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A legitimate concern. You obviously don’t know who I talk to, and that’s kind of the point. I think that should address your main concern.
In the past I had someone try and convince me that Sean Frohman isn’t John Macaque and pretended they didn’t know Black Pearls name, even though I later discovered Manuel splashing it across one of their groups, so it seemed reasonable that I stop communicating with that person. Because they were lying to me and using me to get at specific people. I didn’t make a special case of going after any of them.
Also, there was a weird timeframe where people were enthusiastically volunteering information. It soon became apparent that these people had a lot to say about either Manuel or BP, but suddenly knew very little when it came to people in their own camp who they wanted to protect. You can understand why I wouldn’t deal with those people either.
It’s not up to me to decide if someone wants to keep making terrible decisions or not. The individual who I addressed before knows that I know who she is, she is fine with that, apparently. Considering the sheer scale of her involvement, funding and years of dedication to what she does, she might be ready to die on this hill. Maybe do some time and get back into it. Although I’d like to see her say it outright to make it clear. I get the feeling she wants to leave the door ajar, having the option to talk to me without committing to it, just yet.
If I’m wrong, just come out and say it, drop something in shitstorm or tree rat the retard kitchen and tell me to fuck off and that’ll be that. What are you waiting for? I know you read this thread, Frances and think it’s all funny.
Gretchen Buckland: The Deepish Dive 2, Doofy Boogaloo

A grocery store like any other, a brown haired and unassuming man takes a breath, looking into the camera before beginning his song of love and longing. You are my sunshine, my only sunshine…with that a saga was set to unfold. An exodus to discord was underway, with Tori leading one troop and BP the other. One of the casualties of this cross platform shitflinging affair would be Joe Buckland. He had fallen within the sights of an ‘Ace Ventura’, whose enemy troop would come refer to as ‘Anal Ventura’.
Some weeks before or after the mysterious ‘defendant three’ being announced in the Dryden documents, stories began to circulate about Tori leaving Darel for a ‘Jon Doe’. Jon would come be known by telegram as either ‘Texas Jon” or “methadone Jon”, owing to his being a methadone addict from Texas. Darel summoned Jon to collect Tori, making the occasional rare ‘Dean Moxley’ appearance on Telegram. Husband and wife continued to shitfling both on and offline, meanwhile BP was busily doing damage control around Colt Moss and trying to keep his name out of ‘shitstorm’.
When Joe Buckland’s name first reached us, it was amidst all of this chaos. It was a mess of alt accounts and conflicting narratives. BP enjoys ensuring he directs the dominant narrative and they quickly set about protecting Gretchen. Gretchen at this point was a full time cute tech girl. Occasionally flirting with Patrick Bateman and Tony Montana as ‘auntie Gretchen’.
When Ace Ventura declared that Gretchen is a convicted pedophile, BP asked him for clarify, stating there is nothing to connect Gretchen to Joe. They also dismissed his accusations that Joe is a pedophile and stated he has no evidence that Joe was a ‘monkey hater’. He was branded ‘officer doofy’, everyone laughed at him. They laughed when he said Moss was going down, they laughed when he said Gretchen is a pedophile.
It’s not looking so great for them right now. No siree.
The first thing we wanted to establish is if Joe is indeed a monkey hater. That didn’t take long, he was caught interacting with baby monkey shit on Facebook twice over. Case closed. That just left the question of; is the pedophile Joe Buckland also prolific animal torture porn producer Gretchen.
It’s a resounding yes.
But before we get to that. Let’s talk more about Gretchen as Gretchen. Gretchen is a fucking monster. I know they get a kick out of that stuff, hearing people say how evil they are or whatever. But that’s usually whilst they’re anonymous. They’re in their diaper discipline fantasy world, safely compartmentalised from their wife and children. That being said, Gretchen was known to be dangerous, and to pose a threat to people who challenged him.
In his own words:

Real world consequences. Dudes not fucking around.

Slay queen bee.
In all seriousness though, his threats to hurt or interfere with people in real life who share his animal torture porn without permission should not be taken lightly. I believe what these people say. When Gretchen says he hangs out with fifteen year olds, making crush porn in Malaysia, I believe him. When he talks about making plans to stay with families in Borneo on monkey molester trips…I assume he’s not just a fantasist.
On a side note, I want to take a look at BP’s psychology and how he dealt with Colt disappearing.

