Culture Modernism is Sadism

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We’ve probably all used or heard the word sadism or sadist at least once within our lifetime. In the field of psychonalaysis, sadism is defined as follows:
n. the derivation of pleasure through cruelty and inflicting pain, humiliation, and other forms of suffering on individuals
But this word has roots that actually trace back to a particular French degenerate and, through him, to modernity as a whole.

Marquis de Sade: Prototypical French Degenerate​

Britannica, under the definition of sadism, mentions:
sadism, psychosexual disorder in which sexual urges are gratified by the infliction of pain on another person. The term was coined by the late 19th-century German psychologist Richard von Krafft-Ebing in reference to the Marquis de Sade, an 18th-century French nobleman who chronicled his own such practices.
Marquis de Sade (1740-1814) was one of the most disturbing personalities in European intellectual history, already saturated with numerous very bizarre individualities.

Sade was a self-proclaimed philosopher, and his authorship spanned different genres. However, he is known primarily for his libertine—some would say pornographic—novels, which involve sexual cruelties, including child rape. And, thus, the very idea of “sadism” is named after him.

Of course, Sade’s degeneracy and sadism was not restricted only to his fictional writings. He would personally partake in such activities, rendering him the subject of great controversy among Western academics:
Two centuries after his death, Sade (1740-1814) remains a figure of controversy. On the one hand, his name is associated with the French Revolution and the storming of the Bastille, on the other, with rape, sexual terror and torture. During his lifetime, Sade was found guilty of sodomy, rape, torturing the 36-year-old beggar woman Rose Keller, imprisoning six children in his chateau at Lacoste, and poisoning five prostitutes with the aphrodisiac “Spanish fly”.
He managed to avoid the death sentence but still spent 32 years in prisons and insane asylums, partly due to the intervention of family members who kept him locked up to avoid disgrace.
Some of his most famous novels are Justine and The 120 Days of Sodom.

Justine involves all kinds of depraved sexual degeneracy with a young girl, perpetrated also by even the Catholic clergy (Sade was, of course, very anti-Christianity).

The 120 Days of Sodom, on the other hand, which is an unfinished novel, is about décadent aristocrats seeking the maximum sexual gratification possible (and let’s save ourselves the nausea by not going into the details as to what exactly this entailed).

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You’d think that such an author would be hated and forgotten, but that’s not the case—quite the contrary in fact. He was actually one of the most influential figures for 20th-century French intellectuals, most notably of whom is probably Georges Bataille (1897-1962), someone not too well-known in the Anglosphere, but within French intellectual circles, he is often considered to be the spiritual father figure of French Theory and postmodernism.

Worse yet, the French government has officially declared The 120 Days of Sodom to be a “national treasure.”

It must also be noted that Pier Paolo Pasolini—one of the most influential Italian filmmakers and an LGBT activist that was likely murdered by a former lover—also adapted loosely The 120 Days of Sodom into a more modern context, that of WWII, in his 1975 movie, Salò.

But why is the ultimate sadist such a prized figure within European intellectual history, to the extent that he is being openly honored in literature, cinema and even by national governments?
The answer?

It’s because he’s the natural conclusion of the Enlightenment project.

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Liberal-Secular Morality Is Sadism​

Pierre Klossowski (1905-2001) was the first to establish a direct link between the thought of Sade and the liberal-secular morality of the Enlightenment.

Klossowski was initially, in the early 20th century, a painter who was close to the Surrealists, the first modernist French art movement. It was only later that he delved into other fields, such as fiction and philosophy, which is when he ended up befriending the very same George Bataille that we had mentioned earlier.

In 1947, Klossowski released a book titled Sade, Mon Prochain, which can roughly be translated into English as “Sade, My Kin.”

As the title suggests, this book is quite important historically. This was his attempt at rehabilitating Sade and depicting him as some sort of respectable philosopher. Prior to the publication of this book, Sade had but a handful of admirers among the so-called intellectual class. The general public, however, viewed him as a criminal pornographer.

