Militant Vegans - MEAT IS MURDER, YOU BLOODMOUTHS

[DungeonMaster]

We actually have a thread on one of those vegan bodybuilders. His username is VeganGains, and he's pretty skinny for a bodybuilder.

His head's the shape of a lightbulb, but despite that he isn't so bright. His arms and legs are so disproportionate if you took his pants down there would be a long frankenstein seam along his waist.

 

[Syikeblade]

In EVERY FUCKING solarpunk thread on tg, this asshole has to spread his misanthropic bullshit like shit on toast.
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Why do vegans have a hatred for carnivorous animals, especially cats?

 

[Trombonista]

Why do vegans have a hatred for carnivorous animals, especially cats?

Because they don't feel guilt about eating meat.

 

[Adamska]

Why do vegans have a hatred for carnivorous animals, especially cats?

Because they like all carnivores shit all over the narrative that man is bad for eating animals, and cats are just the most popular animal that we keep that is an obligate carnivore.

 

[Tito from Rocket Power]

In EVERY FUCKING solarpunk thread on tg, this asshole has to spread his misanthropic bullshit like shit on toast.
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If you hate humans so much, why don't you off yourself? ffs

 

[NoGamersAllowed]

Vegfag getting angry at #NationalLobsterDay and proceed to explain why we should ban boiling lobsters

 

[Adamska]

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You know what also screams in agony? Grass when you mow the lawn. Or pot when you process the plant. Existence is literal suffering.

Though I will not lie I want a lobster thermidor after this little post. I like animals, but I also like eating them after all.

 

[NoGamersAllowed]

You know what also screams in agony? Grass when you mow the lawn. Or pot when you process the plant. Existence is literal suffering.

Though I will not lie I want a lobster thermidor after this little post. I like animals, but I also like eating them after all.

Nigga will never get to experience the amazing taste of fresh lobster. In fact, I'm actually heading out to get some expensive ass lobster rolls.

 

[Krystal]

>Boiling lobsters alive
I'm no chef and correct me if I'm wrong, but that's not how you cook one. You kill it the most humane way through the head and slice forward first. Then boil it when it stops moving.

 

[AnOminous]

Nigga will never get to experience the amazing taste of fresh lobster. In fact, I'm actually heading out to get some expensive ass lobster rolls.

You know what lobsters like eating? Each other. Also they have no goddamn brains. Probably they feel whatever level of pain it's possible an insect feels, but the joy I have eating their delicious sea bug flesh dipped in butter vastly outweighs their brief, dim discomfort.

I'm no chef and correct me if I'm wrong, but that's not how you cook one. You kill it the most humane way through the head and slice forward first. Then boil it when it stops moving.

That's what autists do and that's how it's legally mandated on Cuck Island, but Americans just chuck them in. Stabbing them in the head doesn't do shit because they don't have brains, as such. So you're just adding another painful step to their death. That shit is stupid.

 

[PlumSyrup]

I really don't want to powerlevel too hard in this thread, but I came in here awhile ago as a vegan, and I guess it seemed kind of fitting to talk more about my experience with the vegan community since, if that's okay, and how my veganism ended.

Spoiler: blah blah powerlevel

I initially went from vegetarianism to veganism figuring I would see if it worked for me, and found the vegan community to be much weirder and very openly eating disordered. Vegetarians mostly just, share recipes or talk about their local restaurants that have a great menu with lots of options or something. Vegans I encountered mostly just talked about things like circumcisions and vaccines, or would post meals of some carrots and raisins and talk about how much "healthier" they felt.

Well, since, I have been diagnosed with thyroid issues unrelated to my diet. I don't really want to focus too much on the medical problems in detail, but I do want to talk about what I encountered with vegans I talked to along the way. The first thing my doctor did was tell me that I needed to start consuming dairy or fish to get more iodine into my diet. Okay, no problem. I tried to see if anyone else had to make this change for advice.

I really had no support in this, and was just outright told to ignore my doctor. The main suggestion I got was to add seaweed to all my meals, which might be doable often, but I'm definitely not going to bust out a sheet of seaweed at a work lunch and eat it, or make sure to pack seaweed sheets for trips when I travel--it's pretty clear being exclusively vegan isn't an option for me anymore. (I was also told to cook with iodized salt, but I do already do that). And honestly, I'm just going to trust my doctor to understand this better than I do to begin with. I didn't think about my thyroid, nor iodine, until my diagnosis, so I'm not going to pretend I'm suddenly an expert just because I did like two google searches on it. I'm assuming there was a reason my doctor suggested dairy/fish and not iodine supplements, knowing I was vegan, so again, I'm just going to accept that here.

