Military Equipment Sperging Thread - The Tiger II is a better tank than the M1 Abrams edition

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VF-1J Armored Valkyrie said:
The production line for YFQ-44A at Anduril's Arsenal-1 factory in Ohio is now opened and producing an unspecified number of additional prototypes for the Air Force's A2A drone program. Anduril claims the line's max production is ~150 drones a year, with planning for additional buildings if they win the contract over General Atomics or any possible walk-on offerings. Arsenal-1 also currently produces their Barracuda missiles and Roadrunner drones.

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Too bad the Anduril offering is worse than the General Atomics ones. No internal weapons carriage.
 
Falcos_Commisar said:
Anduril didn't even design it, they bought the original company who started the project back in 2019 and Anduril bought them in 2023.
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"Look at our fancy factory, pay no attention to the third-hand subpar drone design behind the curtain."

I really like the ultra-streamlined-production, high-concept-low-cost sides of Anduril, not this weapons-by-Embracer-Group shit.
 
VF-1J Armored Valkyrie said:
"Look at our fancy factory, pay no attention to the third-hand subpar drone design behind the curtain."

I really like the ultra-streamlined-production, high-concept-low-cost sides of Anduril, not this weapons-by-Embracer-Group shit.
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If the goal is to fly 10,000 of them into Chinese air defenses in the 2030s, seems like production efficiency would be way more important than an internal weapons bay.
 
Buttigieg2020 said:
If the goal is to fly 10,000 of them into Chinese air defenses in the 2030s, seems like production efficiency would be way more important than an internal weapons bay.
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Certainly not wrong, and the plan is for a more expensive and feature-heavy Increment 2 anyways, so does it really matter in the end? I suppose we'll find out. Another angle to it is that China is currently behaving towards their radar and stealth aircraft eggheads as these regimes do when they see that their technology vastly underperforms compared to what they believed it could do; the people responsible for designing it are being rounded up and disposed of. If CCA increment 1 is supposed to be the attrition-based system that makes the enemy waste their missiles and fuel before ever getting the chance to detect a manned aircraft, maybe it's just obectively better for the role if they are more visible.
 
VF-1J Armored Valkyrie said:
"Look at our fancy factory, pay no attention to the third-hand subpar drone design behind the curtain."

I really like the ultra-streamlined-production, high-concept-low-cost sides of Anduril, not this weapons-by-Embracer-Group shit.
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Holy shit this made me lol 😆

Now for Counter UAS stuff, the US Army seems to be going insane with proximity fuses (as they should)


This plus micro missiles plus APKWS (lase and it guided) plus guns plus shotguns should take care of the little drones well enough.

Oh and of course EW, lasers and even MASERS
 
Buckle up I'm gonna SPERG

Anti drone capabilities: micro missiles, AI guided guns and other cool stuff






 
Land forces sperging (plus drones)

The US Army is replacing 4 Abrams 120mm shells with one new one in the M1147 AMP


Oh and Germany is testing a very suspiciously shaped drone firing little counter drone missiles

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The US Army is continuing on with the silly 50mm autocanon for the notional Bradley replacement instead of the proven and in service 30mm or even the 35mm used by some Europeans.

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The 50mm is a necked up 35mm so you get a lot more HE filler in the HE shells and probably a bit more velocity in the APFSDS buuuttt you're not getting more than 210 rounds carried vs hundreds of 30mm rounds

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  • The CV9035 has a total of 70 rounds available at the gun, consisting of two belts a 35 rounds.
  • The CV9030 has a total of 160 rounds available at the Bushmaster II gun
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And " On CV9030 there's 5 boxes of 80 rounds each. CV9035 has 4 boxes of 35 rounds each. 400 vs 210 rounds. The 30mm is the sweet spot in my opinion.

35mm doesn't even have currently APDSFS ammo but that's because it's both new and the 35mm SAPHEI is good enough against BMP's."






The Norks have a APS system that looks a lot like a Chinese ones

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Falcos_Commisar said:
Kiwibros I regret to inform you the Swiss are being their usual money grubbing selves


Tl;Dr they ordered Patriots but they're delayed due to other global events.... They're now asshurt and are talking about cancelling the newer and possibly other US arms sales.... Because they're retarded.
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The Swiss prefer delivery on time, in budget, and without issues. At least they have options in case a solution isn't worked out.
 
Falcos_Commisar said:
Their options are been slower EuroSAM deliveirie and obsolete Euro Jets
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Ditching PAC-3 also means springing for multiple missile systems to replace all the capability Patriot brings. Buying CAMM or IRIS-T instead would be a serious hit to ABM performance, going for SAMP/T would mean giving up the low-end performance and magazine depth of PAC-2 and PAC-3 CRI.

Switzerland is a joke of a country and their military realistically doesn't serve any purpose compared to their whorish politics, so they can probably get away with buying a less capable Euro or Korean system just to keep up their appearances. The Polish are buying six batteries so that people like the Swiss can keep doing whatever.
 
Falcos_Commisar said:
Kiwibros I regret to inform you the Swiss are being their usual money grubbing selves


Tl;Dr they ordered Patriots but they're delayed due to other global events.... They're now asshurt and are talking about cancelling the newer and possibly other US arms sales.... Because they're retarded.
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I can't really blame the Swiss for being pissed here. However given the current demand for Patriots from just about everyone it's kind of a seller's market and cancelling the order probably makes sense for both sides. Switzerland can go to one of the Euros or possibly the Koreans and get a SAM they so clearly desperately need right now, and the US can bump up their own, or one of the Gulf state's resupply.
 
East_Clintwood said:
I can't really blame the Swiss for being pissed here. However given the current demand for Patriots from just about everyone it's kind of a seller's market and cancelling the order probably makes sense for both sides. Switzerland can go to one of the Euros or possibly the Koreans and get a SAM they so clearly desperately need right now, and the US can bump up their own, or one of the Gulf state's resupply.
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The Koreans and Euros do not exactly have excess capacity
 
Falcos_Commisar said:
The Koreans and Euros do not exactly have excess capacity
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It's ultimately immaterial when your real security policy hinges on maintaining a bare minimum deterrence within an extremely unfriendly geographical environment as a stick while offering to play both sides of any potential conflict as a carrot.
 
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