One of Klossowski’s arguments is that Sade merely takes the Enlightenment project to its natural conclusion:
According to liberal-secular morality; and within a society where “pleasure” is the foremost component of one’s very existence, where exactly is the problem in experimenting with sexual activities as much as you possibly can, perhaps even being innovative in the process of doing so?

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As Klossowski obviously wrote in French, let us instead quote from Rictor Norton, an American author and LGBT activist, who says more or less the same.
He writes:
Sade exemplifies some of the major features of the Enlightenment project: in fact his philosophy represents the logical conclusion of much Enlightenment thought. For example, he demonstrates that morals are historically and culturally contingent, that is, they are merely mores or customs and traditions of specific societies in specific times and places. One custom or morality is no more valid than another. He employs the evidence and techniques of comparative anthropology in precisely the same way as less audacious figures from the 1760s onwards, to demonstrate that there are no universal customs and hence no universal morality or religion. There is, of course, no God, only scientifically discoverable mechanistic principles or chemical interactions that determine all actions and feelings, a view shared by many unitarians and deists.
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Though blasphemy does not occur among animal nature, it is nevertheless a justifiable technique used by libertines to reestablish a Natural order rather than the Christian order. Blasphemy and sadomasochism are very much tied together in Sade’s world, and I think that the transparent way he uses blasphemy helps us see how he similarly uses sadomasochism as a political tool, a means to an end rather than an end in itself. It is a tool of Enlightenment and self-realization.
Sade is, in actuality, the physical manifestation of the “Enlightenment ideals.”

We can thus quite confidently conclude that the Enlightenment’s conceptual child, that is, liberal-secular morality, is necessarily and undeniably sadist.
 
:story: I always wondered why British people hate the French so much. I assumed at first it was a grudge about wars long ago or some sort of cheeky joke but now I understand.
Yes, but also yes.
 
My understanding was that DeSade used gross pornography to disguise his critiques of the aristocracy and French society. He knew that its lurid nature would encourage its spread while discouraging any deeper analysis or acknowledgment of the ideas in the writing by the upper crust.
 
My understanding was that DeSade used gross pornography to disguise his critiques of the aristocracy and French society. He knew that its lurid nature would encourage its spread while discouraging any deeper analysis or acknowledgment of the ideas in the writing by the upper crust.
That may well be so. At the same time a lot of people don’t see it that way they just like it and the French are very much into this school of thought. You can draw a direct line from safe to Foucault and from Foucault to the modernist/WEF thinkers
So in that level the article has a point. Modernism is sadism, I think. Brutalist architecture removes the human scale from buildings. Modernist art the same. The biblical view of ecology is as a creation that we must nurture and use appropriately. Modernist ecological thought sees us not as a part of a system that needs to be preserved and protected and cherished but as a plague to be controlled and removed. 15 minute cities and the whole WEF playbook want to reduce us to serfs. Covid responses were as much humiliation ritual as anything.
The guy has a point.
The English/French thing has deep roots, we’ve been trying to take northern France back as rightful English clay for a while
 
My understanding was that DeSade used gross pornography to disguise his critiques of the aristocracy and French society. He knew that its lurid nature would encourage its spread while discouraging any deeper analysis or acknowledgment of the ideas in the writing by the upper crust.
He was just a mentally ill pervert. He probably was molested by someone in the aristocracy seeing as he was aristocracy and let's be honest, mosy aristocrats are fucked in the head ome way or the other. But I don't know how sodomizing men amd women alike, getting into groos orgies, raping women and children is any sort of critique on society. Dude was just a lvl 100 coomer.
 
That may well be so. At the same time a lot of people don’t see it that way they just like it and the French are very much into this school of thought. You can draw a direct line from safe to Foucault and from Foucault to the modernist/WEF thinkers
So in that level the article has a point. Modernism is sadism, I think. Brutalist architecture removes the human scale from buildings. Modernist art the same. The biblical view of ecology is as a creation that we must nurture and use appropriately. Modernist ecological thought sees us not as a part of a system that needs to be preserved and protected and cherished but as a plague to be controlled and removed. 15 minute cities and the whole WEF playbook want to reduce us to serfs. Covid responses were as much humiliation ritual as anything.
The guy has a point.
The English/French thing has deep roots, we’ve been trying to take northern France back as rightful English clay for a while
We have spent over 400 of the last 1000 years at war with the French, including the Hundred Years War, which actually lasted 116 years because I guess everyone lost count.

