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[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

Very creepy as well. In one of these open relationships iirc. He's in one of these positions where you can see the potential for him being very good, but then it's wasted on fighting cans. He's a bit like Paddy Pimblett except if he was good, but then instead of pushing him up the rankings they just kept feeding him cans and hyping him up.

You look at him and compare him to someone like Khamzat or Aspinall, yeah, I want to see how this guy does against the top of the division, but instead of doing the big push, they are giving him another pretty favourable matchup imo. Can't even say he's new and developing, he's had 7 fights already in the UFC. Would be funny if Munhoz just kicked his legs off.

Pimblett is another one I dislike, and it's not just because he's the annoying Bong stereotype. He's treated like O'Malley, except he's clearly not good, and this is after he's spent years on the regionals developing, so that's not going anywhere. This fucker is going to plague all the British cards being very annoying and clearly not very good struggling against other not very good fighters. They just cut the two guys he beat.

I think comparing O'Malley to Khamzat or Aspinall is a bit much given the competition level differences. Khamzat is a legit title contender, although not sure he can beat Usman if Usman shows up at his best (if Khamzat vs Burns is any indication). Aspinall is also a possible future champion and has faced legit competition, like Volkov. O'Malley will probably peak around top 10, but I think the top bantamweights would have their way with them. A prime Cejudo would probably put him in a coma. Yan would completely wreck him, too.

Paddy is irritating, too. Guy acts like he's all that, but like you said, has fought trash competition. He also becomes a fat fuck between fights and is probably gonna end up missing weight at some point. But he is Dana's fill in for Conor to get the drunken Irish fan money, so that will probably get swept under the rug.

 

[Netizennameless]

Very creepy as well. In one of these open relationships iirc. He's in one of these positions where you can see the potential for him being very good, but then it's wasted on fighting cans. He's a bit like Paddy Pimblett except if he was good, but then instead of pushing him up the rankings they just kept feeding him cans and hyping him up.

The last time they gave him a legitimate challenge he mentally broke. He's a flashy fighter but as it stands he doesn't have the mental fortitude to be champion or even top 5.

You look at him and compare him to someone like Khamzat or Aspinall, yeah, I want to see how this guy does against the top of the division, but instead of doing the big push, they are giving him another pretty favourable matchup imo.

I have to hand it to Chimaev, Gilbert Burns gave him all he could handle. But he didn't get discouraged and walked away with the win, and a better understanding of deep waters.

Can't even say he's new and developing, he's had 7 fights already in the UFC. Would be funny if Munhoz just kicked his legs off.

Pimblett is another one I dislike, and it's not just because he's the annoying Bong stereotype. He's treated like O'Malley, except he's clearly not good, and this is after he's spent years on the regionals developing, so that's not going anywhere. This fucker is going to plague all the British cards being very annoying and clearly not very good struggling against other not very good fighters. They just cut the two guys he beat.

He looks like a retarded Friar. I just can't take him seriously, and he hasn't beaten anyone significant enough to make me look any harder at him.

 

[Slimy Time]

I think comparing O'Malley to Khamzat or Aspinall is a bit much given the competition level differences. Khamzat is a legit title contender, although not sure he can beat Usman if Usman shows up at his best (if Khamzat vs Burns is any indication). Aspinall is also a possible future champion and has faced legit competition, like Volkov. O'Malley will probably peak around top 10, but I think the top bantamweights would have their way with them. A prime Cejudo would probably put him in a coma. Yan would completely wreck him, too.

Paddy is irritating, too. Guy acts like he's all that, but like you said, has fought trash competition. He also becomes a fat fuck between fights and is probably gonna end up missing weight at some point. But he is Dana's fill in for Conor to get the drunken Irish fan money, so that will probably get swept under the rug.

Yeah, maybe an overshoot, but with how he grew the base you would think they would push him, I guess they kinda did with Chito and a co-main spot in a PPV, but they quickly decided against it after his foot fell off in that one.

The last time they gave him a legitimate challenge he mentally broke. He's a flashy fighter but as it stands he doesn't have the mental fortitude to be champion or even top 5.

Was listening to HH podcast about the recent Font-Vera fight, and they highlighted just how much durability seems to be a factor at bantamweight, with everyone being some form of massive puncher, and without it people just fall off a cliff. Barao went to shit, Garbrandt's chin went and fell off a cliff, Moraes, and now seems like Font is suffering from not having an elite chin that can take big shots and ignore them like others can, where it's also not looking good for him in future matchups.

I say this because I don't think O'Malley's strong point is durability. His foot has fallen off a few times already. He looked visibly unhappy not being able to put Kris Moutinho away early and visibly didn't like being hit the very few times he was (oh yeah, Moutinho is another guy who just got cut, so that aged like shit). If durability is king, especially in bantamweight, then he's not going to do well when he eventually has to fight someone truly elite.

