Sep 2022
Source: CIDRAP (Center for Infectious Disease and Policy) [edited]


Commentary: No question monkeypox is an STI
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Whether or not monkeypox (MPX) should be labeled a sexually transmitted infection (STI) isn't much of a debate among STI experts.

So far, more than 95% of cases in the United States have been acquired during sexual contact among men who have sex with men (MSM). To not call it an STI is nearly equivalent to saying syphilis isn't an STI because exceptions to sexual transmission are common in some settings.

Pragmatically, MSM should be advised that certain sexual practices and lifestyles put them at very high risk of MPX. As well as its opposite: That modified sexual exposures can be nearly 100% protective.

Today [9 Sep 2022], the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) published a report documenting an intimate association between MPX and other STIs in MSM in the United States. The CDC has long advised screening patients who have newly diagnosed STIs for other STIs, and it recommends STI screening all persons evaluated for MPX, implicitly recognizing MPX as an STI.

Recently reported cases of MPX in persons other than MSM is similar to the course of HIV transmission in the early years of HIV/AIDS in industrialized countries. But the dominant sexual transmission of HIV among MSM, and its characterization as an STI in them, remains valid.

Precedents with other infections
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That an infection is an STI in some settings but not others has precedents. Among MSM, most enteric infections (e.g., Salmonella, Campylobacter, hepatitis A) are properly considered STIs, even though sexual transmission is uncommon in the population as a whole.

Chancroid, one of the 5 classical venereal diseases, is now known to be a common non-sexually transmitted skin infection in tropical climates, best documented in Papua New Guinea and other South Pacific islands. That doesn't imply that chancroid should not be considered an STI in most populations and geographic areas.

A valid approach is to ask what the epidemiology of a condition would be if sex were not involved. Some cases of tuberculosis, influenza, Zika, and Ebola are transmitted between sex partners and undoubtedly during sexual contact. But if sex didn't exist, there would be little if any change in overall incidence or prevalence, and we don't label them as STIs.

The exact opposite is true of syphilis, gonorrhea, and chlamydia -- generally sexually transmitted but with well-documented exceptions. For MPX and enteric infections in MSM, eliminating sexual contact would markedly reduce -- and perhaps eliminate -- transmission in that population.

Accuracy while limiting stigma
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Part of the problem, of course, is that characterizing an infection as sexually transmitted automatically makes it stigmatizing. It's a social issue without easy or quick resolution, stemming from the problems most societies have with sex and sexuality in general.

Avoiding the truth doesn't help, but of course context, tact, and understanding are requirements in limiting stigmatizing interpretations. For example, in some circumstances it may be useful to characterize an infection as sexually transmissible rather than sexually transmitted, with the former term implying flexibility, including nonsexual transmission mechanisms.

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Vecr said:
This is correct, and I agree with major parts of your post, but I'm not sure it's a reason to avoid getting MVA-BN/Imvanex/Jynneos on an individual level, even with the 1/5th dose intradermal method. I actually looked at the literature for dose sparing methods and it's not something they just make up, it's in the Vaccines book. Boosting of Jynneos with ACAM2000 was tested in humans and appeared to work well, though the inoculation of ACAM2000 would have to be vigorous to get a good take after the immunity to vaccinia generated by Jynneos. This is not a COVID-19 vaccine with a few protein antigens at best, both Jynneos and ACAM2000 have over 200, so I actually think ACAM2000 alone would probably not work if Jynneos followed by ACAM2000 ended up not working. I'm not a pox virologist though, so I suppose it's possible that only a few proteins actually matter for ADE, but that thing is going to be covered by so many binding antibodies I can't picture it working like that in my head. The Monkeypox virus is big, lots of space for antibodies, even not so good ones, to stick on. It's not COVID-19/SARS-CoV-2 (a much smaller RNA virus), like you said. Anyway, I don't want to clog up the articles thread too much, so here is an update on Monkeypox's status as an STI/STD. https://promedmail.org/promed-post/?id=8705540 https://archive.ph/Uu9ST
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That's true. The monkeypox virus is far more complex, by a long shot, than the simpler viruses such as SARS-CoV2 or Dengue. I'm not a virologist either, so I don't know which or how many proteins is common it takes before ADE is a risk. I don't think we are fortunate enough to have a virologist/immunologist here on KF to comment on this, unfortunately.

As far as this outbreak of MPX being treated as an STD/STI situation, I completely agree. Chancroid is an excellent example for this. The medical community has to be willing to call a spade a spade regardless of how it may be perceived politically.
 
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Manul Otocolobus said:
As far as this outbreak of MPX being treated as an STD/STI situation, I completely agree. Chancroid is an excellent example for this. The medical community has to be willing to call a spade a spade regardless of how it may be perceived politically.
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It's pretty weird that back in 2020, when the coof hysteria was taking off, there were calls not to tag the chinks but the local news had no problem telling us that the first recorded cases in the country were Chinese nationals.

Then, last month, the news was hiding the gender of the people that got hit by the monkey pox. I WONDER WHY?
 
Halmaz said:
I am 100% sure fags who love to get their "negholes pozzed" want this new "bug" in their collection.
I used to think the flaming faggots are only a minority of the gay community and most of them are just like anyone else, the only difference is, they are attracted to the same sex.
Sadly, I had to realize, I bought the media narrative and in reality, monogamous gay people, who just want to lead normal lives, are the exception not the rule.
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I'll be real, you're right and I think that the brainwashing is real.
The normal gays I know have all grown up without shit like modern TV, or western websites like Tumblr or YouTube, or really much media or talking about gay shit. These guys tend to either be immigrants, old and married, or their parents were old school and didn't approve of screens all the time.
What we have now, it's exactly like a cult. You do what they say, and they pretend to love you. They want you to cut yourself off from your actual family because the cult knows better, all that stuff.
 
Manul Otocolobus said:
I don't think we are fortunate enough to have a virologist/immunologist here on KF to comment on this, unfortunately.
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Yeah, I did an online virology course and that's it. No immunology at all really. People who specialize on orthopoxviruses since smallpox was eradicated are rare as well, especially compared to the well funded HIV and influenza.
 
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