Despite this, evidence mounts daily that we still haven't killed enough of them.
 
We have spent over 400 of the last 1000 years at war with the French, including the Hundred Years War, which actually lasted 116 years because I guess everyone lost count.

Despite this, evidence mounts daily that we still haven't killed enough of them.
It’s funny isn’t it? I have no reason to have any personal beef with the French. I work with French people who I like and respect greatly. Ive been there on holiday many a time. I speak a little of the lingo, enough to get by on hols.
And yet deep in the very fibre of my being are banners being waved, arrows being notched, and sarcastic accents just ready to be deployed. It’s like some kind of deep cellular grudge.
 
But I don't know how sodomizing men amd women alike, getting into groos orgies, raping women and children is any sort of critique on society. Dude was just a lvl 100 coomer.
Back when he was only a lvl 95 coomer some of his books had long digressions on political topics. Like he'd have his characters say "Nice degenerate orgy we just had, why don't we take a break and read this political treatise out loud?" Or he'd have one of his many, many rapist characters explain at length why his actions are not only permissible but commendable under an atheist, materialist worldview (i.e. Sade's own).
 
Back when he was only a lvl 95 coomer some of his books had long digressions on political topics. Like he'd have his characters say "Nice degenerate orgy we just had, why don't we take a break and read this political treatise out loud?" Or he'd have one of his many, many rapist characters explain at length why his actions are not only permissible but commendable under an atheist, materialist worldview (i.e. Sade's own).
Until Napoleon another guy as short as him locked him up
 
I feel like this article is making a pretty bold claim off of the works of like two or three people. The age of Enlightenment last at least a hundred years, spanned most of the European continent and featured dozens upon dozens of varying politcal and philosophical authors with a variety of conflicting ideas. This claim:
We can thus quite confidently conclude that the Enlightenment’s conceptual child, that is, liberal-secular morality, is necessarily and undeniably sadist.
Is pretty far fetched when your evidence is Marquis de Sade, Pierre Klossowski who you can't even bother to translate so you quote some other dude named Rictor Norton. Two of those authors aren't even enlightenment thinkers with Rictor being an unimportant faggot and Pierre working mostly in translating a varity of different philosophers works into french.

This article is really saying that because one french dude wrote shitty fucked up smut and some other french dude and an American tried to rationalize it that the entire basis of secular morality is intrinsically tied to the concept of sadism.
 
It’s funny isn’t it? I have no reason to have any personal beef with the French. I work with French people who I like and respect greatly. Ive been there on holiday many a time. I speak a little of the lingo, enough to get by on hols.
And yet deep in the very fibre of my being are banners being waved, arrows being notched, and sarcastic accents just ready to be deployed. It’s like some kind of deep cellular grudge.
I agree. I actually admire the French for their total disrespect for authority and contempt for their government. When they talk about liberté, egalité et fraternité they fucking mean it, and if it comes under threat they will set fire to things until the problem goes away.

But I wish they didn't have to be so fucking French about it.
 
Back when he was only a lvl 95 coomer some of his books had long digressions on political topics. Like he'd have his characters say "Nice degenerate orgy we just had, why don't we take a break and read this political treatise out loud?" Or he'd have one of his many, many rapist characters explain at length why his actions are not only permissible but commendable under an atheist, materialist worldview (i.e. Sade's own).
Wait, so we can blame de Sade for Ayn Rand as well?
 
It’s funny isn’t it? I have no reason to have any personal beef with the French. I work with French people who I like and respect greatly. Ive been there on holiday many a time. I speak a little of the lingo, enough to get by on hols.
And yet deep in the very fibre of my being are banners being waved, arrows being notched, and sarcastic accents just ready to be deployed. It’s like some kind of deep cellular grudge.
Is this maybe how the Scottish feel about about us all the time? Because if so the SNP make a lot more sense.
 
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