BP removed and autodeleted any mention of Colts name from his group. It hadn’t been confirmed at this point that he was defendant 3. So BP set about on this flailing and pointless effort to stop people talking about him. But being a mentally ill, autistic sociopath, at no point can he be perceived as being wrong out out of control.
He wasn’t deleting colts name from his groups to try and keep any further damage at arms length and protect himself and his best friend from further humiliation. He was generating butthurt. Having his lawyer friends name being made public was BP’s plan all along. BP could shit himself in public, and with everyone stood around him pointing and laughing, think to himself; “the jokes on them”. And he’d believe it too. And so would his orbiters.

Officer Doofy and Methadone Jon here got a hard time off BP, who busily defensed Gretchen and Colt Moss. But now the dust has settled…man, where is the lie. Neither of them were wrong. I laughed at them too. But damn the prison sentence speaks for itself. BP worked to undermine their credibility whilst Gretchen went about his own elaborate form of damage control which we will delve into now.
I mean, WHY would Joe Buckland disassociate himself from monkey molestation. More to the point, HOW would he? He’s supposed to be dead.


Ok, so let me catch everyone up. This is the BP/Gretchen approved version of events;
Cute tech girl redhead pretended to be a fat pedophile called Joe Buckland. Said cute redhead tech girl knew fat pedophile Joe Buckland personally. When the feds went after Joe following Tori reporting him, Joe sent them to the cute redhead tech girl. This happened despite Joe dying a while back.

“Hey Joe, how’s the afterlife treating you?”
“Oh y’know, just doing some beyond the grave damage control and adjusting my security settings.”
This is the part where they’ll insist there’s no proof that Gretchen is Joe. Nothing to connect the two. The entire thing is a game of 4D chess being played out by one of the biggest geniuses in monkey molestation. Gretchen sat down one day and said; “I’m gonna pretend to be a 5’2 pedophile who I know personally”.
Fuck knows why, but that’s what they’d have us believe.
But still they’ll insist, and that leaves it up to us to establish confirmation that Joe is Gretchen and Gretchen is not a chick. It means finding an outright admission or a fuck up so bad it settles any doubt. Finding this kind of thing is not always going to possible, which leaves us to connect dots and just think what is most probable here. We’re not going to have someone saying straight up that Gretchen is a dude or Gretchen is Joe. They want to ensure Gretchen has plausible deniability at all costs.
Nah, I’m just playing with you, we totally have that shit lol.

Louder for the people at the back.

Alright. That’s settled it for me. Maybe there’s some people who think Gretchen played such a convincing cute tech girl that there’s still doubt though. Hey, veteran monkeyfucker Melinda Voris, been up to anything interesting lately?

Ah. Gretchen…he. Definetly no mistaking Gretchen for a cute tech girl on FaceTime.

Auntie Gretchen unveiled

I cannot evidence it here, but I believe multiple members of the diaper disciple community have erotic roleplayed with this man. Believing he is a cute redhead tech girl. Or choosing to believe it at least.

lmfao. Sure. Ask Romy how he liked prison for me.
So, in the end there’s two possibilities, a girl did a really good job of pretending to be a fat 5’2 pedophile monkey molester who she KNEW IRL, and got multiple people to play along, for reasons unfathomable to us. The fact I cannot comprehend why someone would want to make people think they are Joe Buckland is because it’s a genius big brain move that only Gretchen can understand.
Or it’s like Tony and Melinda said, Gretchen is a dude with prison time under his belt for CSAM. And the ‘community’ protected him and will continue to do so. In this case I’m trusting the people in the know, Tony and Melinda. Gretchen is Joe.
There is no good outcome here. In one case, Joe Buckland and Gretchen were friends in real life, and he’s a pedophile. The other situation, one of their biggest by far content creators is a convicted pedophile, who has likely erotic roleplayed with colt moss and Tony Montana. He bragged about hanging out with fifteen years olds in Southeast Asia thinking he was ‘owning me’ or something. And Officer Doofy was right.
Back to Telegram; for clarify BP.