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Hop on the Talbott hype train before it leaves the station (you’ll thank me later). That dude has some real skills, feels like he could be a special fighter if he continues to improve defensive grappling.
 
Pampered Degenerate said:
You had it right the first time.

I really wonder who or what's behind the pushing of wmma. Is it because it's a useful shield against leftists? ESG money? Because who the fuck actually watches it?
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I just don’t think the genie can be put back in the bottle after Ronda. Dumped too much promotional resources in, so doubling back would both be admitting defeat and a PR nightmare.
 
Pampered Degenerate said:
But the women aren't even hot. Most of them are Brazilian or Mexican butch dyke cavewomen (e.g. Andrade, Suarez), and the rest are androgynous at best (e.g. Namajunas, Shevchenko).
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literally, the best looking wmma fighters are all terrible, i can only think of Dern and Cortez who both suck. To be a sucessful WMMA fighter you need at least 1 of 2 things

1 Be Brazillian

2 Be Lesbian

Nunes was both, and maybe a man
 
Pampered Degenerate said:
You had it right the first time.

I really wonder who or what's behind the pushing of wmma. Is it because it's a useful shield against leftists? ESG money? Because who the fuck actually watches it?
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It's a shield against even shittier cards imo. They just want bodies to fill up matches.

According to ChatGPT, the UFC is not public, but their parent company, Endeavor is. This means that the idea that it's for ESG is possible, but I think it's hard to say one way or the other.

Lefty faggots love to call people casuals for not appreciating WMMA in-between crying about guys like Sean Strickland, so it may be that some higher ups are paying too much attention to Twitter or YouTube or they're just that way themselves.
 
Chop Top said:
It's a shield against even shittier cards imo. They just want bodies to fill up matches.

According to ChatGPT, the UFC is not public, but their parent company, Endeavor is. This means that the idea that it's for ESG is possible, but I think it's hard to say one way or the other.

Lefty faggots love to call people casuals for not appreciating WMMA in-between crying about guys like Sean Strickland, so it may be that some higher ups are paying too much attention to Twitter or YouTube or they're just that way themselves.
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Minor correction, but UFC's parent company is not Endeavor, it's now TKO (merger between UFC and WWE).

It's also worth noting that the UFC started doing WMMA fights at least a couple of years before Endeavour bought them, back when they were privately owned by the Fertitta's, and of course UFC weren't even the first to do mainstream WMMA with Strikeforce having done it for several years before that.

As for why they push it so hard now I think you're 100% right about the fact they just need enough warm bodies to pad out the cards. Under the current ESPN deal they have to do 30 Fight Nights a year, at 12 bouts per card + the UFC on ESPN cards+ PPVs.

According to the UFC's own stats for 2023 there were 520 bouts, across 43 events, with WMMA making up just under 20% of the total.

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Learned about this last week, and completely forgot, but not seen anyone else talking about it. A promotion named Hardcore FC has decided to basically rip off the corpse of The Ultimate Fighter, for some reason. However that isn't enough for them as they decided the best people to coach this already shit concept are Tyron Woodley and Luke Rockhold of all people. Just why?
 
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Pampered Degenerate said:
I really wonder who or what's behind the pushing of wmma. Is it because it's a useful shield against leftists? ESG money? Because who the fuck actually watches it?
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The UFC's ESPN contract requires a certain number of fights and events per year. And a certain number of championship fights and PPVs and other stipulations. But they never specified that fights had to be in front of a crowd hence the endless Apex events. And all UFC has to do is put the events on even if it means bloating and padding out the roster with literal nobodies on 10K/10K contracts. Or signing every other fighter from the Contender Series even if they are horrible and do not belong.

But the women can pad out the roster with more ranking fighters and more champions to make the promotion seem more legitimate. When really WMMA is nothing really athletic nor spectacular. And their technique is basic and uninspiring. But UFC needs those padded numbers to hit their ESPN deal.
East_Clintwood said:
Minor correction, but UFC's parent company is not Endeavor, it's now TKO (merger between UFC and WWE).
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Endeavor owns 51% of TKO. So nothing has changed. They just merged the business side of UFC and WWE into one company to save money and justify mass layoffs in their front offices. The sports (used loosely with WWE) and rosters and management are entirely separate still.
 
TheHarbinger said:
But they never specified that fights had to be in front of a crowd hence the endless Apex events.
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Exactly and they'd take a loss on gate revenue compared to the costs of a venue with these horribly shite cards if they did them in diff states instead of apex, like they used to with fight nights.

Dana has been bullshitting about gate revenue in every post fight presser for years. The brand doesn't have the pull it used to, they have watered it down and saturated the market so much, nobody cares enough to stream "you fight cheap" bumfights for free.
 
TheHarbinger said:
The UFC's ESPN contract requires a certain number of fights and events per year. And a certain number of championship fights and PPVs and other stipulations. But they never specified that fights had to be in front of a crowd hence the endless Apex events. And all UFC has to do is put the events on even if it means bloating and padding out the roster with literal nobodies on 10K/10K contracts. Or signing every other fighter from the Contender Series even if they are horrible and do not belong.

But the women can pad out the roster with more ranking fighters and more champions to make the promotion seem more legitimate. When really WMMA is nothing really athletic nor spectacular. And their technique is basic and uninspiring. But UFC needs those padded numbers to hit their ESPN deal.
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This makes sense if part of the contract was that the UFC couldn't just put on events with low/unranked (male) fighters, even though that would have made for more entertaining viewing for the audience. While we're complaining about WMMA, one of the things I really hate is how many of them throw strikes seemingly without any intention of hitting their opponent, as if they're just demonstrating techniques. It's not even at the level of a hard sparring session.
 
They're women, they should not be fighting. Men fight to protect women.
The last straw for me was Fallon Fox being a totally deranged tranny freak that signed on to beat the shit out of women and the entire MMA community at the time being forced to defend him doing it, or get banned off of MMA spaces. No criticism of the obvious deranged sicko was allowed. He had to be praised. That's when I checked out.
 
The absolute state of the weigh-ins for the next UFC card. One dude came in 4lbs over (although later cut another 2.5). Cavallo came in 3lbs over (3rd time she's missed weight now), and something I don't ever remember happening, both fighters in a bout, Cornolle and Mullins, missed weight. Curious to see how the punishments play out for that one, do they both get fined 20% to their opponent?
 
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