I think the last part of that paragraph was kind of preaching to the choir, but, I really want to underscore how absurd it is for a stranger who has almost no knowledge of my medical history to just tell me to ignore my doctor entirely.

Well, I don't want to share screenshots because I don't want to doxx myself. But I was told that I'm sexist and genocidal, and supporting rape by listening to to my doctor. I've seen people accuse non-vegans of all being sexist because dairy cows are female, but it was really kind of surreal to have this turned on me. It was also really weird to me how many people simply told me to not listen to my doctor as though that were an entirely normal thing to do. Doctors aren't part of some weird big meat conspiracy, and up until now, mine have always been really nice and just made sure to talk to me about briefly about plant sources protein and iron before sending me on my way.

So, I guess that was the end of my foray into veganism.

It's funny to me, that KF has this reputation as this horrible nazi troll hacker board or whatever, but when I mentioned veganism here, you guys were really nice about it. You let me know potential concerns medically, talked about animal products that minimize environment/ethical impact should I need that knowledge, and wished me well. The vegan community, however, will excommunicate you if you do something like put honey in your tea, or listen to your doctor. It's just funny to me that you guys were much more supportive and scientifically literate about the entire thing. I know everyone here already knows that our reputation is not accurate, but I think this is a very striking example.

Okay sorry about the powerlevel essay, feel free to hit me with the ratings, but I thought it was overall relevant to this thread because of my earlier posts. If we discuss this I'd rather discuss the response I got than my own medical issues

 

[Clockwork_PurBle]

I think one of the main reasons why the vegan community at large is like this is because veganism is a lifestyle generally founded upon thinking you have a moral high ground, while vegetarianism is largely just a simple diet choice. 99% of people who go completely vegan for non-health reasons (going vegan to lose weight for surgery for example) do so because "muh animals" and "muh environment." Their choice came from the heart; they want to help animals and the environment, but it pretty much always devolves into radicalization to the point where you get called sexist for eating dairy. They don't understand that pretty much everyone wants to look out for the animals and environment to some degree; they think eating meat but wanting factory farming reform at the same time is impossible. Again, it's a lifestyle: they all have to take a plethora of (usually expensive) vitamin supplements just to survive. They aren't just simply choosing not to eat fish. Conversely, there are varying kinds of vegetarians who have all chosen to go that route for different reasons. For example, I am mostly vegetarian myself, really just because I don't find a lot of meat or fish to be that good. I don't think there's anything wrong with meat consumption, hunting, fishing, or whatever. I actually support hunting. It's just a taste preference.

Anyway, I saw a post recently from a vegan animal rights person on social media implying that horses are choked when we ride them. Absolutely hilarious. I've yet to find a self-proclaimed animal rights vegan activist who knows anything about animals beyond dogs and cats.

 

[Ginger Piglet]

who knows anything about animals beyond dogs and cats.

Then you encounter some vegan who forces their cat (an obligate carnivore, as in, requires meat as part of its diet) to be vegan. Which is cat abuse, frankly.

 

[keyboredsm4shthe2nd]

In EVERY FUCKING solarpunk thread on tg, this asshole has to spread his misanthropic bullshit like shit on toast.
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>bitches about misanthropy and parts of the natural order of things
>still exists and breathing on the earth

if you really fucking cared about animals you'd neck yourself.

I think one of the main reasons why the vegan community at large is like this is because veganism is a lifestyle generally founded upon thinking you have a moral high ground, while vegetarianism is largely just a simple diet choice. 99% of people who go completely vegan for non-health reasons (going vegan to lose weight for surgery for example) do so because "muh animals" and "muh environment." Their choice came from the heart; they want to help animals and the environment, but it pretty much always devolves into radicalization to the point where you get called sexist for eating dairy. They don't understand that pretty much everyone wants to look out for the animals and environment to some degree; they think eating meat but wanting factory farming reform at the same time is impossible. Again, it's a lifestyle: they all have to take a plethora of (usually expensive) vitamin supplements just to survive. They aren't just simply choosing not to eat fish. Conversely, there are varying kinds of vegetarians who have all chosen to go that route for different reasons. For example, I am mostly vegetarian myself, really just because I don't find a lot of meat or fish to be that good. I don't think there's anything wrong with meat consumption, hunting, fishing, or whatever. I actually support hunting. It's just a taste preference.