 

[Netizennameless]

Yeah, maybe an overshoot, but with how he grew the base you would think they would push him, I guess they kinda did with Chito and a co-main spot in a PPV, but they quickly decided against it after his foot fell off in that one.

Was listening to HH podcast about the recent Font-Vera fight, and they highlighted just how much durability seems to be a factor at bantamweight, with everyone being some form of massive puncher, and without it people just fall off a cliff.

No one wants to address this, but there is a strong correlation with fighter decline and the USADA testing program. I think in Barao's case, TJ fucked him up so bad he was never the same. Concussed him early, and then Barao took 4 more rounds of head trauma because he was too tough for his own good. Of course, EPO probably helped a lot.

Barao went to shit, Garbrandt's chin went and fell off a cliff, Moraes, and now seems like Font is suffering from not having an elite chin that can take big shots and ignore them like others can, where it's also not looking good for him in future matchups.

Lighter weight fighters rely far more on speed, which is the first physical trait to decline. They aren't like the heavyweights who can remain competitive into their 40's.

I say this because I don't think O'Malley's strong point is durability. His foot has fallen off a few times already. He looked visibly unhappy not being able to put Kris Moutinho away early and visibly didn't like being hit the very few times he was (oh yeah, Moutinho is another guy who just got cut, so that aged like shit). If durability is king, especially in bantamweight, then he's not going to do well when he eventually has to fight someone truly elite.

Part of what makes up "durability" is the ability to ignore insane amounts of injury and pain to continue to deliver damage. O'Malley showed his ceiling in that he wasn't able to overlook those things and remain dangerous. The top 5 are able to.

 

[East_Clintwood]

So one of Oliveiras coaches posted earlier on social media about how he had hit weight. For some reason he still waits til the last few minutes of the weigh ins and comes in at 156, and then 155.5 after the box of shame. I'm sure he'll make it in the extra hour he gets but still, the absolute fucking state.

 

[easy]

anyone watching PFL tonight? the card looks pretty good, it has Kayla Harris, and Ray Cooper III who i'm pretty keen on seeing in action. Showtime Pettis is making his PFL debut, too, and i'm a big fan of him. so yeah i'm thinking it might be kino.
also: charlie wyd

edit: not pettis' pfl debut, i'm just dumb

 

[Looney Troons]

UFC 274 isn’t a good card, imo. I would say that every card up to this point has had me hyped up in some way, but I feel kind of meh about the main card.

Brown vs Williams will probably go to decision in favor of Williams. Fun.

I don’t want to watch another Donald Cerrone fight. Cowboy is one of my favorite fighters and it sucks to see him consistently get beaten in grand fashion. Maybe this will be a competitive fight since they are both dinosaurs, but either way, hoping Cowboy hangs them up after this fight regardless if he wins.

Not sure why OSP is the favorite over Rua. He gasses out within minutes of the first round. I suppose he has an incredible reach advantage. I always felt OSP would be an amazing fighter if he threw more kicks, but since he tires so easily, it would be a huge vulnerability. This will be the beer fight.

I’m torn on the Tony v Michael fight, but I’m not seeing how Tony pulls it off short of being incredibly lucky. Yes, Chandler is on a small skid too, but his fights were very competitive. Tony, on the other hand, has just been marching forward in a Korean Zombie-esque fashion, taking severe damage or nearly having his leg ripped off. As far as wrestling goes, I don’t know. Both have great ground game. Tony hasn’t been able to showcase his wrestling in years, though. Chandler becomes overconfident and will trade in his defense for speed and power. If there is a dude to catch Chandler (like Oliveira did after nearly getting KO’d), it’s Tony. This is the only fight I look forward to on this entire card, and it sucks that it comes down to two of my favorite fighters.

I don’t like Rose at all and hope Carla destroys her. Actually, I just wish Valentina would move down and destroy that entire division, but especially Rose.

Should be an easy submission for Charles over Justin. Harkening back to the Chandler v Oliveira fight where Chandler managed to tag him and just couldn’t finish the job, Justin can and will in the same situation. If Justin becomes too lunch drunk, Charles is going to take his back and it’s going to be a quick night.

I used to be a cuck and lay for each one of these events because I’m not poor, but since the small price hike, I’m only paying for the cards I think are worth the money. Since I am only invested in one, maybe two fights on this card, it’s a big stream/10 for me

 

[easy]

I’m torn on the Tony v Michael fight

i really don't wanna see this fight. it's one of those cases where i don't want either guy to lose, but especially not tony. the justin fight was fucking gutwrenching, and i can easily see mike doing that all over again. tony is my fucking boy; god willing, it will be tony time. but it fucking hurts to see. i think they shouldve given him a tuneup fight, to let him get confident again, to know he's still el cucuy

 

[East_Clintwood]

So i was completely wrong earlier. Extra hour, box of shame and still 155.5. Womp Womp

Gaethje can still win the title since he made weight, but if Chucky wins the fight the title is vacated

anyone watching PFL tonight?

