Modern Web Woes - I'm mad at the internet

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The new meta is to use this rotting digital infrastructure strictly as a utility to organize offline. You have to step up and be "the guy" Stop worrying about whether putting yourself out there is "cringe" and just start hosting shit. Board game nights, local BBQs, hiking groups, garage gyms, whatever wholesome random stuff you can think of. People are secretly starving for genuine, unmonetized human interaction that isn't filtered through a rectangle or a glownigger algorithm.
 
SleeplessEcho said:
I've seen that as well and it sends chills down my spine.

This thing, for instance. 750k views. Look at the "channel's" video listings, they're all the same, all released 3-4 days apart.

It doesn't say so explicitly, but I'm 99% sure this is AI generated slop. With that in mind look at the comment section for that video, it's disgusting.
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Yeah it's totally AI slop, if you check to timestamps for all the video every song name is unique, there are some channels who actually make their own music but repeat a lot of their songs across playlists. No real artist has like 70 songs that are all the same. As for the comments these channels delete anything that mention AI and just respond to all the positive comments. I shouldn't have to say this but that's because they're all jeets who can't even defend themselves properly with their insulting mockery of English. Sometimes I comment various things like "AI slop", "Dude you've made so many songs, I don't think it's AI so how do you make so many songs?" to kind of guilt trip them in a way, and they always delete these comments without fail.

Unfortunately I am getting increasingly suspicious of every channel now, even if I don't think it's AI there's always a chance that I am wrong. For example this channel shows a lot of hallmarks of AI, all the same style, lots of videos with long length, weird playlist names. I am not good at determining whether a song is AI just by listening to an atmospheric piece but I also suspect this channel is genuine:

- Has an actual commission page
- Playlists often repeat songs so it's not like every 1 hour video is entirely new
- Bothers to say the music is copyrighted
- Says "No AI" (I know, not very convincing but more often that not more genuine channels do this than fake ones)
- Posts to community
- Bandcamp, Instagram
- Releases "albums" and "singles"
- Recently made an actual guitar recording with video (I am so sad to say I even doubt what's shown as IRL footage in current year)

If a channel had just one of these things it would be meaningless but all at once makes me really unsure, what does everyone else think?


And in order to share love for real music/playlist channels I will list my favorites:

- Nobody (makes playlists, makes real music and even oil paints)
- Vapor Memory (yeah I know vaporware but a huge amount of other genres are posted like the legendary shoegaze indie rock band Sadness)
- Cryo Chamber (what real dark ambience is, this is a huge collection of artists releasing entire albums all the time so there's a lot of content all of it original, the guy who runs it even makes all the art in blender)
- mentaldisorders (from what I know all the music is unoriginal but this person has the most vast taste for all types of music and all of it is really good and often obscure, also a lot of Japanese and Russian songs which is really nice)
- Odd Behavior (all of his songs loop to pad the length but it is genuine content)

Pretty much all of these creators share the exact same opinion as me about AI: "Not interested, get that shit out of here. I want to show the best human music has to offer"

I think it'd be cool for us to share genuine music content on YouTube especially since all I do is complain about AI here but the Internet still has a lot of fantastic stuff
 
blackshirt said:
People are secretly starving for genuine, unmonetized human interaction that isn't filtered through a rectangle or a glownigger algorithm.
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that is rich, coming from you :story:

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Kiwifarmsname said:
Will it get better?
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There is no hope and if we look at the example of all past civilizations, the Internet will collapse and AI will vanquish the hope of any and all post-collapse renaissances from happening.

Humanity already lost the info war by 2016.
SleeplessEcho said:
It doesn't say so explicitly, but I'm 99% sure this is AI generated slop. With that in mind look at the comment section for that video, it's disgusting.
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The worst thing? This is 99% of the Internet's content post October 2022. I swear that it is now impossible to find anything that is not at least half AI assisted past that date. The first 30 search results on a search engine is now 90% post-2022 AI content farms and the others established mainstream fronts.

Most actual music composers, and non-gaming content have all but quit and it is straight-up impossible to become a musician, commentator or website host without being questioned.
 
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ToroidalBoat said:
I don't think so. There has been an overall trend of decay since this (so far disturbing) new millennium began. Opened with a Y2K scare and 9/11 and has been downhill since.
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Possibly, once the Internet falls due to WWIII, energy collapse due to green bullshit inanity, AI rebellion, incompetence, or all four at once, the survivors of the new world might make a passable Internet once more, in a few decades.
Or we'll go with the CP 20xx and Shadowrun route and make an even worse internet that's super-isolated.
 