Anyway, I saw a post recently from a vegan animal rights person on social media implying that horses are choked when we ride them. Absolutely hilarious. I've yet to find a self-proclaimed animal rights vegan activist who knows anything about animals beyond dogs and cats.

If horses are choking when you're riding them, it's a sign you need to drop 400lbs. She was probably a fatty.

 

[Scribbler]

If horses are choking when you're riding them, it's a sign you need to drop 400lbs. She was probably a fatty.

Either that or they have no clue how a bridle works.

 

[keyboredsm4shthe2nd]

Either that or they have no clue how a bridle works.

cultist vegans have no clue how anything about animals works.

 

[Phil Ken Sebben]

>Boiling lobsters alive
I'm no chef and correct me if I'm wrong, but that's not how you cook one. You kill it the most humane way through the head and slice forward first. Then boil it when it stops moving.

There's two schools of thought on that one. First is that you're assuming a lobster has a brain. it does but it's really simple as a lobster is practically nothing more than a sea insect. But they have two spinal cords with ganglia at each bit connecting the two halves. In short they're not only wired in parallel but they've got a kind of distributed brains. Meaning that little mass in their heads is maybe half of their actual brain. The rest is distributed along the spinal cords. So bisecting the head might not actually kill it so much as just prevent it from moving. So you might just be adding pain on top of pain. The boiling alive bit yeah, it can be nasty but it's over fast.

This is why in the UK it's necessary to use a stunner to kill them before throwing them in water. It's like a suitcase. You stick the lobster in, close the lid and it delivers a lethal charge to immediately kill it.

Then you encounter some vegan who forces their cat (an obligate carnivore, as in, requires meat as part of its diet) to be vegan. Which is cat abuse, frankly.

Same for those assholes that feed their dog vegan meals. Dogs are better equipped to handle some veggies but they also require meat. I'm sorry if that fact offends some vegans out there but you're not in control of what an animal eats. If it requires meat then guess what? You feed it meat. Case closed.

And to any militant vegan out there that claims humans are "born" vegans they're lying their asses off. Yes you can live without meat, dairy and any animal product out there but it requires education in nutrition. You can't just stop eating meat, move onto soy, beans and whatever else and stay healthy. We need certain vitamins and substances that are only found naturally in meat. Vitamin B12 is the big one. Vitamin E, which is available in vegan versions, is actually less effective than the one you get from meat. There are others out there. But honestly if you're not into meat, at least go vegetarian. Dairy, eggs and the occasional bit of salmon never hurt anybody and they will provide you with the protein and vitamins you need. And they're fucking delicious.

 

[keyboredsm4shthe2nd]

>Boiling lobsters alive
I'm no chef and correct me if I'm wrong, but that's not how you cook one. You kill it the most humane way through the head and slice forward first. Then boil it when it stops moving.

I thought lobsters were boiled alive because their meat spoils ridiculously fast, but I'm also not a chef. One thing I do know for certain is that in levels of pain crustaceans are like three steps above a plant and vegans just love equating every animal's perception of pain with a human's because they're actually sociopaths.

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The best argument I have that would leave them stammering is "if you need to supplement your diet with vitamins (barring pregnancy), you're eating a shit diet."

 

[Ginger Piglet]

I thought lobsters were boiled alive because their meat spoils ridiculously fast, but I'm also not a chef. One thing I do know for certain is that in levels of pain crustaceans are like three steps above a plant and vegans just love equating every animal's perception of pain with a human's because they're actually sociopaths.

The best argument I have that would leave them stammering is "if you need to supplement your diet with vitamins (barring pregnancy), you're eating a shit diet."

Probably the former. Fish goes off quickly, and shellfish goes off quicker still. Moreover, the sort of microbes that feed on rotten shellfish are absolutely evil. They will give you the sort of food poisoning that at best results in both projectile vomiting and uncontrollable diarrhoea, and at worst a hospital admission and death.

 

[Krystal]

I thought lobsters were boiled alive because their meat spoils ridiculously fast, but I'm also not a chef. One thing I do know for certain is that in levels of pain crustaceans are like three steps above a plant and vegans just love equating every animal's perception of pain with a human's because they're actually sociopaths.

The best argument I have that would leave them stammering is "if you need to supplement your diet with vitamins (barring pregnancy), you're eating a shit diet."

It turns out I was talking a bit more on how it's done in UK rather than in general. I just said since mainly more professional chefs advise going for certain parts and use certain methods to be humane as possible.