Can't watch tonight, but will probably catch up on some of the fights whenever I get the chance

i think they shouldve given him a tuneup fight, to let him get confident again

knowing Tony it's entirely possible they did offer him the tune up and he refused like the crazy dumbass he is.

 

[easy]

CHARLES WYD. goddamn, i wasn't expecting that. holy shit haha

 

[Looney Troons]

Holy shit, Charles. You had one fucking job. Get on the bike, hit the sauna, and shave your fucking head!

Wow. I can’t stop laughing.

 

[easy]

 

[East_Clintwood]

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Need to remove the belt for complete accuracy

 

[Slimy Time]

So i was completely wrong earlier. Extra hour, box of shame and still 155.5. Womp Womp

Gaethje can still win the title since he made weight, but if Chucky wins the fight the title is vacated



Can't watch tonight, but will probably catch up on some of the fights whenever I get the chance


knowing Tony it's entirely possible they did offer him the tune up and he refused like the crazy dumbass he is.

That's a UFC first. First champ to miss weight. Nicco Montano didn't achieve this by being hospitalised during her weight cut. That's legacy tarnishing.

Would be the funniest thing if Oliveira beat Gaethje with a shit weight cut. I kinda want it to happen because it would be on a level of funny as Yan's illegal knee. They would most likely have to run the fight back for a vacant belt, which would make Khabib/Makhachev stans seethe, also allowing for Dariush to finish recovery and give Islam a proper fight.

CHARLES WYD. goddamn, i wasn't expecting that. holy shit haha

This dude is breaking all the records. Funniest thing was Cormier pretty much admitting he cheated and basically saying they should have gotten the in house commission officer to clear him for 155. Pretty sure that also soft confirms they did it for Khabib against Gaethje (fyi, there was a discussion whether he had made weight when the official called out Khabib's weight before the balance tipped).

 

[Looney Troons]

I feel bad for the dude. The narrative is that the scale in his room read 150 on the dot. I retract my previous statement because I did not watch any footage, but was reading articles. There was nothing left to cut short of slicing off a piece of his body. Dude tacked on muscle mass for this bout and it came to bite him in the ass

 

[easy]

yea i also heard that charles and his team thought he for sure weighed enough for the fight. his look of shock on the scale says a lot. unironically this sucks tho, i fucking love charles, it's a real shame. i thought he might break the record for defenses at LW, my guess is he beats justin anyway, and then i guess fights for the title again?
i'll seethe so hard if islam becomes champ without fighting charlie; i've wanted ot see that fight for a while now.

 

[Slimy Time]

I feel bad for the dude. The narrative is that the scale in his room read 150 on the dot. I retract my previous statement because I did not watch any footage, but was reading articles. There was nothing left to cut short of slicing off a piece of his body. Dude tacked on muscle mass for this bout and it came to bite him in the ass

It's why other champs tend to try and shoot under 155, get a reading of 154 or something like that, just in case the scale is wrong. Gaethje was having a lot of fun with this before it became official.

i'll seethe so hard if islam becomes champ without fighting charlie; i've wanted ot see that fight for a while now.

That would be true to form for Khabib Jr.

 

[Looney Troons]

yea i also heard that charles and his team thought he for sure weighed enough for the fight. his look of shock on the scale says a lot. unironically this sucks tho, i fucking love charles, it's a real shame. i thought he might break the record for defenses at LW, my guess is he beats justin anyway, and then i guess fights for the title again?
i'll seethe so hard if islam becomes champ without fighting charlie; i've wanted ot see that fight for a while now.

Ugh. Same.

I have a strong feeling that Charles is going to take the W, doesn’t matter since title is vacated. Won’t be immediate rematch. Next fight for the LW strap will be Islam and Beneil. I like both of those dudes and I don’t want to see a fight for a vacated title, but here we are.

 

[Slimy Time]

Ugh. Same.

I have a strong feeling that Charles is going to take the W, doesn’t matter since title is vacated. Won’t be immediate rematch. Next fight for the LW strap will be Islam and Beneil. I like both of those dudes and I don’t want to see a fight for a vacated title, but here we are.

Sucks for both guys. Charles' winning doesn't get him the belt, only another fight for the now vacant belt, and for Gaethje, it's bullshit that's hanging over him if he wins as well that kinda delegitimises his win a bit. Really not an ideas situation for both guys.

 

[easy]

Next fight for the LW strap will be Islam and Beneil

i can't take this bros