Do Not Touch Me Pls said:
The worst thing? This is 99% of the Internet's content post October 2022. I swear that it is now impossible to find anything that is not at least half AI assisted past that date. The first 30 search results on a search engine is now 90% post-2022 AI content farms and the others established mainstream fronts.
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I don't think this is that bad. I think it's just a new thing that will eventually lead into all content being assumed fake unless algorithmically proven it is real (i.e. something akin to this, without the C2PA's issues - I think this has already been discussed in the farms, potentially this thread).

It's a change in human psychology (seeing with one's own eyes used to be the rule, after all), but nothing that won't be overcome in 1-2 generations. I'm sure kids growing up now already inherently understand this concept. What you feel is potentially large groups of the population, your age or older, falling for it. It's the same as someone's grandparents believing what they see on TV because the good man on TV said so.
 
ToroidalBoat said:
Are you talking about that cult of "social justice" infiltrating academia, business, politics, the news media..?
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It's about UN and EU Globalists.

mango_reseller said:
I don't think this is that bad.
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It's based on personal experience with search engines out of Brave search and maybe start page. It seems like if I try to find anything on those engines right now chances the only things they can scoop up are established fronts like Wikipedia or Encyclopedia Britannica or they are some site that has been made in 2022 or later with a near absolute chance that it is an AI content farm.

It's the same thing with YT where unless it is gaming content, anything made from up to 3 or 4 years ago and on first 30 results is almost assuredly AI.
 
Do Not Touch Me Pls said:
It's based on personal experience with search engines out of Brave search and maybe start page. It seems like if I try to find anything on those engines right now chances the only things they can scoop up are established fronts like Wikipedia or Encyclopedia Britannica or they are some site that has been made in 2022 or later with a near absolute chance that it is an AI content farm.

It's the same thing with YT where unless it is gaming content, anything made from up to 3 or 4 years ago and on first 30 results is almost assuredly AI.
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Those websites will just show you what people with your habits (which tends to, again, be generally bound to age range) view. This is especially true for Youtube that almost certainly age-groups you. I don't know what you're failing to find from search engines, but you should consider that:
1) A lot of websites suck at making themselves discoverable. Not everything is kiwifarms-tier blacklisted (and tbh kiwifarms shows up more often than not when I search specific things nowadays. I know Null likes to complain about it but it's nowhere near as bad as it was)
2) Search engines try to show you what people look for. This is either long-established sources, or AI content slop that can churn out content about flavor-of-the-week faster than you can effortpost about it.

Just in general, a lot more popular content is going to be slop because the average Internet user is much sloppier, I still don't think this means much.

Edit: I wrote this as part of the post but it got eaten up by the xenforo gods. I think one of the most important values of modern journalism is that it gives you access to people with actual ideas that you may be interested in following. Yes, obviously, most journos are biased. Yes, obviously, most of the people they promote have a certain bent, right or left. But still, it's probably still the best way to get access to people that don't just "react" to current thing but have a world-theory that can be interesting to read about.
A bit off-topic for here, but I feel like right wing orgs are actually severely lacking in this aspect, most of right-wing news content seems to be reacting to things and, even worse, reacting to slop. The only publications that are right-leaning and reasonably serious about advertising new points of view are very heavily financial and substantially less so cultural (i.e. WSJ)
 
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Zeftax said:
Another update, this time they added a "split view", which shows two tabs besides each other.
And here I was, thinking window management was the operating systems job.
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...or was it the window manager's job?
...or was it the terminal multiplexer's job?

Honestly, this is a toss-up. It really depends on how white you are and what kind of workflow you have.
 
Zeftax said:
And here I was, thinking window management was the operating systems job.
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Generally agree but in this case I'm pretty sure it's a single process, hence lower memory overhead. Browsers definitely do way too much though, and I for one will be switching to the new stripped down Brave without any of the AI and crypto bloat (read: attack surface). I already have tools to do those if I wish.
 
mango_reseller said:
Generally agree but in this case I'm pretty sure it's a single process, hence lower memory overhead. Browsers definitely do way too much though, and I for one will be switching to the new stripped down Brave without any of the AI and crypto bloat (read: attack surface). I already have tools to do those if I wish.
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This is why I use Arkenfox as Firefox has many forks that are very good. I have nothing against the Brave browser itself per se, just that I am paranoid about using any browser that shares code with Chrome with all of the shady shit Google does like the whole Manifest V3 situation. It is not Brave itself I am worried about but that Google is going to ram through something that will affect Chrome and all Chrome-based browsers along with it.
 
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